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Melon
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joined Mar 22, 2013

I like all the different art styles :3
I'm also noticing that there is a lot more artwork to Citrus on deviantart. A positive side effect to the anime release I guess^^

Melon
Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

Thanks for the answer. To me it seems as if all the scenes were from just one movie, because it is always the same characters. They have motorbikes, so it is probably not a classic movie (?). Horror yes, probably, thanks for the name! the repeating scenes imply that it is a fanmade video, I guess. Or it is use as an art choice.

The relationship between the two girls is pretty explicit, so it should be mentioned somewhere, is what I though. Because actually I can look into a list of 500 lebian movies and I didn't find anything usefull till now. But they kissed and had sex, so it is not just a minor subtext thing.

Thanks for the other Youtube stuff, too. I'm not really looking for edgy stuff :D I'm more of the fluffy type (well, dark, but fluffy). I just liked the chemistry between the girls, so I'm going to keep on searching.^^

Think there might be a misunderstanding here: I am more than 99.99% certain that the scenes are made with actresses specifically for the music video. While the scenes may be referencing old movies, they did not use material from existing movies, merely taking inspiration in terms of setting and framing.

No, um, sorry to correct you, but I definitly found it: It's on IMDB

(And in terms of explicitness, there are other music videos that go way further -- not everything is made in the USA with the corresponding "do not make it too sexy" limitations. While not necessarily on the yuri side, for example some of Mylène Farmer's videos would make many an American censorship authority lose their cool. Advantages of a career in France.)

Yeah, i meant more that it is not only subtext. Like in two girls wink at each other and people are like: OMG I totally see the attraction. In older movies it could get like that a lot because you couldn't show lesbians in movies. Here however you can't argue about the nature of the relationship. That's what I meant by explicit.
Well, nowadays there's a lot of stuff which is more sexy. Actually i hardly ever watch american movies, when I'm looking for lesbian fluff. So I wasn't even aware that there is still so much censorship?

last edited at Feb 19, 2018 7:33PM

Melon
Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

Found it by google picture search, through sheer desperate taking screenshots... (Maybe, I'm a fool, but it worked)

It's a Mystery movie called Mortem from 2010.

Melon
Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

Hi,

I stumbled upon this music video and was wondering if this is a movie. Oooh, I really hope so, because, it looks amazing!

Link to Youtube

Does anybody have an idea what movie (short film, I take whatever xD) this might be? I really hope this is a thing :D
(I could have asked the uploader of the vid, but he didn't answer to a similar question from six months ago, so..... T-T)

Ehm. The music video seems to have merely grabbed inspiration from various older horror movies (mainly Roger Coreman I'd say). Given the number of repeated scenes, I'd say they were on a bit of a budget too. I'd be rather surprised if there is a short film of any kind behind that.

If you are looking for music videos that follow the nature of this site to some extent, I would suggest Hayley Kiyoko's stuff on YouTube. The music style is less 80s emo electronica than the other band, but in terms of the "is it warm in here or is that just me"-factor, I'd say the videos surpass it in many ways. "Girls like Girls" is pretty famous anyway, and one of the few videos that does not feature Hayley herself (another is "One Bad Night", which is very sweet, but addresses a different kind of LGBT topic); "Cliffs Edge" and "Sleepover" are interesting, with the former having a bit of a dark edge as well; "Feelings" is technically one of the most harmless ones, but in terms of chemistry... The newest one "Curious" is nice too, even if the topic is a bit painful.

If you want something a bit more edgy, there are always The Veronicas, with the Ruby Rose directed video being quite the standout (the singer and Ruby were a couple at the time...).

Thanks for the answer. To me it seems as if all the scenes were from just one movie, because it is always the same characters. They have motorbikes, so it is probably not a classic movie (?). Horror yes, probably, thanks for the name! the repeating scenes imply that it is a fanmade video, I guess. Or it is use as an art choice.

The relationship between the two girls is pretty explicit, so it should be mentioned somewhere, is what I though. Because actually I can look into a list of 500 lebian movies and I didn't find anything usefull till now. But they kissed and had sex, so it is not just a minor subtext thing.

Thanks for the other Youtube stuff, too. I'm not really looking for edgy stuff :D I'm more of the fluffy type (well, dark, but fluffy). I just liked the chemistry between the girls, so I'm going to keep on searching.^^

last edited at Feb 19, 2018 6:52PM

Melon
Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

Hi,

I stumbled upon this music video and was wondering if this is a movie. Oooh, I really hope so, because, it looks amazing!

Link to Youtube

Does anybody have an idea what movie (short film, I take whatever xD) this might be? I really hope this is a thing :D
(I could have asked the uploader of the vid, but he didn't answer to a similar question from six months ago, so..... T-T)

last edited at Feb 19, 2018 6:14PM

Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

Almost skipped this one, because I'm generally not so much a fan of this mangaka's drawing style, but... so glad I didn't miss this. The art was nice and Asuka with glasses is so cute :3 If the beginning wasn't so confusing, this would be a 10/10 for me. still great though!

last edited at Feb 19, 2018 3:19PM

Melon
Citrus discussion 18 Feb 17:16
Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013
  1. you're right. what mei did to yuzu making her fall more and more for her wasn't wise. I can't argue with that,she is still a human who makes mistakes after all.but still calling her weak because of this means that all of us here are weak because every human make these kind of mistakes at some point in their life.and i doubt telling her that she has an arranged marriage would change much. just think about it..

2.i think you kind of misunderstood me here,what i implied is that someone must take the responsibility before falling hard in love and know the consequences. it is not just about lesbian love it is the same with hetero love,if you think that love is just a lust or some sort of game or enjoyment and if you can't bear the burden of society pressure or the burden of becoming a father or working and spending money on your woman and children then don't bother. children with no parents is already considered a world top issue.don't just if you didn't have your way(and i doubt you will easily have your way) be all like "Yes i regret it,I Will Just Suicide" or "I ll just give up and become depressed".

3.nope,it is mature. i'm not talking about giving up or winning here,we're not having a sexual preference war. but you must realize that the society will never change no matter what you pull and will always look down upon these kind of relationships, but one must be patient and endure it that's what i meant by accepting the society,it is like ITS ACTUALLY NORMAL for a society to think like this,that's how societies been and that's how they will always be,if human societies didn't think this way then welcome to a world where people would be having sex in the streets with their parents and pets its like lol i leave it to your imagination.. it is immature to bash the society or hate on every person who look down on you(if you hate on them or look down on them then you are just the same as them), you will never have rest .you need to learn to live cool with it ,believe me, being endurant is the key(please don't misunderstand me I dont mean to throw away your pride or to not stand for yourself).

4.well despite how ever it will end i hope it will be a satisfying ending and not a rushed one.

I still have a lot to talk but i'm not here to argue with anyone or to act intelligent,i'm just sharing my opinion with everyone so they can consider and think whatever more suitable for them.

  1. Well, I agree she is a 15 year old girl after all. So she still has a lot to learn. And nobody's perfect. Still, telling someone in person is a prove of respect. it wouldn't change much, but it's about respect.

  2. well, okay. I can see what you mean.

  3. neither am I about to go into a sexual preference war. All I wanted to say is that open mindedness and thinking for yourself is important. Because if there were no open mided people we could still have slavery, witch burnings, etc. These are also things that society considered normal at some point.
    Also there is a great deal of things humans wouldn't do if it was allowed, because it is just more thrilling to do it when it's forbidden and exciting. It's just human nature. And it's not just society that upholds the moral standards. Well, neither of us has any prove that their version of the alternate reality is correct, so we might as well agree to disagree.

I'm also not here to get into great discussions. Sometimes I get carried away. And I wanted to know what your point was, because I didn't understand. Thanks for clarifying.

last edited at Feb 18, 2018 5:52PM

Melon
Citrus discussion 18 Feb 11:38
Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

I cant forgive what mei has done to yuzu and now this is the final blow. its like bruh if thats what you decided for yourself since you were a child why suddenly become a gay and start kissing and teasing yuzu..

The only explanation is that she actually LOVES YUZU A LOT, contrary to what people are assuming , its like are you people dumb ? if she didn't love yuzu she wouldn't even give her a look and kept progressing towards her dream just like how she always treated Himeko but Yuzu is different, She truly loved her.so the dream that she has always followed and her love for yuzu opposed each other.

What People Didn't Notice is that Mei HAD BEEN SUFFERING CONSTANTLY, and EVEN Yuzu can't do anything for her in this state. Actually what Mei has did is probably one of the most difficult decisions i have ever saw. She is truly strong not weak like how people are saying..I Really Respect Her decision and I think Yuzu should too,YES ITS HARD,I know, its really hard BUT just like how Mei decided this hard resolve Yuzu should too if she truly loved her , its never too late, both of them are still very young and could forget eventually.even if Mei threw all of her dreams aside and decided to stay beside Yuzu still, the ghosts from the past will come back to hunt her and will especially hunt Yuzu leading her to think it was better if she didn't fall in love with Mei and many of other hardships.Mei did this for her own good in the future and for Yuzu's good too, she actually did it out of her pure love for Yuzu so she won't get hurt in the end in the future, yes she will be hurt a lot in the beginning but she will get over it believe me. so Thinking this through is better than regretting it in the future.

i don't want to be this kind of person but what made me write this is that because i knew two women who always loved each other and i was their friend and respected their love, but once they faced the pressure of society and the difficulties of two women living alone with no men helping them with money or protecting them and with no children there to be by their side when they get old one of them has committed suicide and the other has followed her.

Im not saying you should believe my story but regardless what im trying to say is that you should think of these things properly and not take it lightly without giving in to your emotions so you won't be facing those kind of hardships in your real life,I'm saying this for your own good, If you wanna be gay then be prepared for it!!! don't drive your lover crazy in the future.
if you cant respect a manga ending or got depressed over it,then im sorry to tell you that being a gay is not for you, to be a gay is not for weak people and is not just a sexual preference it is a matter of being able to live a decent life or a depressing life.

I had always thought Citrus was a dumb drama and only kept reading it because it was entertaing nonetheless , I didnt think it would get this dramatic towards the end and actually leads you to questioning your views about life

If Saburo Uta actually ended this manga like how I described then it is really one of the most mature endings i've ever read and this manga should be labled among people as "Aimed Towards Prudent and Mature people" though i know a lot of people will call it a bad ending.

I know my comment wont be liked by many and is not gonna get much attention but im writing this to rational and mature people who know what they are doing with their life.

I can see that you are an intelligent person who thinks about the world rationally, but there's still some things that tick me off in your comment. (no offence)

  1. People say she is weak because she made Yuzu fall for her really hard, even though she knew that what she wanted (taking over the academy) didn't work with the relationship. Also she didn't have the guts to tell her personally. I agree though, if Mei wanted to run the academy truly, she needed to break the relationship off. But I also think it is past the point where Yuzu can just laugh it off. She scarred her for life. Will Yuzu ever love someone like that again out of fear if the person just up and disappears without seeing her again?

  2. So, are you implying that it is better for a lesbian to marry a guy and live a loveless life with children? Because you can't really chose to be gay, you know? And what if her marriage falls apart, because she can't give the man the sex he wants, because she just doesn't like penis?

  3. It's not mature to just accept that society is fucked up. Where would we be if everyone had always ever accepted it?

  4. I think Citrus will not meet your standards of a well written ending.

Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

I'm usually more into the more mature age gap, but this one was adorable xD

Melon
Citrus discussion 18 Feb 06:03
Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

What I liked about this manga was the character development of Mei. Despite all the shit she constantly pulled off (some you could understand, some was just stupid), you could see her falling for Yuzu. I always hoped she would give something back to Yuzu, but all she ever did was take. With this bitter letter she confessed her feelings and is also running away from them. So it's 10000 steps backwards again (and a huge stab into Yuzu's heart). I understand that Mei is bound by her heritage, but that still doesn't give her the right to treat the one she supposedly loves like that. Then again, Mei is a 15 year old girl, so how grown up can you expect her to be. It's still a pity that all the character developement that could have been so good, was just destroyed.

last edited at Feb 18, 2018 6:04AM

Melon
Citrus discussion 17 Feb 16:18
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joined Mar 22, 2013

Uh-oh, what do you guys think? Will Mei get married and Yuzu crash the marriage ceremony?

I don't think it'll get to that. On another note, I think it's weird that Ume (Yuzu's mom) hasn't realized what's going on between the girl after Mei told her not to say anything to Yuzu, and I wonder where she was going in this chapter (meeting with Mei, maybe?) and what Yuzu was going to tell her before stopping herself.

I think the mom must have noticed something. Or she still believes that Yuzu is sad because she loved her very much as a sister. well... She might as well be meeting the father...? But he could just come home...?

The fancé has also a lot of potential of breaking through this dilemma. He should notice something too... Mei also asked him not to tell Yuzu and he knows that Yuzu likes someone, she worked to get the money for the rings after all... I even bet, that Mei kept the ring and that he could find and recognize it.

last edited at Feb 17, 2018 4:31PM

Melon
Citrus discussion 17 Feb 16:02
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joined Mar 22, 2013

Uh-oh, what do you guys think? Will Mei get married and Yuzu crash the marriage ceremony?

Melon
Citrus discussion 17 Feb 15:57
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joined Mar 22, 2013

Please don't let Mei fuck the fiance!... I feel like i have to write this 10 times and then sacrifice a goat over an altar to Satan, so that, for the price of my soul, my wish will come true

That won't happen.
Japanese fans loved this chapter (while being sad, how could they not) because of Mei's POV, and they're very hopeful. As I said earlier, completely different reactions.

Maybe it's because in western shows there is often really shitty endings for the lesbian couples and people have gotten maybe a bit oversensitive. Don't know how it is in Japanese media. It's probably not even portrait directly there, whereas in western culture it is still used to "shock" people -> "what can we do to make the show more interesting?" "let's have two girls kissing, because it's sexy, they can still end up with men after two seasons." That might be some of the producer's line of thought...
Well, I still have hope. There are always some signs to begin with, if it's a shitty queerbaiting storyline or some actual romantic story. And here the signs still point to YURI :3 (aside from the mangaka's statement, too.)

Melon
Citrus discussion 17 Feb 15:48
Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

Saburouta has already received death threats from (western) fans. Go figure.

Holy fuck... Some people are mental. I was actually wondering if Saburouta had to deal with angry fans judging by the reactions of some people in here (most notable one, a person wishing that the author of Nestuzou Trap gets cancer); but to have it actually happen... Well, what am I saying, this is the internet, the place where the respect died some time since... Wait, do you have to be born in the first place before dying?

Yeah, holy fuck. It's the internet where people can put their feelings out there without filter and without thinking about that the other person, that they are insulting, is a person too... O.o
It's also a strange idea for me that people can influence the story. It's the author's story, if they don't like it, they should just walk away. Or draw their own manga, see how well they do that! :<

That said, it was a hard and heartbreaking chapter to take in :'( but I also wouldn't say it was out of character. I'm hoping for a good resolve. Taking your space like that is a major thing. You can't just laugh it off. I wonder how it will be resolved.

Melon
Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

Yeah Mikage, show your true colours... You're so cool! :D

Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

well, at least we know she wasn't mad... ;_____; #weakpositiveargument

Melon
Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

There is english subs for the first Ep now! :D

here or here too
chances are good that there is more to come :3

Sadly these have been blocked and taken down.

Yeah the whole channel was shut down. Maaaaaan that's it for the english subs. I don't get it... (and I feel sorry for that kind person who made the subs... ;_; )

Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

awwww why am I only finding out about this now, this is great! and beautiful + full colour too. Score! Don't contact me for the next three days, I'm busy :P

Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

hm, pressuring people with money sure is romantic....^^ (sarcasm-allert)

Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

Haaaah, the happiness, this was so cute. :D And unlike in some other stories there was no bitter after taste. Pretty long for a 4-koma, too. Great!
Mina is s cute and Hime, too. "It's a declaration of war" hahaha, go girl xD

Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

Urgh, was not what I expected. But again it proved to me that I won't like the rape-tag even if I like the mangaka.

Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

waitwaitwaitwait, I thought it was a oneshot. (because I didn't read the title) But I'm absolutely loving this!!!

Melon
Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

I wanted you to pity me more... O.o kinda sad...

last edited at Feb 2, 2018 4:26PM

Melon
Their Story discussion 02 Feb 11:29
Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

As a glasses wearer I am devastated!

Melon
Sandra2
joined Mar 22, 2013

Crap, I liked the unrequited love, because that's my life entirely and it's somehow comforting to read about it.
But the ending... is sad. I hope she finds someone in the future who appreciates her, because someday this will not be enough and it just hurts to ride on false hopes.