Uh... Ok. That escalated fast.
Not sure I like Kagami's intentions so far. So she's into puppy because maybe she had a thing for the mom + some kind of survivors guilt? Somehow this leads to crushing on the daughter... I guess it's a good thing Indou is denser than a rock

I'm not sure Indou is dense so much as extremely naive and inexperienced. The fact Indou immediately picked up on the fact that Kagami must have some sort of anterior motive for only inviting her out on the picnic suggests she is actually quite perceptive and inquisitive, but just completely lacks the sort of prior socialization to contextualize Kagami's behavior.

So what did everyone make of Kagami's line about "not caring about maidens or anything like that?"

It came off as a bit of strange thing to say, but I took it to mean something along the lines of Kagami basically saying I'm not a lesbian but I'm not going to let anybody steal you away?

Or something perhaps along the lines of I'm normally not into girls, but I am into you?

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I think the cutest thing about this pair is that despite the fact that Indou is younger, naive and tiny she is totally the tougher and more bad-ass of the two where as her older uptight and proper senpai tries to act all tough. but is actually more feminine. Kagami took one look at that snake and freaked out while Indou was like, cool a snake, let's throw it on a skewer and have picnic. Then a wild boar attacks and Indou thinks nothing of it other than this is awesome, the main course just showed up. She even totally saved Kagami's ass when she froze in fear while trying to flee from the boar.

It's really adorable how their rolls are kind of reversed. Usually it's the tomboy type character who is the aggressor in the relationship and the dominant one in these sorts of stories.

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Kagami reminds me a lot of "The Master" from My Master & Furry-eared Girl Mel

Now look what you made me do:

Scene: Indou by herself in the woods, having wandered off from her group chasing a [small animal of some kind] to cook and eat. She hears a noise from above—up in that tree, it’s Mel, having wandered off from the Master while following a pretty butterfly, then chased by a wild boar deep into the woods. She’s startled to see Indou—teeters, then falls, right onto Indou’s lap. She’s scratched, dirty, in tears—until kind, brave Indou takes her in her arms and comforts her as she sobs.

Scene: The Master, beyond frantic with worry, rushes around calling for help, encounters Kagami waiting at the edge of the woods for the cadets to emerge from their field exercise—the group does come out, but no sign of either Indou or Mel. Kagami and Master run into the woods calling for their cadet and maid, respectively. They search separately, then find each other again by chance and agree to stay together. It’s getting dark, but neither one has any thought of abandoning the search.

There will be a storm. There will be a deserted ramshackle hut in the woods. There will be clinging together in fear, and huddling together for warmth. There will be comforting. There will be disheveled clothing and the sound of heartbeats.

There will be, in short, so much cuteness as to threaten the integrity of the entire space-time continuum.

That’s all I have for now.

I thought we were on the same page and I could see where you going with that, but where is the Donner Party cannibal ending, where with her eyes blurred by tears, a desperate and starving Kagami sneaks up and smashes sleeping Mel's head in with a large rock?

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Shouldn't it be an age gap now?

It is only 2 years different so i guess it not that large of an age gap.

Really? I must have missed that one. Kagami surely looks like she's at least 18.

Although she acts and looks quite a bit older, Kagami is just an upper classman. I think even more so it's how young our protagonist looks that gives off the impression such an age gap.

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Wow, it skipped completely over the yuri crush tag and and went strait to full on yuri. What will truly be hilarious will be right after we finally get it tagged the mangaka will throw some sort of wrench in the works like by adding the Kasumi asexual story arc or some other anti-yuri plot twist.

Anyway, I'm glad it at least got tagged with something stronger than subtext. Now all the psycho yuri purists who shriek like a vampire with a crucifix jabbed in its eyeball the moment they see a het tag will actually check it out.

Ps why do most manga/anime girls have virtually no alcohol tolerance? And the ones that do are usually depicted as alcoholics

Aside from "it's girly and proper to not be a hard drinker" (and can be played for cute humor), low body weight and inexperience go a long way to make alcohol hit like a truck. Also, alcohol tolerance like lactose tolerance can differ across various populations thanks to genes that code for enzymes related to metabolizing alcohol - basically people with the different genes don't process alcohol as well. It's far from absolute, but Japanese people are one of those populations with a (relatively) high incidence of low tolerance.

As far as the second point, well, one way to build your tolerance is to drink more...

Also: drinking slower, eating before, being fat, and some medications can also do it (dont do this one)

Thank you for answering (and the drinking tips). You make good points and I agree with you. But about the Japanese people and alcohol tolerance, I feel like that might be a stereotype (I haven’t done research on it so I’m only speculating).

Anyway, my initial question was referring to how alcohol tolerance seems to be exaggerated in manga/anime. I’ve usually come across stories with women who either have no alcohol tolerance (like here) or have drinking problems. Rarely have I seen female characters depicted as being able to handle their alcohol without implied alcoholism. Here Sakurako is a high school student, so low alcohol tolerance is expected since she has little experience with drinking. But the girl didn’t drink a bottle of beer, she ate whiskey bon bons. Chocolates with alcohol have very little of it in them. Even if you eat a lot, they’re not meant to get you full on drunk. That’s why this felt exaggerated and unrealistic. I’ve noticed this pattern often in manga and just wanted to point it out.

So your first point, basically girls not being able to handle alcohol is “moe,” is the only reason I can think of that author’s depict their female characters this way. I didn’t mean to write an essay, please excuse my blabbing

If you have a low tolerance you can definitely get a pretty good buzz going just by munching out on those little liquor bottle shaped chocolates because I've done it before. I never drink, but I am a fiend for chocolate so I've sat down and eaten through over a dozen of those things before and I was definitely not sober afterwards. There is however no way you could get seriously trashed on them unless you ate stomach churning quantities, like 100+.

It depends on the chocolates, as some have more or less booze in them but the little chocolate bottle shaped ones have quite a bit. I would put eating a bit over a dozen at like the same as at least drinking a good bottle of beer. I've eaten a ton of some lesser brandy filled ones and never really got a buzz so it does depend on which ones you get.

I should also add for those planning to try it, be ready to feel pretty blegh afterwords. The combination of sugar, fats, booze and chocolate really isn't great for your stomach.

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trucest anime??
https://myanimelist.net/anime/36632

2 incest(blood related) anime on the same day, so where is my yuri incest anime?

wut the other one?

Is it just me or is there some sort of real fad in Japan right now for incest stories? I'm by no means prude and believe people are free to be into what ever gets them off, but it seems like such a bizarrely niche fetish to have such a huge pop culture impact. It would be a bit like if all of a sudden there were two or three anime a season about necrophilia or bestiality.

Well, I really doubt it's trying to mock the genre and I didn't see anything like that in the first episode, but who knows how it'll go.
Just remember they're idols trying to help a city. There's lots of projects like this in Japan, some trying to help cities that were struck by natural disasters. And I doubt the show would mock people who are trying to help others. That doesn't fly well in Japan.

You can lovingly make fun of something. Many times there are parodies that are also love letters to whatever it is they are spoofing. Earlier I pointed to Dead Pool as an example of a movie that is poking fun of the very thing the studio that makes it is banking off of which is super hero franchises, but it is also a good example of a parody that was written from a place of endearment. The people who wrote Dead Pool obviously love super hero comics despite the fact they are poking fun of them.

I suppose ultimately humor is subjective and everyone is free to interpret it however they so choose. I'm guessing you also felt that Majo Shoujo Ore was a serious drama and romance story rather than a parody? Anyway, to each their own.

I will continue to watch the death metal zombie idols with the mad scientist manager as a comedy. If you wish to interpret it as a serious idol anime then by all means do so.

=)

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You know this art reminds me of Amagakure Gido's work a bit in that the characters have a lot of dynamic facial expressions. But yeah, I really love how we have so many high quality adult yuri manga's being translated. It is really what I've been needing

Amen! Coming of age first love stories are cute and all, but they have been done to death.

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Just watched Zombieland. That was one BRUTAL DISS of the Death Metal scene! I'm guessing the creators of the anime have a very poor opinion of the genre.

Death Metal fans are depicted as a bunch of cretins who can't tell a musical performance by a real band from the random antics of a group of mindless zombies -- and by random antics I mean grotesque screaming, spastic shaking, vandalizing the venue and biting the audience. They loved it! In fact, everyone thought it was, like, best concert ever.

That was some vicious disrespect...

(Not that I'm complaining, mind you. Actually, I give the authors two thumbs up for a job well done. They sure understand Death Metal. ^_~ )

I'm pretty sure the entire point of this show is to parody and mock the entire idol and pop culture scene. The running joke and social commentary for this show is basically the music and idol industry is such a vapid wasteland of manufactured pseudo "talent" that even a bunch of mindless corpses can entertain these drooling imbeciles. I don't know if they are going to stick to the death metal scene, but I get a feeling they are going to end up targeting other genres as well. I guess only time will tell.

Cygames is producing the show. They're one of the companies actually making profit with the idol genre since they develop the im@s game. I strongly doubt there's any intended social commentary. It's a comedy, that's all. Seeing anything else is reading too much into it.

Also, apparently from episode 2 towards they'll be proper idols, singing and dancing.

Comedies are the genre most apt to poke fun of the foibles of societal norms. That's pretty much the bread and butter of any parody. Look at Dead Pool for instance. It was made by a studio that banks off of super hero movies yet the entire premise of Dead Pool is to poke fun of the super hero genre.

Send a dump truck full of money to the mangaka and you can make it so.

So lazy boy is indeed lazy and I don't want to negate the experience of males in female bodies, but there is a certain advantage to not caring overly wherever that line is about your gender. lazy boy/girl isnt non- or a-gender or nonbinary, but rather, apathetic about it, and that's a legitimate take, too, IMO. It makes this typical cliched zany thing a little more interesting.

Yeah, that's exactly what I liked about this story. I tend to like parodies and deconstructions of over done cliches and these "woke up as a different gender" types of stories always seem to revolve around the MC freaking out over what's happened to them and how its completely turned their lives upside down and here instead we have this totally apathetic guy who simply doesn't give enough of a damn to even really care one way another about what's happened to him which is hilarious.

Me tbh. If I turned into a guy I wouldn't really mind lol.

Yeah switching genders would be a source of a lot of new info. and apparently whatever magic is involved does a thorough, painless job, to boot.

I don't know if anyone here knows the American webcomic "Misfile" by Chris Hazelton, but Ash, the main character, gets magically turned into a girl, but the Powers That Be decide to make every other aspect of his life absolutely wonderful, yet he does nothing but whine even though the switch also caused his girlfriend (that he got after being turned into a girl -- he was a total loner as a boy) not to be killed. Said girlfriend is a saint, fortunately, so she puts up with a whiny little bitch who would rather she be in an urn than having him lose his masculinity.

I think lazy boy's attitude is a bit healthier. Roll with it.

Yeah, if you think about it other than the initial shock to your sense of self caused by ending up basically in the body of a complete stranger and losing and gaining some rather personal body parts, the real bitch would simply be how everyone else treated you.

The biggest problem would be if you were in a serious relationship with somebody since unless they were both bisexual and incredibly open minded it would probably spell the end of that relationship which would be really rough on top of all the identity crisis stuff. The girl friend from that web comic you are talking about would be like one in a million catch. I think even most married spouses would bail in a situation like that.

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It's about time somebody spoofed all those gender bender stories. The MC just strait up doesn't give a single shit.

For the people complaining about family abuse being far too common in romance manga, well it's even more common IRL. Part of why people write about it is because it's a very common and shitty experience, maybe the author was abused or they know someone that was. I have gay family members and some other family members that unfortunately have less than favorable opinions of them, or if it's not about being gay it's about something else. Ultimately at the end of the day some family members are just mean people, sometimes they're older and have dated thinking that they were raised on in a different time period, I think this applies to a lot of people's families.

Exactly. This is one of my pet peeves when I see people screech, trash the author and drop a story the moment there cute little anime girl and her cute little romance turn out to be less than perfect. There are a lot of hurt and deeply emotionally damaged people out there in the world and and just because they aren't easy to look at doesn't mean you should avert your gaze and pretend they don't exist. Often people who do this sort of thing with fictional characters and settings are the same ones who turn a blind eye to real world suffering and malice because its easier and more comfortable for them to do so. There is a lot horrible ugliness and cruelty in the world and those who willfully look away and pretend those that suffer do not exist are just another flavor of that cruelty and ugliness.

There is no real harm in people doing this sort of thing with fictional characters and stories, but they must remember not to turn that same blind eye to real world suffering when the time comes. I see it all to often and it makes me feel sick inside.

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how did she get ill?

I would imagine like all the other adults did. By enough air exposure. That is the, the bacteria (I think it was mentioned it was bacterial?) mutated enough that it started to affect her.

Yeah, I think it was a virus, but you are right they had a discussion about it with science girl from the university and basically the conclusion was the epidemic had spread and mutated to the point that even airborne exposure has become a vector for transmission albeit a slower one.

That twist about bowman-kun was brutal. I'm starting to get the sinking feeling this may end up as the story of a party wipe. I hope at least one of these poor girls walks away.

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I´m literally sick of these abusive/asshole family plots. It´s not only boring and overused but also more than unpleasant to read. Its the same with this arranged/forced marriage shit. Parents who are doing this should be skinned alive as slowly and painfully as possible.
That this would happen was already "hinted" early enough and I really should have stopped there and now it goes on I´m so heavilly underwhelmed and unsuprised by the lack of creativity the author displays here that.... it´s hard to put anything else but disgusted as my currrent mood.

Just be glad you haven't had to live it first hand. I promise you the reality of it is far uglier than anything depicted in this cute little love story. There is a whole world of misery out there going on just beyond closed doors. You needn't look far. There are probably a few within a block or two of where you live.

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Wtv posted:

It's not uncommon for animes to be picked up after it was released. While I wouldn't be surprised if some streams would avoid getting it, CR already said they try to localize everything. And they already brought worse things before.

I saw the first chapter, yup! Cr took it... And the animation was better than expected, plus they made a great ending song and visuals too.
They didn't show one part that was very bold in the manga but I think that's okay.

The animation was freakishly good for UzaMaid! I mean I honestly don't understand how a low profile little yuri comedy ended up with the sort of animation budget and talent behind it to pull off something like that first episode. The frame rate was a little bit on the low side, but the motion was beautifully dynamic and fluid.

I wish most anime were even half as well animated as this silly little comedy about a psycho lolicon maid.

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Just watched Zombieland. That was one BRUTAL DISS of the Death Metal scene! I'm guessing the creators of the anime have a very poor opinion of the genre.

Death Metal fans are depicted as a bunch of cretins who can't tell a musical performance by a real band from the random antics of a group of mindless zombies -- and by random antics I mean grotesque screaming, spastic shaking, vandalizing the venue and biting the audience. They loved it! In fact, everyone thought it was, like, best concert ever.

That was some vicious disrespect...

(Not that I'm complaining, mind you. Actually, I give the authors two thumbs up for a job well done. They sure understand Death Metal. ^_~ )

I'm pretty sure the entire point of this show is to parody and mock the entire idol and pop culture scene. The running joke and social commentary for this show is basically the music and idol industry is such a vapid wasteland of manufactured pseudo "talent" that even a bunch of mindless corpses can entertain these drooling imbeciles. I don't know if they are going to stick to the death metal scene, but I get a feeling they are going to end up targeting other genres as well. I guess only time will tell.

Sakurako was an adorable drunk. Also, seriously how is this not at least deserving of yuri crush tags? I mean I can maybe see the argument that Kasumi is asexual or something making it one sided, but Sakurako is strait up yuri mauling her at this point.

Okay, I'm not to familiar with it, but asexual people don't usually get jealous when their wife friend tries to kiss another person, do they?

I don't want to get into an argument about asexuallity since I pretty much agree with you that they are a couple at this point and they are likely both into each other that way, but yes you can be an asexual and still have romantic partners even without ever having any outright desire to ever have sex with anyone.

Basically, asexuals come on a bit of spectrum. You are thinking of someone who is both asexual and aromantic who just simply has no interest in either sex or romance and does not bother with those sorts of relationships at all, but there are also a lot of asexual people who despite having no desire or interest in sex do have an interest in emotionally intimate and exclusive romantic relationships with others. For those sorts of asexuals possessiveness and jealously revolving around their partner certainly can be a thing despite there being no sexual attraction or desire to ever have sex.

The only reason I even mentioned Kasumi being even possibly asexual is the fact she has never shown so much as even the slightest bit of sexual interest in anyone or anything around her, not even so much as a thought that somebody is attractive let alone a desire to act upon it in any way which is a unusual for a highschooler. It certainly doesn't mean she has to be asexual or that she doesn't have those sorts of desires. It's just a little odd is all and could explain why she never seems to respond even when being kissed and mauled by Sakurako. It could also just be her extremely chill personality etc.

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Sakurako was an adorable drunk. Also, seriously how is this not at least deserving of yuri crush tags? I mean I can maybe see the argument that Kasumi is asexual or something making it one sided, but Sakurako is strait up yuri mauling her at this point.

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We always knew this relationship was messed up. The only reason it worked more or less was because Yuu is someone who lets herself get taken advantage of easily. If she was even a tiny bit more selfish this would have broken apart around chapter 3. lol

Ultimately I believe this is what Yuu's character arc will be. She must learn to be more assertive of her individuality and with that develop a healthy amount of selfishness which she is currently lacking.

I've always wondered what sets romance apart from just an emotionally and intellectually intimate friendship. People keep telling me you can have asexual romances, but the only thing I can see that really sets a romance apart from an emotionally intimate friendship is the sexual dimension to the relationship.

The only difference I see between somebody I am close intimate friends with and somebody I am in a romantic relationship with is the fact there is a physical dimension and attraction present in the case of a romance. If you go by the definition I see some people use which includes non sexual but emotionally intimate relationships as being romantic then I think these two girl's qualify.

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The thing is... in the novel, the Salamander and the Frog don't date.

The Salamander imprisoned the Frog because it was feeling lonely, being unable to leave its cave.

In the end, the Frog can't leave, even if it wanted to, it accepted its fate. Somehow, they became friends.

Super Friends.

When I said that your synopsis of the story of the Salamander and the Frog sounded like a metaphor for unrequited love I didn't necessarily mean that it was also a perfect fit for the dynamic between our two main characters although it is pretty close.

Basically, the Salamander is lonely and sad because it can't leave it's cave and it wants company. The part about the Salamander being stuck in its cave is a metaphor for shyness. When the story describes the Salamander as having trapped the frog, it's a great analogy for the Salamander having captured the Frog's heart. The reason I think this story describes an unrequited love is the part about how the Frog is starving.

The Frog has been ensnared by her love for the Salamander making her unable to leave the Salamander's side even though the Frog is dying for her feelings to be returned. The Salamander is either unaware or unwilling to let the Frog go because it is lonely and enjoys the Frog's company even though the Frog is slowly withering away as it starves for something more.

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https://youtu.be/O3VO4zinUOI this looks sooooooooo bad hahahaha

Comedy of the Year tbh.

moar gore anime!

The 1st episode of Zombieland was actually quite hilarious. I went in only expecting a low tier horror series and instead I got death metal zombie idols.

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