As someone who only watched the first episode of Valkyrie Drive, I thought that the title was using "drive" as in, you know, driving a car... so I was thinking, "Duh, of course you can't drive while you're having sex (unless you want to get into a car crash...)!" Then, I actually read it and I remembered what driving was.

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@LumberingCrane

Nice to know that there's actual romance involved. I figured that there would be based on the creator, but this whole fiasco worried me a tad bit. It's also nice to know that you can be a manipulative asshole without getting a bad ending... I mean, it seems like that's pretty much the whole point of the VN from the trailers (though they appear to be pretty damn misleading...), and, quite frankly, it sounds fun to engage in that sort of stuff.

@Gralwer

I agree with your points completely. While I don't really have as much of a problem with the het routes anymore since I've since found out that they're avoidable and, more importantly, not freaking rape, I still kind of do have a problem with the fact that they weren't advertised at all. I know Love never EXPLICITLY stated that this was a full yuri VN, but, to me, at least, the marketing sure made it seem like it was, especially that "girls tying up other girls" line. Where's the "assholes dudes tying up girls" line, huh? I just find the inclusion of het content more than a bit odd considering the fact that they weren't advertised at all... Maybe they could've attracted some het lovers or something with the promise of 5 minutes of het BDSM, but I don't know. I mean, really, who the hell is going to buy a game like this if they don't like yuri? I don't know about you all, but I know for sure that I despise any form of het in my yuri games. I don't know if Sweet Volley High is any good, but at least the marketing explicitly states that there's a het route (my problem with the het route, though, is that it's marketed so prominently when there are FOUR YURI ROUTES, but that's a different discussion entirely...). I mean, even if they did advertise it, I doubt that they would attract many people who like het BDSM stuff anyway taking Lumbering's info that the het "routes" are pretty much inconsequential... people who like that kind of stuff would probably be more into things that are primarily het, so I don't really see the purpose of this...

Then again, yeah, I haven't read the VN, so it's possible that they serve some kind of purpose. It seems unlikely to me considering how unimportant they apparently are, but, yeah, it's certainly wrong to judge something I haven't even read...

While themusicman's explanation makes sense, I'm still a bit bewildered by how dense Yagi is... I mean, she's acting like her and Mado aren't dating when she says in the first chapter that they're "together both online and in real life." They also kissed in the prequel, but, well, it seems like some parts of the prequel aren't canon to the main story, so that might be a bit different. I guess it's possible that she meant "together" as in "TOGETHER AS FRIENDS," but it still seems more than a bit odd to me.

I feel like I'm missing something here... what is this thing a parody of?

You know, the last time I asked this was kind of an expression of displeasure, but IS there anyone on the ship you can't have sex with?

The maid I think, which sucks to be honest considering I think of her as the best character in the game. She might as well be fanservice with all the references she makes but it was still effective for me.

Weird, did I have the most celibate playthrough possible in the game without realizing it? I did not have any sexual relations with any man or woman in the ship besides The Beauty.

I'm not sure how this VN works, but I guess you weren't being a manipulative asshole and all? You know, is there actually any romance in this or is it just sex? It seems like the only two characters who the MC can have an actual relationship with are The Beauty and the... Stalker?, but I'm kind of unsure now if there's actual love involved... If there is and the het routes are easily avoidable, then I might consider buying this... Actually, yeah, no... I try to dabble in every game genre out there, but I swore to myself that I would NEVER buy an ecchi/porn game. I hope I don't break this vow to myself like I did with my vow to never watch moe anime (AND LOOK WHERE I AM NOW!)

http://imgur.com/a/HytYF
So this is the cause of the drama?

Man, it seems even more screwed up now with more images. Granted, maybe it's less screwed up in context since I have no idea what's going on, but still... I kinda doubt that.

Also, is that feminine boy she's talking about referring to that crossdresser guy (forgot his name, sorry, whoever you are) ? GAH, IS THERE ANYONE ON THIS FREAKING SHIP THE HERO CAN'T HAVE SEX WITH?? I never played Fire Emblem, but this scene in particular kinda reminds me of the whole Soleil fiasco. And, man, if it really is him, the website pretty much blatantly lied (it did about the pres and cousin tol though, I guess). I suppose that thing it said about "you're a lesbian but even you have to admit he's cute" should have raised some red flags. At this rate, the Hero is going to be able to have sex with her fucking brother (I really hope this isn't the case... He's not on the ship though (unless he is) so I'm gonna hold out hope...)

You know, the last time I asked this was kind of an expression of displeasure, but IS there anyone on the ship you can't have sex with?

Edit: Alright, let's see the blatant lies the site told us (I'm not being serious here by the way). So, the Boy and the Pres both have "He wishes" next to the romanceable thing. I guess that's not really a denial, so you got me there, Love! I've heard that there's a scene wirh the Athlete and the Nerd too, and "No" and "Too flustered at even the thought" sure seem like clear denials to me. Granted, I didn't see any visual confirmation of these scenes, so this might not actually be true. Also, I knew I wasn't going crazy, MC's name is The Beast! I wonder why it's changed to The Hero in those images.

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Minutoh
Forgot to ask, but what is your Steam username? Cause I'm kind of curious about your rant... and just you know, no I won't for some reason try to add you as friend or contact you on Steam, because I can't since I never put 5$ there, damn you Steam! (>_>)

LumberingCrane
Thanks for clarifying, I already expected it was not as bad as people are making it to be, it's pretty obvious people are reacting like this just because they thought it was going to be 100% yuri even though I don't remember anywhere saying it was, though I can be mistaken about that, and I didn't know the BDSM was avoidable, I got the impression it was one of the focus of the VN.

Mega Mini Knight! Crappy name, I know, but at least it's creative. Looking back at it, it's kind of a dumb rant (as all rants are), but, hey, I feel no shame about me being an idiot.

As for the 100% yuri thing, while I suppose it wasn't directly stated that it was 100% yuri, the marketing for it sure seemed like it was. "Girls tying up other girls," the trailers just showing the yuri scenes, the site stating that none of the dudes were romanceable, etc., etc. It seems just a bit dishonest to me to not mention the het parts at all in the trailers or whatnot, but, really, it's Love's VN and she can do whatever she wants.

, though I guess that's easier said than done as yuri fans seem to be known as irrational drama queens... : x

Case in point: me. I know I shouldn't rant if I haven't even bought the VN, but I already started ranting on the Hella Yuri page... Apparently, that cousin thing does lead somewhere (bad), though I guess Lumbering's info seems to show that it's at least not rape and avoidable... This is still what I'd call fucking irreproachable, but, yeah, I should really wait for more information before I start ranting my head off (so damn fun to rant though).

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Yuri game jam? I assume a flurry of short visual novels (visual short stories?), Twine games and the occasional GameMaker joint

If I remember correctly, most of the games last year were pretty much like this. Most of them were mediocre, which is understandable given the time constraints, but Ebi-hime's glorious The Sad Story of Emmeline Burns and Nomnomnami's Syrup and the Ultimate Sweet were at least two quality finished VNs that came out of that thing. There were a ton of demos for VNs that were never finished, which saddens me... maybe some actually did get finished, I'll have to check up on their progress. Anyhow, both Nami and Ebi-hime are working on stuff for the YGJ this year, so, if nothing else, we can rest assured that there will be at least two good VNs that come out of this.

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The first game in this jam thing came out a day ago, Frog Love at Frog School. https://juicy-luscious-jams.itch.io/frog-love-at-frog-school

It's... not really all that good, but it's certainly something. That song in the credits is pretty great too.

It's pretty much a generic yuri thing with all the dialogue replaced with Ribbits. As you can imagine, it's pretty hard to follow, but I got the general gist of it from Maria's thoughts. And, really, the True Ending is not them hooking up but Rowan getting another GF and Maria feeling super jealous about it? Based on the credits, it seems that Maria's supposed to be a jerk, so I guess it's the best ending for Rowan? I don't really know...

Holy fuck. I knew this would be super fucked up, but that was somehow even more fucked up than I thought it'd be... Interesting read though, I suppose...

Plot twist: The friend is a hardcore lolicon, and Mimika has to protect Yuzumori from her.

I guess that would explain why Shiori seems so unfazed by Mimika being a lolicon... since she's a lolicon herself, she can relate to her! Now, that would be a great twist (maybe).

I wonder if Shiori's going to be like that doctor guy from that Beloved manhwa that showed up here recently, dropping some "vague" hints here and there that Mimika is in love with Yuzumori. It seems like it would fit her personality based on the little we know about her.

Aw man, it's the classic staring sadly with the three dots dialogue box thing. I hope that this doesn't mean anything bad is gonna happen (okay, it probably is).

Are my eyes deceiving me? Is this really a guy in a yuri manga who ISN'T AN ASSHOLE?! Well, he kinda is an asshole, but, you know, at least he's the funny kind of asshole.

Also, I love that whoever Wei was talking to in the beginning immediately knew that she was talkimg about herself.

Also, I don't love the abusive parent thing that seems to be coming up, but... I'll stick with it. I have high hopes for this thing, and hopefully it'll meet my expectations.

While there certainly is yuri manga here in America, I haven't seen it anywhere. My local library has a decently sized manga collection, but I haven't seen any yuri there... where art thou, yuri manga! Granted, even if I could find it, I wouldn't have the money to buy it, but it's still nice knowing it's nearby.

Well, I had a feeling that I wouldn't like this based on the tags, the title, and even the first page, and, what do you know, I was right. I'm kind of considering changing my "Read everything remotely yuri that shows up on Dynasty Reader" rule now...

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Well, at least it was clear from the start that this was going to be slightly messed up as opposed to the eye story where she got her eye bitten out out of nowhere. It seems like Shimazaki has a knack for slightly messed up stories that still manage to be cute somehow... That breeding line is more than a bit screwed up, but I can only hope it's voluntary science babies and not how breeding usually works in real life... (granted, I know nothing about real-life breeding but still) I mean, it seems like the manager's a good person, so I doubt she'd let that kind of thing happen.

You know, I wonder how well this pet shop is doing anyhow since the manager seems to be buying a ton of the pets herself. It seems like it'd be a huge waste of money to me... although at least they're getting some (presumably) free labor though.

Asami did outright say that Touko was bragging about her boyfriend again, so this is, at best, cheating or, at worst... well, you know.

You read wrong, she's talking about another friend.
With this author, next chapter we learn that Touko is sleeping with a bunch of other girls. The fact that she knows the > nurse won't be back make me think she's accustomed to it.

Oh shoot, she's talking about a "Ayumin," not Touko. Whoops, disregard what I said then! I have more hope that this will end in a yuri fashion then.

Edit: I certainly wouldn't be surprised by that development... it's basically the same thing as Nadeshiko Hiyori except only one girl is sleeping with a bunch of other girls and not both of them... which is really not the same thing at all now that I think about it.

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Maybe it's just me, but I liked the artwork here a lot better than the artwork in that other thing he wrote, even though they're basically the same thing... it's the subtle things that count, I guess.

Anyhow, I agree with bighand... I do not trust this guy. I mean, Asami did outright say that Touko was bragging about her boyfriend again, so this is, at best, cheating or, at worst... well, you know.

I have to wonder about that massaging custom though. I mean, does any school actually have anything like that? It seems to me like the school is purposely trying to create yuri pairings with a custom like that...

http://dynasty-scans.com/series/yuri_mekuru_hibi

Ah, this is truly the most realistic yuri available on this site.

Ah, another one of those "doing sexual things to gain power!!" kinda things. At least this is actually yuri though. I'm a bit incensed that pretty much all of the action yuri out there is super ecchi... I was so excited for Soul Eater with lesbians and then it just turned out to be girls randomly having sex with each other. On a random note, before watching the first episode Valkyrie Drive, I was like "I can watch anything with yuri even if it's the trashiest thing ever" but after watching just the first episode I realized "I can't watch trashy stuff like this..."

Anyhow, as for the manga itself. It was pretty good. I feel like I've read it many times before, but, yeah, it was interesting and, well, it had yuri, so that's something it has going for it. I have to say that arm growing thing out of recklessness kinda reminded me of (spoilers for Madoka Magica... I'm sure everyone's watched it by this point, but it's better to be safe than sorry) Mami's death though I'm sure it's a fairly common thing in action manga. At least she didn't get her head bitten off like Mami did.

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Is it kinetic novel by chance?

Oh yeah, sorry that I forgot to mention the thing that would probably be a huge deciding factor for a lot of people. It's kinetic. I am gonna say though as someone who prefers the presence of choices, the lack of them here helps make the story feel more focused; it's still understandable though if it being kinetic will make some people dismiss it.

While I prefer VNs with choices, I don't really see anything wrong with kinetic novels either. They're basically just books but with pictures and music, and I like reading them (the good ones anyway) so I don't have a problem with them.

Out of curiosity though, what are the types of VNs anyway? Like, what would you call a VN with choices? Is it just a VN? I know that there are kinetic novels and sound novels, but what are the other kinds anyway?

Aren't there VNs with actual gameplay?
RPG and action gameplay.
Referring to that or just by narrative?

There are definitely a few like that. Most of Hanako Games' more recent games are basically VNs with some gameplay. I think there was a yuri VN beat-em up somewhere, but I forgot its name. But, yeah, I'm referring more to narrative kind of stuff.

Is it kinetic novel by chance?

Oh yeah, sorry that I forgot to mention the thing that would probably be a huge deciding factor for a lot of people. It's kinetic. I am gonna say though as someone who prefers the presence of choices, the lack of them here helps make the story feel more focused; it's still understandable though if it being kinetic will make some people dismiss it.

While I prefer VNs with choices, I don't really see anything wrong with kinetic novels either. They're basically just books but with pictures and music, and I like reading them (the good ones anyway) so I don't have a problem with them.

Out of curiosity though, what are the types of VNs anyway? Like, what would you call a VN with choices? Is it just a VN? I know that there are kinetic novels and sound novels, but what are the other kinds anyway?

That ramen scene kinda gave off a Ramen Daisuki Koizumi-chan vibe to me.... was that just me? It might be just that I view anything with ramen in it as giving off a Koizumi-chan vibe nowadays...

Anyhow, I'm kind of disappointed that the dom Hifumi scene got spoiled for me in the comments, but... it was still quite memorable. It just illustrates why I hate the fuck out of shoujo manga, but, regardless, it was still a good scene.

Also, Aoba always walks on on these "seemingly yuri but not really yuri" scenes, doesn't she? Hopefully, she'll walk in on a "seemingly yuri but, yes, it's actually yuri" scene one day. And then she'll think, "Oh, it's just another misunderstanding..." This is never gonna happen (maybe when the manga ends?), but I dunno, I hope it does.

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The "Het on Page 5" tag repelled me... the "Yandere" tag drew me back in... I was feeling pretty repulsed with that double dildo mouth thing cause what the hell, and I was laughing my ass off at the rest of the sexy scenes... I don't know what it was about them, but there was something comical about them... maybe it's just because it's 1 AM and I'm procrastinating on a huge project but yeah, anyway.... I was thinking, "You know something's a bit off here" when she started to get into it and then I remembered the "Drugs" tag and I was like "I don't like where this is going" and, what do you know, I didn't like where it was going... okay, I have to admit that I kind of do. Relationships that are actually... relationships are obviously the best relationships, but relationships that are not really relationships like this relationship can be quite interesting sometimes... (just trying to see how many times I could use relationships in one sentence)