Not sure if I've seen this pairing before, but I definitely love it.

I feel like this is one of those artists that does more for the Citrus community than the actual author does haha

All around fantastic and lovely

^I'd like to see that poly route in art sometime

Kitty and Bunny are always very sweet together

I think this calls for a closer bare skin on bare skin inspection.

Very cute

Super hot stuff!

Marine living her best life...err maybe death? But worth it I imagine.

@Lewdholder Yes. It's Choco and Subaru's clothes together outside of the shower, and Choco's tail made a heart on the inside of the shower door. Lots of kinky implication here :)

This was nice, thanks for the translation!

If this was slower paced, it’d be more tragic.

Instead this first chapter feels like a Soap Opera on 10x speed haha

Faster pacing than Sonic the Hedgehog lmao

This chapter gave me the same sort of uncomfortable feeling as previous, but it also is the first really scummy thing she's done. I think the issue is that her scumminess is established as being fairly harmless, but then this less than harmless blackmail is being treated the same. You start with something like this and establish that the character is shitty, then give her an arc to not be, but this is so out of nowhere and seems like it'll be treated the same as everything else.

Yeah I think that's a big part for me as well. Where her actions got worse but the story doesn't seem to act like they have.

Edit: Also to clarify some of my thoughts, the MC instead of bonding with her sister over being gay, or being excited to have a family member like her, instantly uses the opportunity to get money from it. She doesn't hear her sister say "I'll do anything", and respond with saying it's okay she has her sister's back or anything. The narrative cheaply uses her sister being gay as blackmail...so the MC can buy more sex.

Oh I wholeheartedly agree that this would have been the more reasonable approach, but she's not acting like a reasonable person. She's, again, acting like a drug addict, barely shy of actually committing crimes to get her fix.

Edit: actually, blackmail is a crime IIRC, so there goes that.

True enough yeah. I think I have some personal problems with how things progressed and were handled here. It's fine and it is what it is. Every work is going to effect people differently, and it's part of why discussing it and seeing how other people feel is interesting.

This chapter crossed a line for me, I just felt grossed out by the MC blackmailing her sister for being gay. Really disgusting, and it makes me question the author's views of homosexuality, if they think it's easily exploitable or what.

Why would the author perceiving something that is in many cases a sad fact of life be concerning? I don't like the idea of homosexuality being scandalous among family, it's actually a rather foreign concept to me and not something I had to deal with (or rather: felt that it'd have been an issue with my family). Others have very different experiences (see the positive resonance to Making Progress on Yuri Before the Deadline for instance). In far too many families it makes sense for it to be so easily exploitable because the expected consequences of coming out are downright terrifying.

You being grossed out by the MC blackmailing her sister for being gay is a perfectly normal reaction. It is gross, and she's setting herself up for a terrible train crash even moreso than before. Her sister could have been an ally, now she's turning her into an enemy. I'm convinced she'll have a very rough awakening eventually.

I think for me it's a concern because it feels like the author's handling of the progression in this chapter is disingenuous, homosexuality being used as blackmail is a narrative I've seen before it and I know it happens IRL, but with writing like this it feels lazy and it makes me curious what the author's views are as it feels weirdly handled here. I don't think the author is a bad person as I said previously, just their possible intentions make me uncomfortable.

Edit: Also to clarify some of my thoughts, the MC instead of bonding with her sister over being gay, or being excited to have a family member like her, instantly uses the opportunity to get money from it. She doesn't hear her sister say "I'll do anything", and respond with saying it's okay she has her sister's back or anything. The narrative cheaply uses her sister being gay as blackmail...so the MC can buy more sex.

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I'd say she's always been scummy, not so much to the detriment of others (her parents don't suffer because she keeps misappropriating their money), but rather to her own detriment (she's been constantly digging her own grave). She's been a disingenuous, irresponsible slob. Now she's kinda dragging her sister into it. She'd never have ratted her out in the first place, but we know that she's opportunistic and takes every chance to get an advantage. You could say she's acting like a drug addict.

ngl, her face when she heard her sister say "Anything" got me good.

Yeah her being generally scummy was okay until now, but now she's directly hurting a family member in a way that feels uncomfortable and hypocritical. It's now a broken bridge of trust, and it makes the MC go from generally scummy to straight up vile.

Again Makino did not plan this. She basically had someone wave money in front of her face and took it because she was horny. It wasn’t her idea. Her sister just went “don’t tell anyone I’ll give you anything” and her brain went “money…can hire prostitute…get money.” She didn’t come up with some nefarious plot, the money practically fell into her lap and she took the path of least resistance to instant gratification. Is it scummy? Yeah, that’s in the title. But it wasn’t premeditated and she honestly didn’t think of the implications at all because her braincell had one thought: money for prostitute.

I know she didn't come up with a nefarious plot, and I'm aware of the the title of the story. For me it simply crossed a line of comfortability with this chapter.

To play devil’s advocate for Makino, she didn’t really even come up with the idea to “blackmail” her sister. She was going to just talk to her about it, but her sister instantly panicked and treated it like it was blackmail and Makino just said yes instantly to the promise of money. It would have been worse if she had gone straight to blackmail in her head first but it was almost an accident here. Of course it’ll be worse the more she does it.

Don't ask people, especially friends and family, for money to keep their secrets. Regardless of it's the first thing she thought of or not it's still shitty. It also makes the MC into a complete hypocrite.

Also even if the author nonchalantly glosses over this matter and makes it seem like no big deal they've already crossed the bridge.

so it feels like this kind of discussion happens every time a story has something objectionable in it. But like I'm sure there are ways to say "I'm uncomfortable with this kind of storybeat" without trying to make it into a moral failing on the authors part especially because this is fiction and it is in fiction where these stories can exist without the terrible real life implications they can sometimes hold.

So like tldr, you can say that you're uncomfortable without taking it out on the author you know

I am fully aware of that. I often defend authors writing messed up stories. I simply find it bizarre that an author writing a story with a gay protagonist is having that protagonist use being gay against another character, and her sister no less. It comes across as incredibly disingenuous to me, and it makes me question the author's intention in a way that makes me uncomfortable.

yeah, but also the story sure is called "A scummy gap student...." like Makino is really not being set up as a beacon of righteousness, she's supposed to be shitty so if your reaction to her being shitty is like this, then this story might not be for you but also it's not the authors fault that the story is not for you and, there's no reason to make the author seem bad because of it.

I am aware of the title of this story, it just crossed a line with this chapter for me. I never said that this chapter's direction was for me, or that it's on the author to write things I agree with. I was mostly fine with this series until this chapter, 15 chapters were fine and now the 16th one crosses the line for me, so I am saying why I'm uncomfortable here. I'm not going to go harass or bully the author, I know the author doesn't owe me anything. I'm not saying the author is a bad person either, I'm just uncomfortable with their possible intentions here.

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To play devil’s advocate for Makino, she didn’t really even come up with the idea to “blackmail” her sister. She was going to just talk to her about it, but her sister instantly panicked and treated it like it was blackmail and Makino just said yes instantly to the promise of money. It would have been worse if she had gone straight to blackmail in her head first but it was almost an accident here. Of course it’ll be worse the more she does it.

Don't ask people, especially friends and family, for money to keep their secrets. Regardless of it's the first thing she thought of or not it's still shitty. It also makes the MC into a complete hypocrite.

Also even if the author nonchalantly glosses over this matter and makes it seem like no big deal they've already crossed the bridge.

so it feels like this kind of discussion happens every time a story has something objectionable in it. But like I'm sure there are ways to say "I'm uncomfortable with this kind of storybeat" without trying to make it into a moral failing on the authors part especially because this is fiction and it is in fiction where these stories can exist without the terrible real life implications they can sometimes hold.

So like tldr, you can say that you're uncomfortable without taking it out on the author you know

I am fully aware of that. I often defend authors writing messed up stories. I simply find it bizarre that an author writing a story with a gay protagonist is having that protagonist use being gay against another character, and her sister no less. It comes across as incredibly disingenuous to me, and it makes me question the author's intention in a way that makes me uncomfortable.

To play devil’s advocate for Makino, she didn’t really even come up with the idea to “blackmail” her sister. She was going to just talk to her about it, but her sister instantly panicked and treated it like it was blackmail and Makino just said yes instantly to the promise of money. It would have been worse if she had gone straight to blackmail in her head first but it was almost an accident here. Of course it’ll be worse the more she does it.

Don't ask people, especially friends and family, for money to keep their secrets. Regardless of it's the first thing she thought of or not it's still shitty. It also makes the MC into a complete hypocrite.

Also even if the author nonchalantly glosses over this matter and makes it seem like no big deal they've already crossed the bridge.

This chapter crossed a line for me, I just felt grossed out by the MC blackmailing her sister for being gay. Really disgusting, and it makes me question the author's views of homosexuality, if they think it's easily exploitable or what.

Oh my

Looks like they're both enjoying themselves

R.I.P.

Viva La France!