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Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017

Retired idol and mangaka is probably the two most popular statuses for manga characters lol

Still enjoyed this one a lot

OL is probably more popular than mangaka.

I’d say OL and mangaka are about the same in terms of prevalence, in fact, it feels like a loooot of adult centered yuri manga focus on a stay at home mangaka girlfriend and a competent but overworked business woman.

I think it's kinda split down the middle from what I've seen. Between "stay at home mangaka with girlfriend that has work outside the home", and "two OL dating". Sometimes you'll get other dynamics, but those are the main two I'm the most familiar with.

last edited at Jul 3, 2021 1:59AM

FluffyCow
Image Comments 03 Jul 01:47
Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017
Pngkwci

^Both is good as they say.

Also yeah I love that if you're playing Gudako she calls you her wife. Chef's Kiss.

FluffyCow
Image Comments 03 Jul 01:39
Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017
9oetr8

Oh wow this is honestly perfect.

FluffyCow
Image Comments 03 Jul 01:33
Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017
Eytw-tivoaaqrko-orig

^Eating your partner out in the middle of a McDonald's sounds like a quick way to get arrested.

FluffyCow
Image Comments 03 Jul 01:13
Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017
E5f-gqgwyaav6uc-orig

Super freaking cute! @V-Oblivion In fairness Gavial emanates big spoon/top energy, Tomimi personality wise seems like she'd be very happy to submit to Gavial :P

Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017

Retired idol and mangaka is probably the two most popular statuses for manga characters lol

Still enjoyed this one a lot

Well I read manga of pretty much every genre, and I barely see Retired Idols. So it's interesting that people keeping saying it's one of the top ones. Ah well haha

last edited at Jul 2, 2021 10:56PM

FluffyCow
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Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017
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Amen to that BlueDsc, freckles aren't drawn enough if you ask me.

FluffyCow
Image Comments 02 Jul 22:20
Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017
90887862_p0

^Gotta have it prepared in advance with some lube.

FluffyCow
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Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017
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A terrible day for rain as they say.

Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017

So far I'm loving the series, thanks for the translation!

The former idol cliche is super overdone at this point but I just love adult yuri stories . Count me in !

Out of all my years reading Yuri I don't think I've seen the former idol plot beat "that" many times. At least not in Yuri specifically, so personally I'm fine with it. Also I think with how being an Idol is a big dream in Japan, and there's a often major problems with being an Idol, that a former Idol narrative makes sense for a Japanese series to have. Kind of reminds of the "American Dream" not working out type of narrative in American media. Both types of narratives are still relevant in current day.

It's just a trope I've seen too many times for my liking, not just in the yuri genre specifically.

Well that's unfortunate but fair enough. Again I personally don't think it's that over used, even in general manga and Japanese media. I also don't let tropes and clichés bother me unless it's something specifically negative or harmful. So even if it's used more than I'm aware of it's not going to put a damper on this manga for me. Hopefully you're still able to enjoy the manga despite one of the characters being tied to something you dislike.

FluffyCow
Image Comments 02 Jul 20:05
Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017
90931989_p17

Marisa is an entire buffet here.

FluffyCow
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Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017
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Absurdly wholesome.

FluffyCow
Image Comments 02 Jul 20:02
Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017
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Very glad to see this here. These two are a super cute ship, and their swimsuits are also very cute <3

Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017

Out of all my years reading Yuri I don't think I've seen the former idol plot beat "that" many times. At least not in Yuri specifically, so personally I'm fine with it. Also I think with how being an Idol is a big dream in Japan, and there's a often major problems with being an Idol, that a former Idol narrative makes sense for a Japanese series to have. Kind of reminds of the "American Dream" not working out type of narrative in American media. Both types of narratives are still relevant in current day.

There've been a few on Dynasty recently, so I can see how it would feel like a bit of an oversaturation currently. Plus a lot of them are the same kind of "I'm an idol or just recently stopped and also I just happen to be your/your friend's favorite and oh what a coincidence that we meet and now I'm inexplicably drawn to you." Big wish fulfillment vibes rather than just treating idol as a job one of them happens to have.

It's less dealing with the nuances of modern culture and more "my mom just sold me to One Direction"

Well I've been reading all Yuri coming out on Dynasty for awhile now, and somehow I'm not recalling many series with the narrative. So it at least doesn't feel oversaturated to me. However maybe I'm wrong and somehow the narrative is in every other recent Yuri series...I just missed it or completely forgot? Seems strange to me as my memory is pretty good haha

Also this series doesn't read like Wish Fulfillment to me. Life is full of funny little coincidences, and I don't think it's unrealistic. So too each their own, I'm going to keep reading and enjoying this series.

last edited at Jul 2, 2021 7:13PM

Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017

So far I'm loving the series, thanks for the translation!

The former idol cliche is super overdone at this point but I just love adult yuri stories . Count me in !

Out of all my years reading Yuri I don't think I've seen the former idol plot beat "that" many times. At least not in Yuri specifically, so personally I'm fine with it. Also I think with how being an Idol is a big dream in Japan, and there's a often major problems with being an Idol, that a former Idol narrative makes sense for a Japanese series to have. Kind of reminds of the "American Dream" not working out type of narrative in American media. Both types of narratives are still relevant in current day.

Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017

I am glad to see Ariel enjoys the thiccness as well.

Problem for me here though, if your partner/love interest is trying to lose some weight and get in shape, and you intentionally keep them overweight because it's your fetish that's not healthy. You should want your partner to feel good about their body and happy that they're taking steps to get into shape to achieve that.

Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017

Those fluffy snuggles are too strong.

Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017

Some of the best historical examples of minimal armour were Celts, as certain individuals would show their bravery by going to battle with little to no clothing whatsoever - just a sword or spear and a shield.

And as for what I said about feeling pervy when I don't want to, maybe I should have emphasised the "when" part.

For the last paragraph, I don't really have much to say except that those are some rather good points.

Oh okay, apologies I misunderstood. The way I read and interpreted the "when" was different than what you actually intended, I thought you meant that fanservice usually makes you feel like a pervert and/when you don't want to feel like one. Sorry if I'm not explaining myself super well, basically I'm saying language and interpreting it is often pretty tricky haha

Also yeah the Celts are a very interesting part of history. From what I know nudity and war paint went hand in hand with them.

last edited at Jul 1, 2021 4:24PM

Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017

So, when I last night said "from what little I read from the first paragraph" I really meant "just the first and maybe part of the second sentence" (in my defense, it was well past midnight, and I had woken up early in the morning that day for uni), and as a result, I kinda expected to find myself in a position to defend myself of possibly my wording making me look kinda unsavory in a way that might lump me in the same or at least similar category as the likes the "gamers tm" as I like to refer to them.

Luckily I was wrong, but I still gotta apologize for such assumptions.

So, in essence, my position of fanservice in general is like mixed at best, as it kinda makes me feel like a perv when I don't wanna feel like one. Even though I recognize that, just like you said the fanservice in this chapter does have a purpose here - to be subject to or even a vehicle of critique - it still kinda carries that previously mentioned bit.

As for people being able to wear whatever they want... I honestly feel the same in general - people can and should wear whatever they feel comfortable wearing in their everyday lives (home, work, outside, etc.). But when it comes to like armour and other combat-situation-stuff, it'd probably be more expected that soldiers and/or adventurers of the same "class" would generally have similar-ish armour with each-other. What I imagine to be a sabre (which I don't know much about fantasy world classes, so I'm kinda going off my own assumptions themselves based on some very limited knowledge gained from hanging out on Discord and watching a single r/DnDMemes video on YouTube) would probably be similar to like heavy or medium infantry, so you'd ideally have some kind of armour covering most of your body (largely metal armour, with some so-called soft armour for other areas for heavy, and a more balanced mix of chainmail and soft armour for medium), while light infantry can be more loose with how they'd dress themselves for combat.

As for the nuance thing, I don't really think I have anything to add.

Honestly, my concern with the armour and gear may be less about the looks of the person wearing those and more about the protection of that person.

In conlusion, I think the real misunderstanding on my part at least was that I expected an argument and instead it seems like we're saying similar-ish stuff.

Yeah I'm definitely not looking for an argument, sometimes I share clashing views, but I genuinely don't want to argue with people. I've argued with people in the past, but the longer I live the more I realize life is far too short and there's already enough drama with trying to get by as it is, so I'm glad that you sound levelheaded.

I agree with protection and that what you're saying makes sense, but sometimes people just want to say "fuck it' and go for the fashion, express their sexuality with their warrior prowess. There's historical real life examples of minimal armor, but in terms of video games there's those Dark Souls runs with no armor and fists only haha :P

As for feeling like a perv, well whatever you're comfortable with and with the media you're consuming. Consume what works for you and there's no judgement from me here. For me I don't feel like a perv because sexuality is just part of being a living creature, so I don't feel embarrassed or pervy consuming media with sexual elements/a sexual focus.

That said there is definitely media that have in my opinion really bad portrayals of sexuality, and those can feel bad to consume. There's certain lines and nuances to everything, and there's of course things I'm not comfortable with myself. So it's hard to really get across exactly how I feel here I guess. Same thing with most anything though, take violence for example, I love a lot of really violent action media, but there's also violent action media that just feel excessive and gross in how it's handled. Same goes with sexuality, I love to embrace sexuality, but there's definitely times where I'm not comfortable with how it's handled in media as I said. So I think it's a case by case thing with any media I consume. Plus everyone's opinions will differ on these types of things and that's perfectly okay. Anyhow, it's been a fun discussion and thank you.

last edited at Jul 1, 2021 2:16PM

Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017

I'm kinda too tired to read this rn, so I'm gonna have the google translate voice read it out for me while I read along first thing in the morning and then reply properly, but from what little I read from the first paragraph of this comment, it seems like my laziness and poor choice of words resulted in a misunderstanding.

Edit: If you still respond I hope you read this before doing so, maybe with this response I can help clear up some of my intent and thoughts before you formulate a response.

Misunderstandings happen, it's no big deal. A lot of what I was saying were just some additional thoughts about the manga and subjects in it, and not directly pointed at you notably. Also some thoughts on views I hear mostly on social media like Twitter. The first paraph was referring to what you were saying, and the rest from "IF" onwards were additional thoughts, sorry if I came off the wrong way myself.

Ultimately my views boil down to, men and women should be able to choose whatever armor/gear/clothing they want. Regardless of if it's a lot of skin showing, no skin showing, anything in between and so fourth. As long they're comfortable in their body and with what they're wearing. I think this manga so far lacks some nuance there is all, nothing super serious.

last edited at Jun 30, 2021 8:28PM

Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017

Hu-hum...
Even though I liked the chapter, I'm not quite sure how to comment.
On the one hand, I feel like a lot of the things are (mostly implicit) feminist critique, which is dope.
But on the other hand, this chapter got some fanservice-y stuff that I have mixed feelings about.

While yes it can be seen as general fanservicey stuff but here it's not that. It has a purpose and that is to show how ridiculous women's armour in these games are.
When it comes to fanservice I am actually one of the most sensitive person and most of the time it makes me drop the series. But here it was necessary to show.

Yeah, I kinda thought that was the case, but still.

So wait...you're unhappy that they're showing something in order to critique it? Also part of the world building is critiquing that it has become normalized and that the MC thinks nothing of the armor, instead she simply thinks "it's female armor", without knowing and realizing things could be better. The narrative should make you happy if you dislike fanservice, and I fail to understand how they could critique this type of female armor and the extreme normalization of it in this world without showing it.

IF it's done right I don't personally I don't have a problem with fanservice in certain media, some people enjoy wearing clothing and gear that shows off more skin, both men and women. The classic male barbarian loincloth that shows off his muscles and chest, muscular legs and so fourth. I think the armor is often not practical, but if a person wants to wear an outfit that shows off their body it should be their choice.

I absolutely loathe the idea that everything to do with sexuality is some kind of evil thing, and that people who choose to wear more exposing outfits are being sexist against themselves. So my problem with this series is that it so far lacks any kind of nuance. It should be a normalized thing for both men and women to wear whatever the hell they want and whatever works for them. A man wants to run around in a rainbow banana hammock? More power to him. A woman wants to run around in full plate armor? More power to her.

Edit: Also I'm very aware that cartoonish sexism exists in real life, but the extreme and radical sexism that this entire world is built on feels beyond cartoonish. I would absolutely love more series that critique sexism, but I want them to have some kind of nuance as well.

last edited at Jun 30, 2021 3:45PM

Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017

"Let's start as friends"

By yuri law, this means what I think it does now.

Next they'll be roommates!

FluffyCow
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Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017
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Haha well I think Tomimi needs to confess because Gavial is either dense or feigning ignorance as Random said. Also was the missile too far? Or not far enough? :P

Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017

Mh, the abrupt developments in their relationship feel a bit clunky to me, but if it's just setting things up for some fun, it might be okay ...

For me the developments weren't abrupt. If I had to guess the demon probably doesn't have many actual friends. The popular girl in class that doesn't have real friends is a somewhat common trope, and we've seen it on this site before. It was also pointed out that she took an interest in the angel before this, and was aware of her hard work. Giving me the impression that she was building up to the friendship confession for a bit now.

As for the angel? It was stated that she has no friends, gets bullied constantly, and desperately seeks praise. So her flipping over to wanting to be friends with the demon made sense to me. That warm and fuzzy feeling when she heard that the demon had noticed her hard work made her putty in the demon's hands.

Plus ultimately it's a cute little comedy series, nothing to take too seriously imo lol

last edited at Jun 29, 2021 3:29AM

Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017

What an interesting manga. This will be wholesome.

Btw, The author tag ch 1 and 2 as yuri but he/she did not tag it since ch 3. In my opinion, I don't think that this manga will be yuri because some ecchi artist have a different definition of Yuri than us. Well, I'm sure it will be a good manga no matter what.

Oh I missed that, thanks for the heads up! Well maybe there is an inkling of hope yet, but yeah I agree that this still probably won't be Yuri.