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wth is the tag "yuri crush"

is this yuri or not

Neeko's friend has a romantic crush on her, but we don't know if it is reciprocated, and they aren't in a relationship, and the series isn't about them as a couple.

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"I wike them too"
of course you're gonna be treated like you're not into guys, then, like one of the bros
dude is pretty chill

In fairness, she could have been suggesting she likes the sweaters, and wishes she could fill one out.

He -is- pretty chill, but he is also kind of dense.

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(Side note, I see I'm not the only one that thinks back to this series every time a new chapter of "Our Days Under One Roof" is released.)

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Yeah, Honestly, I get wanting to support official releases, so I can respect discontinuing a translation because the work was licensed, but if they're not going to -use- the license, and are just going to sit on it without publishing anything, then kinda fuck 'em?

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But for the record, if this were taking place in the States, that little boob-touch and kiss in the changing room could well land Aizawa on the sex offender registry for sexual assault and corruption of a minor. I'm not a lawyer working in Japan, or an expert in japanese consent laws, but I know that with matters of law it's usually not a good idea to make uninformed assumptions. It's probably better to assume risk and be wrong.

The age of consent in Japan, even at it's absolute highest, cannot be above 18. And according to the charts, at 18 there is no limitation to the age of the partner either. Assuming Misumi is 18 (which we established highly likely) there is not a single thing to be concerned about in regard to her kissing or groping her girlfriend who clearly consents.

Misumi is 16 as of the start of the series, and I believe it has been far less than a year since then. At best she's 17, she may actually still be 16.

Also, Yoshioka has raised concern about criminal charges at least twice, and Aizawa expressed the same concern after Misumi slept in the futon with her.back in chapter 5. If the characters in-universe are raising the concern, I don't think it's too far-fetched.

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Is it not? Quite a few people have insinuated a jail visit for Ai-san here already.

It is the habit of a number of Dynasty readers to invoke jail/visits from the FBI/other legal authorities every time there’s an age gap story involving a minor.

Whether they are serious or not, I get the strong impression that these invocations are not based on much technical knowledge of how likely a criminal prosecution would be in any given case.

Well, this chain started on me making a comment about jail time, and for the record, yeah, it was a bit tongue in cheek and I don't think it's likely that Aizawa has done anything illegal at this point. My point was more that this isn't the kind of series where anybody ends up in jail, because this is a romcom, and everybody in this series is well-intentioned and at worst a bit eccentric.

But for the record, if this were taking place in the States, that little boob-touch and kiss in the changing room could well land Aizawa on the sex offender registry for sexual assault and corruption of a minor. I'm not a lawyer working in Japan, or an expert in japanese consent laws, but I know that with matters of law it's usually not a good idea to make uninformed assumptions. It's probably better to assume risk and be wrong.

And it's not just a matter of Aizawa going to jail. If Misumi's parents turned out to be bigoted assholes, they could seriously ruin her life without ever getting the police involved.

I wanna reiterate, I am not talking about what is going to happen in the story. This is a lighthearted romantic comedy. Aizawa is going to go confront the parents, and they're going to be bewildered but well meaning, and she'll probably win them over with her sincerity because she earnestly wants to enable Misumi's art and support her. It's a cute romcom, not an angsty drama.

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Hang on, wait, wait, wait. I've sat still for a lot of perversion around Dynasty, but that's just wrong. You don't do strawberries in whisky! Brandy, certainly. Rum maybe. Grand Marnier, absolutely. Vodka if you have nothing better. NOT whisky. Whisky is not a "strawberries" kind of alcohol.

Idk, strawberry taste notes aren't unheard of in whiskey, so it's not like the idea is completely out there. Actually, Glenlivet does have its fair share of fruitiness to it together with vanilla and a general smoothness that I can see this actually kinda working, which surprised me. Mangaka actually did their research methinks

Well, manga like this are almost always a blatant expression of the author's personal hobbies.

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This is a catastrophically bad idea.

I mean, I'm sure it won't end in prison, this isn't that kind of series, but I mean, "caution to the wind" doesn't really do this justice.

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Calling it now, Shimamura won't be there

Sorry, that's a miss. The "Shimamura" at the end is this one:

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/adachi_and_shimamura_moke_ver_ch19_5#23

This issue was filling in Adachi's perspective on the previous chapter.

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Eh, that makes no use of the time travel conceit at all, though. And how is that less of a "copout" than my suggestion? Your ending is just my ending with extra steps.

No, in my ending Saki takes her life into her own hands, in yours All the key things just happens to her. She is not the same ego as nana

No, she explicitly makes a choice to let her younger self be happy, and then she unexpectedly benefits because she is her younger self's older self. It's a karmic payoff for not being selfish.

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For me, it was the fact that they used her brother's sperm that puts me off. It feels like its not Arisa's child but her brother's. would have been better if they adopted one or something. Then I would have been all for it.

So what other people have said, but also, then we wouldn't have the hilariously uncomfortable situation of Arisa asking him for it.

Because you know she gave him no warning. Just "Hey bro would you jerk off in this container for me? I wanna get Mari pregnant!" and then her staring expectantly until he kicks her out of the room.

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Honestly I pretty much guarantee the ending will be something along the lines of "Older Nanasawa decides to let go of Seto for the sake of her younger self, and is subsequently transported back to her own time where she is now in a relationship with Seto in the present.

Personally i think that would be a copout ending, having the Timeline sort All the closure out wouldnt be satisfying

I think she is gonna be sent back to her time in that playground and she is gonna seek out old seto and confess herself along with helping her revive her acting dream (and Call her a love virgin since that seto has litterally never experianced it)

Not the most inspired ending as it has been done many times in the past But i think it would suit this the best

Eh, that makes no use of the time travel conceit at all, though. And how is that less of a "copout" than my suggestion? Your ending is just my ending with extra steps.

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the baby ruined the entire story for me... seriously? why ending it ike a stupid het story?! they where perfect together and author ruined it with a baby?! ... why does everything have to become a desapointment... it started so good. and arisa is now rising her nephew... great ending!

Are homosexual couples not allowed to have children or something? Why is that such a bad thing?

it's not about that it's about the story itself. it started original only to end like ANY cliche stories. it feels like any smelly cliche with the stupid ending "without having children you can't be happy". when that couple until the end, ALMOST managed to show the opposite, it just fall flat with that stupid ending. and i'm not speaking about how forced and out of the blue that felt!

I know, that fucking common-ass cliché where two women have a baby together. Why if I had a nickel for every time I've seen this tired and clichéd plot, I'd have possibly 15 cents! I think.

10 for sure.

Including this one.

?????

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No I wasn't thinking that. That would have been against the rules.

Well, exactly! Breaking the rules would be quite unthinkable.

The rule says it can't require her to undress. But if she can get Michiru to undress her, then she doesn't have to undress herself.

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Nanasawa's distinguishing trait, so you can recognize her with even with her bleached/dyed hair and mature body, is her somewhat crossed eyes. I thought that was symbolic or for effect - it's a comedy - but I think that's how you can really tell they're the same person. Although Seto Aya looked that way once, admittedly.

going back in time to cuck yourself, nice.

Let's correct that to going back in time to **** yourself

Also, if everyone's rooting for young Nanasawa, I am going to defend older Nanasawa. She's very believable, indeed. She deserves a space next to Seto-sempai, too.

Honestly I pretty much guarantee the ending will be something along the lines of "Older Nanasawa decides to let go of Seto for the sake of her younger self, and is subsequently transported back to her own time where she is now in a relationship with Seto in the present.

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From the amount of trans setup put into Kita's storyline, I still don't know why some people still think she would be a crossdresser at this point

hold up; possible explanation, kid is transbian.

all hail SillieHonka, the prophecy is true

At this point, sure. That female-bodied inner self is definitely making it explicit. Before this chapter, I would have said it's likely, but the author could have taken it either direction. (Especially since they have before. There was a cross dressing character in their previous series who never presented or identified as trans)

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What's with the weird token yuri? Romance is not a focus of the story, their relationship doesn't have any shipping material, the editor MC tries her hardest to deny that they're in a relationship even in private. Yet it ends on a kiss out of nowhere?

Not that I would ever want less yuri in any work ever, but maybe the author could put more legwork in making their relationship less ... platonic, I guess. Now it just seems like it's trying too hard to be tagged yuri or not be called baits.

Yeah, sure, they were basically married for like a year and literally everybody they know insists that they're a couple (not just in a teasing sense, we got inner thoughts here, they are all fully committed to the ship) but yeah, the kiss is "out of nowhere" apparently. ;p

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This chapter was great and all, but are we going to just ignore the fact that they did the big dramatic "Now we're going to talk about the scar!" and then . . . didn't actually talk about the scar?

The chapters bounce back and forth between the two time periods, I imagine the next chapter is going to literally show us how she got the scar.

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I just read the oneshot...it is like a condensed version of this. I like it tho, they didn't try too much,well 5 months, that's subjectively long.
But, good lesson, do not date someone just because it's convenient and it's the only other "dateable" person you know. :v

I think giving it a shot ain't that bad, having it be slowly sinking for months and not breaking it off is

Yeah, I mean, there's nothing wrong with "I enjoy being around this person, let's see how we do romantically."

And at the time, Miwa honestly thought she'd never see Shiho again, so it's not unreasonable for her to assume she'll get over that and move on with Saeko. But it isn't going to work as long as Miwa is carrying a torch. Saeko clearly wants to be special to somebody, and right now Miwa's treating her like a consolation prize.

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Miwa, honey, sweetie pie, relationships aren't supposed to be transactional like that......

Technically speaking they are transactional, no matter what ppls says everyone deep inside wants their feelings to be sort of "payed" by the other part and for a relationship to succeed each part must return others feelings, but you cant force them to do such thing, they have to do it on their own sooooo yeah its complicated XD

That isn't what they mean by transactional. Relationships aren't about paying someone back for liking you. If you're with someone because you feel like you owe them something for being nice to you, that isn't healthy. You should be in a relationship because you enjoy being in the relationship.

Sure, a relationship has to be -balanced-, but that's not the same thing as transactional. It's fine to want and expect both people in a relationship to share feelings toward one another, it's not good if one person feels like they're morally obligated to love the other person.

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I like Miwa and Saeko but their whole relationship makes me feel uneasy. Like, they started dating because it was convenient. I don't even know if they really like each other in that way. To me, it's like their relationship is more physical than emotional. It kinda feels like there's no solid foundation for their relationship, you know what I mean?

And what makes me even more uncomfortable is that they just don't fucking communicate. I know being honest is hard sometimes but if they just keep acting like there's nothing wrong, then it's gonna blow up on them sooner or later. If they manage to talk things out and somehow end up together in the end, then I'll be happy with that but right now, I kinda want them to break up and just date other people because they don't seem to be a good match.

I really like Shiho too. Aside from the angst of unsaid feelings and being ghosted, they really helped each other and generally just gets along well together. If Miwa and Saeko really does break up, I can see them being good friends after the awkwardness has settled down.

Honestly I've said before they give the vibe of that one couple that breaks up and gets together over and over. I think Miwa's still too hung up on her old crush. She needs to explore her feelings about that a bit more seriously rather than trying to ignore it because she wants to be loyal to Saeko. I'm not saying she should cheat, mind you, but right now all she's doing is running from her feelings out of obligation, and that isn't gonna serve either of them.

Saeko, for her part, is carrying a pretty serious torch for Miwa, but her mannerisms and behavior seem to have Miwa convinced that her feelings aren't that deep.

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Spoil me on the reason why they broke up

In this new series, (as opposed to the one-shot) they break up mostly because Saeko starts to feel like she's more invested in the relationship than Miwa is. Saeko is really into Miwa, but Miwa acts largely like their relationship is something she owes to Saeko. That said, the breakup is not the end of the series and they have a strong vibe of "that one couple that breaks up and gets back together over and over" so I doubt it's gonna stick.

The author has said that they wanted to tell a story that doesn't end with the characters getting together, to explore the drama that comes after breakups and the different kinds of drama that can come with relationships. Whether that means we're ultimately heading for them getting back together, or ending as friends, or going their separate ways entirely remains to be seen.

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Spoil me on the reason why they broke up

In the oneshot it was because Saeko cheated on Miwa and that led to them talking it out and parting on good terms.

She didn't cheat, she just had somebody else she was starting to like. They broke up in the one shot largely because Miwa didn't think their relationship had a real emotional connection.

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Credits page of chapter 240 “That’s not how we reheased it”? Did you mean rehearsed?

The implication in the gag is that the young girl is acting at Eli's direction.

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Is painting dishes like this safe? And is the paint durable enough to endure multiple washes?

Generally, yeah, the paint can chip and scratch if you aren't careful with them. I think you can apply a laquer to provide extra protection, but you'd have to google the specifics.