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But i'd like to see Seju with them again with her new love interest, to show that she has moved on and happy without sumin in her life.

True but to me it would still feel like maybe Seju might try to make Sumin jealous by showing a new love interest...and create a new cycle again, over and over.

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This whole alleged bdsm thing reminds me of Pulse now.
And I used to think that it was Pulse who took ideas from wdtfs

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Why is it that i dont find anything special in the ending.

#bitter

Because there isn't :P
Also there is no plot twist either...the only time I was shocked was when Nami actually was in love with Sumin instead of Seju.

Also it seems like Seju is not in her company, while Sumin and Sungji are.
Could it be that Seju doesn't own it anymore, so they won't even been seeing her there

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Well objectively speaking the new girl is not bad looking at all. In fact I find her more attractive than Sumin.
My problem is that she appears at the very end with no development with Seju whatsoever.
It is really out of place to develop Seju's feelings for Sumin right until the very end, only to put a random new character for her.
If they wanted to go like that, at least they should have made Seju getting over Sumin way earlier and not keep her until the end only to force more chapters for the story.

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I also heard about the new girl that Seju and her will have a bdsm relationship.
Like ok, as if this is what we needed the most for the characters now...
Even though I knew the ending would be anti climatic, I'm still disappointed...

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Lol I agree that Nami x Seju is bad. I always strongly disliked Nami. She gives me this asshole cringey vibe.

Last chapter will probably be more with TeamBlonde fluff and maybe some sex scene, and then showing Seju in her house and giving some clues-hints for her future.

Well I'm still holding back as to whether there'll be an actual plot twist at this point, but we still can't know until the very end(although it won't be a Sumin x Seju ending)

But the biggest plot twist in this chapter was that there still are straight women in the wdtfs universe :P

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My guess is this. They got carried away with Seju and they maybe didn't plan on making her character so important from the beginning. They have said before that the story was originally about Sumin and Sungji, and they added Seju later.
I have written some stories myself, and Seju gives me the impression that she was created by the author "feeling" her, not planning her. You know, those types of characters that represent a piece of the author's feelings, rather than solely being planned for the story. Writing stories is about expressing feelings too, and some characters carry this from the author.
One of the TG ( I think the author) said that Seju was their favorite character. So yeah. But this is just my guess and I could be wrong of course.

Thank you very much Macy-san:')) I'm miserable about the ending and you just have blown up my feeling a bit. I feel better now, by the way, your saying is great that I think I will quote it for good. Thanks again!

Hehe glad it helped a bit. Have a good day :)

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I'm just looking forward for more Seju..but I guess they won't give her..lol or are they maybe planning a sequel for her? Damn..they could have just done it with Sungji..lol oh gad..my bitterness is surfacing..I need to bury these feelings..xD

I'm not sure if they will give us more of seju. They put our hopes up and what we get is this. Lol
I just don't understand why they put so much of sejusxumin wonderful and meaningful flashbacks when they could have focus more on Sungji. I understand that it is To justify sumin having hard time to part with seju but it's still way too leading. ~sigh~ again

My guess is this. They got carried away with Seju and they maybe didn't plan on making her character so important from the beginning. They have said before that the story was originally about Sumin and Sungji, and they added Seju later.
I have written some stories myself, and Seju gives me the impression that she was created by the author "feeling" her, not planning her. You know, those types of characters that represent a piece of the author's feelings, rather than solely being planned for the story. Writing stories is about expressing feelings too, and some characters carry this from the author.
One of the TG ( I think the author) said that Seju was their favorite character. So yeah. But this is just my guess and I could be wrong of course.

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It's like their relationship is just all about sex..lol I want to say that it's shallow but I might just be biased coz I really love SuminxSeju lol so just whatever..xD

It feels a bit forced because teamblonde is the popular ship. If author likes them so much, they should definitely have thought of a better development for them.

Sumin x Sungji development is easy and cliche. All throughout the story they break up and make up with having sex. And that's about it.

I don't know, I always preferred SuminxSeju too, but Sumin's character has turned me off a lot after the second arc. She acts like a high schooler that is in infatuation and gets excited because she is about to have sex for the first time. Seju is better than that.
I knew they had no chances, but I was hoping we would get a decent development between teamblonde. I know TG has the ability to create nice characters and development, but I guess they are aiming to please their target audience, which is mostly young teenagers. Not that there is something wrong with that, it's just that from my experience, YA targeted stories tend to have more superficial and one sided characters.

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If you notice, a lot of "Team Pink" do not think it will end that way. They are just hoping.

I think it will end Seju and Sumin based on elements of the story. Foxy lady has made it clear she believes the same. Nora is obvious. XD

But do you think TG has the guts to go against the popular pairing which is TeamBlonde?
Watch out for some of them, they can get really crazy...lol.

I personally feel that they themselves like Seju and Sumin dynamic more (that's why their development feels better) but they always planned on ending it with Sumin x Sungji.

MacySan
Pulse discussion 31 Aug 03:28
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^Maybe Mel was on her period? :o gross joke ik, that's why I spoiled :P

Not surprised by shock drama here though lol.

MacySan
Pulse discussion 30 Aug 17:20
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Sue will never earn my sympathy. She was created as a psycho right from the beginning, she played with Lynn's life, broke Mel by forcing Lynn to break up with her and then raped her... Nope, making me like her will never happen.

Pretty sure there is no turning back for her no matter what lol. I'm just thinking it would be bad characterization to try and make her sympathetic now. Like pretty inconsistent.

Also I always felt like Sue was inspired a bit by Seju from wdtfs...
They are very different, but she just gives me this vibe, also regarding her relationship with Mel.

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I don't find Sungji leaving Sumin too sudden or that her feelings were weak.
She was trying to forget about the cheating and fix her trust for Sumin. She was hiding her insecurities about that situation, and Sumin didn't help th situation at all either.
That pillow was the last drop for her. Going back together with Sumin will not feel forced imo. Considering Sungji's character, she might give Sumin another chance. Or maybe she left to short her feelings out and will realize she still wants to be with Sumin.

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Last chapter will also include a TeamBlonde sex scene to wrap things up imo lol.

MacySan
Pulse discussion 29 Aug 08:49
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MacySan,
I agree w/ your idea on just Sue being in the hospital, she can make Mel remember what they had in the past, the hand accident, and win her back that kind of way. That seems to be more interesting imo. But then we have Mel already loves Lynn so much, Sue doing that wouldn't be enough

Well of course, but that's because the author chose to give Mel this direction. Mel was sleeping around and didn't dare to date seriously for a long time because of what happened to her with Sue.
So she could easily be developed differently after Sue coming, and not go with the "I don't care about it anymore" route. I mean developing her differently before that incident you are referring to had happened.

Just saw the cover of chapter 60. Sue now is drawn looking sad? I hope RS doesn't try to make her sympathetic again though. It will be a very abrupt 180 degrees attempt to turn. You can't make someone a rapist and then try to make them redeemed after one chapter.

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From a character development point of view, if Sumin doesn't end up with Sungji, then that makes Sungji's character very secondary.
Seju has the best development in the story, and her character can stand on its own without the romance ending.
Sungji on the other hand loses a good deal of her role, since she was developed more around Sumin rather than her own self and journey.

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In fact, I feel Sumin is now acting like when Seju was left alone. Which makes me wonder if we are going to go in circles... and if she loves Sungji why the hell hasn't she gone and look for her to tell her she is free from Seju. Nothing makes sense to me..

Well Sungji didn't leave only because Seju was physically around. She was still emotionally scarred from Sumin's cheating and provably feared that Sumin might leave her again. Her trust in Sumin was lost after the cheating, and Seju being around was reaffirming her insecurities.
But i agree that this story has gone a bit too much around the break up-make up cycles unnecessarily to some extend.

Dispite the fact that Sumin and Sungji will make up again in the end, i think that Seju will still be on Sumin's life to some degree, as friends.
Because Gaji have made her so intertwined with Sumin, that I really don't see her being completely out of Sumin's life. But on the flipside, she won't be Sumin's puppy either.

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And I hate this ending. Though I've been expecting this clean break between Seju and Sumin; their interactions are still much more meaningful that any panels of Sungji and Sumin. The entire freaking story has made no sense...

sigh I feel exactly like this too. I am very well aware of the Sumin x Sungji ending. But seeing the way Seju let Sumin go...is just too emotional. I wish I could feel the same for Sungji but unfortunately I'm not moved by their(temporary) break up. They always gave me that married couple chemistry, but the type of married that actually are still in love with each other, after all these years.
Sungji and Sumin feels more like an infatuation, although I know it is not.

All I can say is, Seju best girl.

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MacySan
Pulse discussion 26 Aug 05:52
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I find the writing kinda bad in here. Lynn immediately believing Sue and then breaking up with Mel in such a harsh way. It just feels inconsistent and forced drama.

Lynn is young and naive, that's my only explanation to it.

Well there is always some type of explanation for a development, but having it doesn't make the plot any better. It is not consistent with Lynn's character. She may be young and naive, but she acted pretty cruel for her character nonetheless. It just feels like the author was trying to make it seem sad and make the readers moved, emotionally shocked and more invested in the drama. But it had the opposite effect.

She was desperate and she had no idea what Sue was doing all this time. She wanted to talk but Sue had something different in mind. Mel would never do that if she knew what Sue did in the first place, I'm sure of it.

She didn't seem surprised at all when Sue told her to undress though. To me it definitely seemed like she knew what Sue would ask from her.
Also another thing I have for Mel is that apparently all women want her, which to me is a Mary Sue-ish characteristic. I mean, Sue to go so far as to rape her, mess with the heart transplant lists etc after all these years. And all of this really out of the sudden, without even showing up or bothering her during this period at all.

It would be better development imo if Sue was being more of passive aggressive towards Mel instead of blatantly being the classic psychopath. I think RS should use more of the subtle drama and character development instead of these big crazy ones.
Like Sue being around in the hospital and giving Mel flashbacks of their past with sadness and anxiety. Sue didn't have to be crazy to influence Mel, she could just do that with her presence.
The art is amazing, but there needs work to be done on the characters. Sex in every chapter seems like an attempt to make the story more spicy and interesting, but after a point it is like eating so much candy that makes you sick.

MacySan
Pulse discussion 25 Aug 17:58
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I find the writing kinda bad in here. Lynn immediately believing Sue and then breaking up with Mel in such a harsh way. It just feels inconsistent and forced drama.
Also Mel accepting to get raped instead of just think of a better plan to get Sue out. Like record admitting she changed the lists ir whatever.
This story needs less sex and more non cliche plots.

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Never knew people could be this damn hilarious..my gad I can't..loool I always like to go to that side for these comments..xD

Ahh I wish I could find this funny. This is why we can't have good developed stories. Because a good portion of the audience sees things as black and white and likes one dimensional characters because they are the protagonist and they are the "good guy".

On the other hand regarding this chapter, I'm really skeptical and in disbelief. I just think they make Sungji break up with Sumin only to keep people on the edge until the end. I bet they're gonna end up together in the end anyway lol.

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But that's the problem. We have too many familiar stories like this so we often stereotype our own perspective, like this happened so the next thing is definitely like this because it has been and should've been always like that xDDDDD

I know we have so many other stories like this, but what if you believe Sumin x Seju could happen only because you want to see something different for once? lol
I mean to me it sounds more like a wishful thinking rather than reality.

However, if you think of it as another view, as forgiving-and-love-again, or fate, there are alot of signs for Seju and Sumin to be the end xDD.

Yes it would be a good ending. And bittersweet. But the thing here again is, we are talking about what would feel nice to some people, not based on what the plot actually points to. And I'm pretty sure some TeamBlonde fans would even disagree with this point anyway.
They could easily say the moral of the story is to learn how to let go of the toxic past etc, so a Sumin x Sungji ending would be better and make more sense.

Anyway this chapter was nice but I just want this to be over soon lol. It has been making me feel angsty for 1.5 years now. I feel sad for both Seju and Sungji lol

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If anyone here still genuinely believes Sumin will go back to Seju, I want to ask why? How?
Just because they have better chemistry doesn't mean this. All of the signs right from the beginning have been pointing to teamblonde ending. And honestly, Sungji's character doesn't have much development outside Sumin, so if this happens it feels like her character was slightly pointless.

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7- I have no idea why Sumin said that she wishes this would be the last snow that they would be together in.. or why she refused to go see the place with Seju.. argh. I am out of ideas about this one.

If that's accurate, that seems like a pretty clear sign that Sumin is finally moving on from Seju.

It's pretty obvious she means she doesn't want to spend another year together with Seju. It is clear she is staying with Sungji, come on...

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I think that Seju is happy because all this time her asshole brothers were bugging and threatening her because of the heritage.
Now that she got nothing, she knows they will stop coming after her.
The last part with Sumin and her saying I wish this is the last snow I see with you, is sad.

I guess we'll see Seju living in her mom's house and Sumin together with Sungji. I don't think Seju will die (Gaji said so before too).
Sumin and Sungji relationship is plain. I know Seju has done wrong to them, but her scenes with Sumin always gave me the feels, unlike Sumin x Sungji.