I still find it hilarious that the 4th sister is by far the most experienced of the siblings. She strait up freaked out that something must be seriously wrong for her girl friend to turn down having sex right there on the spot.

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gay but married mother tropes is annoying.

More likely bi. All of the bi women I know ended up married to guys eventually.

I'm surprised nobody has commented on that scene in the movies where Kasumi made the initiative to grab Sakarako's hand. It's one of the only times we have ever seen Kasumi instigate physical affection. Usually it's Sakurako who is all over Kasumi. It's cute that Kasumi has started reciprocating.

It even looked like she was a bit annoyed that Sakurako wouldn't do it on her own lol
Also she kept watching her instead of the movie~

Yeah, I am always on the look out for any sort of sign that Kasumi's love for Sakarako might have a romantic dimension to it and that scene at the movies is the best evidence I can remember seeing suggesting she really is starting to feel that way. It was really adorable.

Isn't Kasumi just too lazy to admit it? I mean she seems like the type to just go with the flow and let Sakarako lead.

Yeah, she has such a chill personality that it's hard to tell if she is just going along with the flow because she simply doesn't mind accommodating Sakarako's advances so long as they don't inconvenience her or if she actually does feel some level of romantic attraction for her and actively wants that attention.

That's why the scene at the movies really stuck out to me. It actually provides some evidence that Kasumi really does like doing things like holding hands and she even preferred to watch Skarako over the movie. Those are both things she did not just because she was going with the flow, but because she truly desired to do so of her own volition.

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I'm surprised nobody has commented on that scene in the movies where Kasumi made the initiative to grab Sakarako's hand. It's one of the only times we have ever seen Kasumi instigate physical affection. Usually it's Sakurako who is all over Kasumi. It's cute that Kasumi has started reciprocating.

It even looked like she was a bit annoyed that Sakurako wouldn't do it on her own lol
Also she kept watching her instead of the movie~

Yeah, I am always on the look out for any sort of sign that Kasumi's love for Sakarako might have a romantic dimension to it and that scene at the movies is the best evidence I can remember seeing suggesting she really is starting to feel that way. It was really adorable.

Which chapter is this???

Chapter 34.

Why do all the cool kids smoke in Japan... It's so gross.

Didn't you get the memo? Smoking is how normal people become cool people.

No no no ... .NOP nope nope nope nope nooo ... no no no

Not to worry. So long as she remembers to bring her trusty ashtray with her she'll be alright. No one puts ashtray senpai in the corner!

Ashtray senpai returns.

Chiaki is like one of those characters you find in certain stories -- who can do whatever they want, and nothing ever turns out bad for them. Everyone reads all the things they do in a positive way. They are like made of teflon: bad consequences just don't stick to them.

Chiaki would be like that, except for her big mouth. ^_^ Why, she had Harumi at her feet and about to declare her love! But then Chiaki opened her mouth and, as always, screwed up everything.

I think that might be what actually makes Chiaki likable. She is such a guileless dork about her love of Harumi's boobs. If she was more cunning or sly about it she would come off as creepy, but instead she has a very child like sense of wonder and strait forwardness about the whole thing.

I'm surprised nobody has commented on that scene in the movies where Kasumi made the initiative to grab Sakarako's hand. It's one of the only times we have ever seen Kasumi instigate physical affection. Usually it's Sakurako who is all over Kasumi. It's cute that Kasumi has started reciprocating.

It even looked like she was a bit annoyed that Sakurako wouldn't do it on her own lol
Also she kept watching her instead of the movie~

Yeah, I am always on the look out for any sort of sign that Kasumi's love for Sakarako might have a romantic dimension to it and that scene at the movies is the best evidence I can remember seeing suggesting she really is starting to feel that way. It was really adorable.

What's with all that hitting between girls? Is that some kind of stupid trend? That kinda ruins the mood. Why would you ever want to hit your girl? The one you love above all things! Damn that's insane (

A significant percentage of households feature regular physical violence between family members although I imagine it is a bit more rare in Japan since violent crime as a whole is less common there. Also there is a huge difference between a slap vs serious domestic violence were lasting harm is the norm. Having said this, I completely agree. You should never strike your loved ones.

I'm really liking this one so far.

Sad. Either route this manga goes is bad. Unrequited lesbian love vs. Wife who cheats. Meh.

Then the Wife Who Cheats agrees to elope with you, and, when she asks where the two of you should go, your reply is: "To the Moon."

I wonder how many of y'all can identify that reference. ^.^

You are referring to Jacky Gleason's famous euphemism for beating his wife Alice. Dark, but kinda funny

On a happier note. I really like this manga. Its adorable and it's somewhat fresh to see a non-bitter story of unrequited love.

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I'm surprised nobody has commented on that scene in the movies where Kasumi made the initiative to grab Sakarako's hand. It's one of the only times we have ever seen Kasumi instigate physical affection. Usually it's Sakurako who is all over Kasumi. It's cute that Kasumi has started reciprocating.

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So, how is the anime? Animation quality didn't look too good...

It’s wonderfully gay and the animation quality is good too (imo)

they made it even more gay then the manga

I'm noticing that with a lot of the "girlship" anime lately.

I've seen it go both ways. For instance Harukana Receive was much gayer in the manga, and so was Release the Spice if I remember right. It seems to depend on who is in charge of the production.

Now that I think of it, why do Takebe and Soramori look permanently serious/bothered/annoyed? People mentioned Takebe does right in the first page, but Soramori does too.

Because they are.

At this point I'd say it's outright undeniable that Sakurako has romantic feelings for Kasumi. From my point of view, it seems like Kasumi is still slowly cluing in to just what her relationship with Sakurako has exactly become however.

Yeah, like when Kasumi reads Sakurako's psychology book and realizes they have a lot of matching items just like couples do. Although, Kasumi has already said she wants to marry Sakurako, so... take it as you wish.

That's pretty much how I see it as well. Sakurako is head over heals in love with Kasumi and not just as friends. We see her constantly thinking about how attractive Kasumi is and she is even quite aggressive when it comes to physical affection. For instance she strait up kissed/mauled Kasumi that one time when she was drunk.

Kasumi on the other hand shows no signs of of sexual interest in Sakurako or anyone else for that matter. She really is just completely apathetic in that regard. We've never even seen her so much as have a passing thought that another person is good looking let alone act on it.

I think it can however be said that if there is anyone in the world she could have a romantic inclination towards, it's Sakurako. It's hard to tell since Kasumi has such a chill personality to begin with, but she appears to be either asexual or just has a very minimal sex drive. It is highly unusual for a highschool aged girl to show no interest at all in romance and dating or even just casual attraction for that matter. It is however clear she really does love Kasumi even if the signs suggest it might only be platonic.

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Come to think about it, Arisa would make a great politician. She's already completely uninterested about anything that's not furthering her own agenda.

She would fail miserably due to being way too honest. In the world of politics there is no sin greater than truthfully speaking one's mind.

I can understand why this chapter changes focus, but I am still somewhat annoyed because it means there still may be one or more chapters before the actual conclusion. If I were able to read it all at once, I'm sure it would come off great, and build anticipation, but since we have to wait for release and translation, it sort of leaves me frustrated. Im thinking it might be better to just wait until the conclusion is finally out and read it all at once.

I would be very surprised if we see an ending in less than 4 more chapters. My guess is it will be even more than that,

Other than the chapters being too short this one's fun.

I knew Shovel kun wouldn’t betray Kurumi chan. But noooooo, not Smoker chan. She was the only legal waifu :/

The way she stuck her hand in that infected blood. Shovel kun is next in line to dance with the reaper. =(

I'm kind of getting the impression that this is the final stage of maturity for beastkin. Have we ever encountered or even heard of an adult beastkin? Or male beastkin for that matter? Presumably they must exist, unless they reproduce through parthenogensis or are the offspring of some unholy union between human and animal.

Maybe they just naturally stop developing when they're at the level of a 12-year-old child (both physically and mentally) in which case it would make a lot of sense for there to be a law against human-beastkin romance, since any sexual relations with a beastkin would consequentially be child abuse.

I originally kind of thought that the setting either wasn't really thought out or was just a vague excuse for the animal-ear-loli X onee-san plot to happen. But as human-beastkin relations become a major plot point and more details are revealed, I wonder if there isn't more to it than that.

We have very little evidence to go by as to whether or not Mel is full grown. In one hand we have the orphanage type place Mel grew up where it is common practice for a beastkin to be judged mature enough to be released from the orphanage's custody to go out into the world and work as servants at around age 10 or 12. This somewhat suggests they might be considered young adults at this age and they may be pretty close to full grown.

On the other hand we had the editor lady warning Master about pedophilia in respects to Mel at one point which definitely suggests she is not a full fledged adult yet. There is also the fact that Mel acts rather child like and seems quite naive when it comes to romantic feelings. All these things point to her being still quite young even by beastkin standards.

It may also be that beastkin always remain a bit childlike compared to humans. It is a bit odd we haven't seen any signs of beastkin that look more like adult humans do. The editor also made a comment about how if there was ever a romance between a human and a beastkin it would be the human that would be seen as a pervert who took advantage of the beastkin which suggests that maybe beastkin are a bit child like even as adults and are not seen as having full agency even when fully matured. We have no way of knowing if a 10 year old beastkin is basically the same as a 10 year old human or if they do in fact mature differently than we do.

My personal guess is similar to yours. I think that beastkin may mature slightly faster than humans do and are considerably smaller and more child like in stature than us even when full grown. Even if you look at Mel and compare her to a 10 or 12 year old human girl she is tiny. Seriously if you really take a look at her compared to master she doesn't even come up to her waist. Not even close. Even if Master is a giant of a women standing in at like 6ft tall, which I don't think is the case, that would mean Mel is like 3 feet high. She is like the size of a 4 year old.

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I really don't understand the point of bothering to identifying oneself as agender to others. Basically, this just means the person has no sense of gender and thus is completely indifferent to gender rolls and what society sees them as, right? So basically if they are completely indifferent and neutral when it comes to the idea of gender then they can pretty much just roll with whatever is easiest and fits the situation best aka if they are physically male they would use the guys bathroom. They would also have no objection to society treating them as male because the entire idea of gender rolls are just meaningless to them.

It's not that they see gender roles as meaningless or are indifferent to them but that they don't fit into either male or female. For many agender people, being perceived as male and being perceived as female are both distressing, and they don't want to be thought of or treated as either. To put it another way, it's not that they don't care, but that they care about not being male and they also care about not being female.

Well first
1. Agender people are trans since they still don't identify as assigned gender.
2. Not always, I don't want to be perceived as male but I am not female. Most of my dysphoria is over not being feminine enough but I find the idea of checking a box for gender so obnoxious, I don't participate in gender.
3. One reason the insistence on only writing trans women being with cis men is toxic, is that we aren't all straight. I'm a trans lesbian and proud. And trust me that's the vast majority of trans literature written by cis people

I don't understand. Doesn't agender simply mean without gender? If you care about how others perceive your gender doesn't that mean you have one you prefer to think of yourself as, whatever that might be? If you don't think of yourself as having a gender then why would it matter what other people think? In the end the opinions of others are meaningless anyway.

I am perhaps unusual in that gender rolls and cliches have always appeared pretty much meaningless to me. I mean they are completely imaginary to begin with. What makes one behavior masculine and another feminine? Gender rolls are nothing more than stereo types to begin with so why are people so hung up on the idea? Just because somebody doesn't match a stereo type doesn't mean they are somehow any less a part of that group nor should they care if they are or not. It would be a bit like claiming somebody isn't really British because they don't like tea or have a dry sense of humor etc.

I guess for most people gender stereo types are some sort of deeply wired part of their ego or personality so it's somehow a huge emotional deal if they don't conform to that stereotype? I guess the question to ask is for most people is it normal to care if others view your behavior as being more like that of the gender that is opposite of what you identify yourself to be and if so why?

For me it has always just been pretty much meaningless which is why I just don't understand why some people are so caught up in those rolls and how other's see them that it can have life shattering and tragically devastating consequences. I guess for most people their gender is like some really important part of their sense of self? Why is that? What is it like?

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Why is the beastkin part more important than the fact Mel is a CHILD.
Or do beastkin stay that size forever here?

She is by human age standards a young adolescent, but we actually don't have any clue if beastkin live the same sort of life cycle we do. They may actually be substantially shorter lived and smaller than humans. The only clue we have is that the orphanage type place Mel came from believes beastkin are mature enough and ready for the world by the time they are like 10 or 12. There is no way to be sure that this is the actual age of maturity for them or just an age where they are old enough to be semi useful as servants.

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Uh... well, of those I read, I liked 3: Bloom Into You (obviously), Citrus and Girl Friends... so, uh, maybe something similar-ish?

I just realized how my undecidedness, insecurity and anxiety are now showing for y'all to see...

You've read some of the more mainstream yuri titles so here are some more relatively well written vanilla yuri titles.

Kase-san
Aoi Hana
Sasameki Koto
Poor Poor Lips

It really depends what you are into or not. I purposely left out some of the darker and more mature and explicit stories since some people don't like them and I don't know how old you are. The same goes for various taboos like age gap etc. although you did read Citrus so maybe I shouldn't have worried about excluding taboo stuff.

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This is one of the dumbest series on here.

I think is the opposite, one of the smartest. The author has clearly made a lot of search for present something that can help to understand more easily the difference between the agender, the transgender and the crossdresser.
It's educational and entertaining, a little bit as the comic of the famous author Sophie Labelle (which i recommand highly for understand the trans reality).

I really don't understand the point of bothering to identifying oneself as agender to others. Basically, this just means the person has no sense of gender and thus is completely indifferent to gender rolls and what society sees them as, right? So basically if they are completely indifferent and neutral when it comes to the idea of gender then they can pretty much just roll with whatever is easiest and fits the situation best aka if they are physically male they would use the guys bathroom. They would also have no objection to society treating them as male because the entire idea of gender rolls are just meaningless to them.

The only time it might come up is if somebody ever pointed out that the agender guy does more "girly" things than a typical dude, but that is hardly unique to being agender. I'm sure most males have experienced at some point stupid macho ribbing from their peers for doing something that's kind of "sissy." I guess if the guy did something like dress up like a girl there might be a need to explain at times, but if the guy is truly agender he likely wouldn't dress as a girl because he would have no particular desire to act feminine since such a thing is meaningless to him and the fact he would suffer social stigmas would make it less appealing than dressing as a dude since he doesn't care either way.

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