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Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

Yurim was so useless. Why build up a background story if it amounts to nothing in the end?

And Sian got away scot free with setting up the whole thing.

I think to make the mess complete, Sian and Yurim should go and complain to the teacher about beng bullied by Soha. That would add insult to injury.

Oh god.

If this actually happened, that means the title wasn't referring to Gayoon being Soha's pet, it was actually Yurim and Soha playing as Sian's pets! The horror.

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joined Mar 22, 2014

Also, it should be noted that the two series that are being animated both have to do with breaking taboos. I wonder why they chose to animate this theme in particular.

It has nothing to do with theme. They're just the best selling series in the magazine after YrYr. In fact, had it been done last year, maybe we would get a Yuri Danshi anime instead of NTR.
I don't think it would be better received.

Ahh, is that so? My bad then. In that case, it seems like the readers are really thirsty for drama, LOL.

Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

All the signs are pointing to a Yuma x Hotaru end, in my opinion. Yuma's starting to understand her own feelings and she's probably the only one who can "fix" Hotaru's behavior, so to speak. Fujiwara's really only there to cause a whole bunch of havoc and Takeda seems to be the key figure to helping Yuma find out what she really wants.

I can only imagine that the manga will end with either a Yuma x Hotaru pairing or perhaps they'll go their separate ways on good terms or something.

Also, it should be noted that the two series that are being animated both have to do with breaking taboos. I wonder why they chose to animate this theme in particular.

last edited at Nov 17, 2016 7:20AM

Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

Don't really understand why Yurim was satisfied with getting beat to a pulp. I'm assuming it's because she always wanted to truly see who was the strongest out of the two without any rules or regulations holding them back, but I just don't remember if they ever talked about that being the basis of Yurim's problem....or they did explain everything in Yurim's pointless backstory that I completely erased out of my mind.

Lol Faust I always thought you purposely posted the links late as a way to encourage people to purchase the chapter if they couldn't wait.

Well, regardless, the whole Yurim arc was pretty ridiculous. There were other ways to go about making Soha realize that she wasn't treating Gayoon like a human being (and as a friend, for that matter), but instead, we ended up spending half of the series exploring the mind of Yurim... and I can honestly say as every chapter went by, I understood her character less and less.

Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

Praise Faust, haha. Even I'm a bit moved by how many people came here to show their support :')

Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

I had planned on stopping actually, no one seemed to be enjoying it anymore. Admittedly, it doesn't feel great to update something that seems hated.
I asked last time, if anyone actually went to look for the updates, and no one said anything. I had planned not to post ch65 but seems like I absentmindedly did, pasted the link out of habit. Really weirds me out, I remember thinking not to, but then it looks like I did? Anyways.
Give a shout if there's still an interest, and I'll go dig for a link.

Oh wait, 66 is already out?! Where have I been this week...

I think there are still several people that are determined to see the manhwa through though, haha.

Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

From were do you get the links to the chapters? I need chapter 66

The English translations are released every Monday on Lezhin. Someone's just doing everyone else a favor by sharing the chapters weekly.

The English releases are still ongoing, but the manhwa actually finished with chapter 72 not too long ago (in case you're wondering).

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joined Mar 22, 2014

Miman? That's a name I haven't seen in a while. Love their work :')

Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

I'm not a fan of Netsuzou Trap or Citrus, but I doubt the Japanese care about what us overseas fans think. As long as they're buying it, we're not important. In any case, I think this is a great step forward for yuri in general because we've seen so little of it in anime thus far. Of course, I'd personally much rather see something like AnoKiss, YagaKimi or perhaps something like Okujou no Yurirei-san and Flowers get adapted (although that's just wishful thinking on my part), haha.

Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

^^ Apparently a short crossover between YagaKimi and "Happy Sugar Life", sold for a day at Animate, Gamers, Toranoana and Melonbooks.

Weird combination that one.

Pfft, I mean, both stories are about the MCs hiding some sort of secret that prevent them from living happily ever after with their respective partners :^)

Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

Wouldn't mind that as an ending tbh. Like you said, Touko is way too self-centered to notice or even care about Yuu's feelings at this point. She almost went fucking mental when Yuu said that she was happy with Touko's company. Still, i think she's going to go through some character development to became a better person for Yuu. At least thats what my yuri loving heart hopes.

Yeah, it bothers me that Touko probably considers their whole relationship as just another fun thing to experience for the sake of her own growth. Touko really gives me this "company president" feeling with her popularity status and how she behaves around other people, haha.

And I mean, one of the best parts about falling in love with someone (whether it's reciprocated or not) is that it sometimes motivates you to further improve yourself.

Ahh, but I really can't see how Touko could become less self-centered with their current circumstances. Again, as it is right now, Touko always picks the actions that benefit herself the most with very little consideration of other people (e.g. when she picked Yuu over Sayaka for the campaign). It seems kind of hard to change that selfish way of thinking.

But hey, if Touko can actually come around and truly love Yuu instead of use her for the thrill of the chase, I think it would be great. What I'm really afraid of is if Touko suddenly loses interest in Yuu, because it seems entirely possible based on her nature.

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joined Mar 22, 2014

This is kind of a long shot and perhaps a farfetched idea, but seeing how the 花言葉 (lit. flower words) for the 勿忘草 (wasurenagusa/forget-me-not) are "true love" and "memories", maybe the title is literally saying "Don't forget about true love and past memories"?

As in, Kyouko tried to pierce Hana's ears so Hana wouldn't ever forget about her. She wanted to force her way into Hana's life by turning the girl's ears into a reminder of their time together. Err, still, it wasn't a very rational decision on her part, nor was it very nice. Meanwhile, I'm under the impression that Sayako isn't as interested in the man as she is with Kyouko (I'm suggesting that maaaybe Sayako loves Kyouko, but also likes her husband, though not as much) Sayako knowing about Hana tells me that she's been there to listen to Kyouko's feelings maany times and to give her a shoulder to lean on. Moreover, Sayako's decision to pierce her own ears might be considered significant as well? The only thing that puts me off is the pregnancy test though. That... kind of destroys my whole theory, so I'll just stop rambling, LOL.

I mean, I have no idea what I'm saying. I'm scrambling to find hints that would make this one-shot not seem as bad as it is.

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Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

^
And I love it. It's selfish, and cruel, and everyone is just so complex and different and I love it. I want to see what they become, how they interact now, compared to after they've grown.
I'm not really adding anything to your point, I agree with you, but the main thing I'm feeling right now is just fascination. Sure Touko can easily be antagonized, she's arguably the most antagonistic character, in a way. She's the one in people's way to be "happy", with or without her, but in a way, from my pov, no one is really dislikable. In each of their ways, they just all want to be happy. It's just that sometimes, they want want/need another person to be a part of it, to achieve it perhaps. And I just can't bring myself to really blame any of them, for wanting different things.
Especially Touko lmfao, goddamn, she has such specific, difficult criteria. It was possibly sweet at first, but we can see that it's starting to really fuck Yuu up, which isn't very desirable, but hnng it's just so interesting tho
Hopefully it's a story with a "happy end", I want to see them all grow, Yuu embrace possible feelings, Touko become sincerely considerate and "looking behind", as you say.
But you know, I'm not sure why we/I didn't see this coming, Touko turning out to be selfish/have a twisted/unusual reason behind her "love". Instantly "falling" for someone after realising that they're "kind" for never having loved, there's something kinda troubling about that, no? Maybe for the sake of not wanting to worry about it, but I hesitate sometimes, does Touko really love Yuu?

It's interesting that at first, you'd think that this would be about how Yuu possibly comes to love Touko, but in reality, it's possible that it's [also] about how Touko comes to actually love Yuu.
Potential, potential, so many questions.
"Bloom into You". Who does the title really refer to? Is it limited to only one character?

I have doubts about Touko's "love" for Yuu. I haven't really seen any traces of care and consideration from Touko's side. She turned their relationship into an all-take-no-give one, and even if her excuse is that she would never expect Yuu to fall in love with her, their friendship feels like it's walking on a tightrope right now. Basically every good relationship/friendship needs both parties to respect each other equally and it has to be give-and-take.

I also really enjoy this series because everyone is so different. The story and how it's executed are both really good. I think Touko is very well-written as a character and I don't dislike her place in the story, nor do I hate how she is being portrayed. However, as a person, I'm not a big fan of hers. As in, if I ever met someone similar to her in real life, I would have mixed feelings about them, so that's my stance on Touko.

Also, I saw a post maybe a couple months ago about how this story could very well be about Yuu coming to understand what the feeling of love is like by being with Touko, but she later directs those feelings to someone else because Touko would never come around. I think that would be an interesting twist to what we've seen up until now, haha.

Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

To give Sayaka a plot arc independent from Touko and Yuu.

+1

A lot of ppl say they ship Sayaka and Touko but tbh, I don't see how Touko won't hurt Sayaka just as badly, or most likely, worse.
The reason Yuu/Touko seems kinda "eeh" is cus like, it's based on something selfish/kinda fucked up isn't it? I can't see Touko loving Sayaka, but if she were to love her for more or less the same reasons she loves Yuu, it'd probs be worse, because Sayaka is pretty much head over heels for her, and is fully conscious of it. I think her feelings are like, more... prominent than what Yuu is starting to feel?
If the series had been about Sayaka and Touko, if Touko didn't reciprocate, it would have just been one of those angsty, one sided love stories and everyone would have been like (。•́︿•̀。)
If Touko somehow loved Sayaka for similar reasons and put her in the same situation of stalemate in which Sayaka can't make it known that she reciprocates, I'd say that people would be like (╯。•́︿•̀。)╯︵ ┻━┻

I feel like the main "problem" in the equation really is Touko herself. In a way, I understand her character and I see what she means, so I'm not too harsh on her, but man, it's still really feelsbad concerning those around her.
I don't think Touko could ever make Sayaka happy, in the way Sayaka wants from her. It'd be best if she could find what she's looking for, without Touko in the picture.

A friend mentioned that the trollest would be for Yuu and Sayaka to get together lmao
That makes me wonder, how Touko owuld feel, if Yuu would, and was able to love another. I wonder if she'd be jealous, heartbroken, or if she'd possibly lose interest just as easily as it was hinted she would, if Yuu were to love her. Because what she liked about Yuu, was her kindness for being unable to love, right? Even if it's not her that Yuu is "shackling", she'd still be loving someone.
It won't happen, but I'm just wondering.

The thing I don't like most about Touko is that she makes everything centered around her. She uses Yuu to "charge her batteries" and get a thrill out of this feeling of "love" that she has never been able to experience before. Touko chose Yuu because Yuu doesn't have the same expectations of Touko as everyone else does and because Yuu doesn't know how to fall in love either. Touko doesn't seem like the type that takes other people into consideration though. I mean, the way she sweet talks Sayaka in one of the earlier chapters during the presidential campaign kind of rubbed off the wrong way for me.

I agree that Touko is essentially the "obstacle" in the story. While Sayaka and Yuu are both more or less in love with Touko, it seems like Touko has her eyes set on self-improvement. In Yuu's case, one could argue that Touko is under the impression that Yuu would never fall in love with her, so it's not Touko's fault if she doesn't catch on. However, Touko doesn't really take the time to look at other people. She doesn't bother to watch Sayaka and she often does things on a whim whenever she feels like it. Although Touko insists otherwise, it almost feels like Sayaka is always chasing after her rather than standing by her side as an equal. Touko is always one step ahead of everyone else, but never bothers to look behind her.

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Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

While I do like Yuu x Touko, I'm not fully convinced when it comes to this pairing. I think it's adorable that Yuu is slowly starting to notice how she views Touko, but it kills me to see her have to keep her feelings locked away. Yuu is trapped in an all-give-no-take relationship where she is forced to tread carefully or risk destroying their friendship (?) entirely. Meanwhile, Touko is able to do whatever she wants freely with no strings attached. She can display her affection towards Yuu and announce her feelings towards her without worrying how it changes their dynamic.

Although I understand it was entirely Yuu's choice to let Touko do whatever she wants and to have entered this kind of unique relationship in the first place, it's really hard to blame her for what she's feeling now. All I can say right now is that Yuu is just stuck between a rock and a hard place.

But the real reason why I don't fully support Yuu x Touko (yet!) is because we don't know nearly enough about Touko. Obviously, since we've been viewing all of these events through Yuu's eyes, we know that her stance on love has gradually changed. Meanwhile, Touko's has remained the same for the most part. She's just having her fun exploring the thrill of being around the one she likes and doing whatever she wants without consequences. I can't blame Touko either because she is under the impression that Yuu is okay with anything. Basically, because I don't know whether or not Touko will change, part of me fears that Touko will never start to think differently about Yuu.

I like Yuu x Sayaka better for weird reasons though. For one, I like the idea that they don't idolize each other like how they both view Touko. I see some room for development for these two, but that would only work if Touko is unable to change the way she thinks of relationships and Yuu. Right now, Touko seems to be very focused on self-development instead of trying to understand the people around her. That kind of selfishness bothers me, even if both Yuu and Sayaka allow it.

I don't know, I'm kind of rambling now, haha.

Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

Yeah, this series has completely turned its focus towards Gayoon getting beat up every other chapter. I understand it's supposed to be some sort of plot device used to get Soha to realize that Gayoon is a separate entity from Happy and that she can't stand to lose her, but the whole execution has been so sloppy. Frankly, Soha could've showed up like three chapters ago and put an end to everything, but instead, Yurim just got more and more screen time. This makes me wonder if the title is actually directed towards Gayoon and Yurim rather than Soha.

Up until this point, most of this series has been about Yurim trying to bait out Soha... Oh dear, what if the title is actually referring to Yurim and Soha?

Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

So am I the only one into Yuu x Sayaka? Haha.

Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

Yep. Again, it really only starts to develop from chapters 71 and onwards. If you want me to be really specific, chapter 79 is where it kind of gets teased. Chapters 82, 84 and 86 expands on it a little bit, and then more hints run all the way until chapters 99-100 (chapter 100 is where my old pic was from), where I believe (I can't read any Korean whatsoever) the blonde haired girl (Nam Yueun) says something akin to a confession to orange/pinkish haired girl (Go Jun, also known as Ginny), although it's not direct.

You read/looked through it all in Korean? o-o Damn, wow
I'm assuming that you've seen good non verbal hints?

With a little help from Google Translator, yes. Although the results I got were super scattered and butchered, I just kind of put it all into context. The manhwa is translated up to chapter 84 on Lezhin, though, but I skimmed the raws first.

Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

Seira wow your pic changed again
Could you link me to the panel/page or a screenshot of the one you had before?

Haha, yeah, I'm indecisive. The pic I have now is the other girl in this ship tease.

Oh, but here's the link: http://raws.yomanga.co/read/unstoppable_siblings/ko/0/100/page/17

Thank you! :D
So, both of your profile pics were the girls in the ship?

Yep. Again, it really only starts to develop from chapters 71 and onwards. If you want me to be really specific, chapter 79 is where it kind of gets teased. Chapters 82, 84 and 86 expands on it a little bit, and then more hints run all the way until chapters 99-100 (chapter 100 is where my old pic was from), where I believe (I can't read any Korean whatsoever) the blonde haired girl (Nam Yueun) says something akin to a confession to orange/pinkish haired girl (Go Jun, also known as Ginny), although it's not direct.

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Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

Seira wow your pic changed again
Could you link me to the panel/page or a screenshot of the one you had before?

Haha, yeah, I'm indecisive. The pic I have now is the other girl in this ship tease.

Oh, but here's the link: http://raws.yomanga.co/read/unstoppable_siblings/ko/0/100/page/17

Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

Seira what's your pic from? It looks potentially familiar to me but I have no idea where it's from

It's from a manhwa called "My Secret Brother", which is available on Lezhin and is still ongoing.

I don't speak a lick of Korean, but the series is mostly het. Though from chapters 71 and onwards, there's kind of a yuri ship tease, so I've been really rolling with it, haha.

EDIT: I should clarify that the pairing in question are actually side characters that are not so heavily involved in the main story after chapter 71... so no, they don't get in the way of the het couple and vice versa.

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Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

This really fucked me up, I only realised what was wrong after saying the words out loud

I read it out loud and couldn't understand why I was stumbling over the words.

I read it again and finally realized it.

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joined Mar 22, 2014

College degree plan? I need me one of those.

Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

After reading this series and Pito's other work, My Joy, I just stopped expecting much from author. To be honest, I was enjoying Her Pet all the way up until the recent chapters. But Yurim's back for like, what, the third time? I feel like I've seen enough of her by now. After seeing her flashbacks, I expected her to mellow out even just by a little bit, but looks like she came back even crazier. It's like revenge fuels her very existence.

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Seira
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joined Mar 22, 2014

I hate this series so much it's terrible but I've invested too much time and money into it to drop it.

You used coins to read this on lezhen? Smh.

Try to search any lezhen manga on google writing the name along with 'u/yuri'. You will find at 6 or 7 thread with link to free chapters

Hey now.

While I'm thankful for the free chapters being uploaded like this, there's nothing wrong with dropping a few coins on Lezhin to support the author/the manhwa market.

That being said, the user must've thought this was a great manga to read in the beginning and then gradually their impressions changed... now it's too late to turn back. :(