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Klice
Philosophia discussion 01 Nov 11:14
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Whyyyy won't you talk ;_; God damn angsty shit... I love it, but I'm sad.

Damn denial, hit a second time reading the comments... Whelp, yes, need tragedy tags!

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Way better than the original crap

Your insult ain't even original. At least make it funny! It just tastes sour right now... like Citrus... GET IT?!!

Klice
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Damn, I like where this is going, really sweet story.

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about 100 times better than the original

Obligatory cool kid remark 8-°

So...they've started giving each other hickeys? That's definitely an upgrade in the right direction. I was despairing of the two ever finally getting together....

They already did in the main story ;)

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Klice
Her World discussion 31 Oct 13:22
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Thanks Yuri girl for this! It was really, really sweet. I think I've read part of this years back, finally finished it.

Isn't it rape attempt? I was expecting something way worse, but I guess it's enough to keep people sensitive to that thing safe.

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she still gets married?! what the heck?!

How dare they prioritise the good relations and the future of the country over a young lady's love life?!

I love these kind of ninjas stories... I wish there were more here, this one was particularly sweet - I would've loved to read more. Do you guys know good ninja manga with or without yuri?

Klice
Kuroyome discussion 31 Oct 10:40
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Sad there isn't more of this author, both stories were pretty sweet!

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https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/vampire_chan_junior_chan_the_secret#21

Wiggle, wiggle

That poor teacher...

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Klice
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I think I should hold up several chapters before I start to read it again... But it's so good I can't help myself. 4 pages are not enough ;_;

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Klice
Citrus discussion 29 Oct 14:46
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That's one problem as well. I don't know why people thought it was dealt with because of Mei's family, but I'm repeating myself at this point. Yes the previous fiancé was dealt with because he was a jerk and his reputation had been tarnished by Yuzu's speech. So it was temporarily resolved because Mei's still minor, but given her situation and the explanation from Harumin in the first volumes, it's clear the family wasn't going to let this go.

So yeah, she dropped a bomb for dramatic effect, for the better or the worse, but since it makes sense in my head given the context of the story, I don't really see the problem. It had to come back at some point, just like the separation after high school in other romance works - which is foreshadowed by the context or addressed by the characters themselves, which is what is happening right now in Citrus.

I wonder if the reactions would have been the same if Matsuri didn't over react and jumped to conclusions about Mei's situation. Like many said, let's not jump to conclusion ourselves yet!

For the subject of Mei herself, of course she had to know that this was going to be another obstacle but probably wanted to indulge herself in her love for Yuzu. To have some kind of respite after all her soul-searching journey that made her reconsider everything she hold dear (her father, the family, the school, her sentiment) and wanted to be happy. Hence why she wouldn't want to face it or talk about it with Yuzu. That doesn't mean Mei is a double-faced bitch that was playing Yuzu all along, perhaps she rejected fiancé up until now and the grandpa is starting to push it. I always find myself surprised at how harsh and swift people are to pass judgement on characters..

The “interrupted confession” (or any lack of crucial communication between Yuzu and Mei) is also a bit contrived when the principals live together and sleep in the same bed.

That doesn't bother me at all, I think that is purely situational and just to illustrate that the next conflict is interrupting Yuzu and Mei's relation, somehow?

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Klice
Citrus discussion 29 Oct 10:25
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Is there a post missing? I don't get who or what Cannibal is answering to :(

But !

Mei already made her own choices, her grandfather even told her to and she chose to stick to her path.

and

[...] it's a recycle of an old twist that has been over and done with. It's just lazy as fuck writing, what's next?

Yes, and it is her own choices that lead to this very conflict! Getting engaged for reputation purposes aligns with her career choice, that's where the inner conflict intervene : pursue your career life goal or your love life - hopefully, finding a way to make it both work somehow. The setting is the same, the goal is really different.

We wrote about it, but nothing says the grandfather is talking about her love life path and if he was, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't accept her to engage in a lesbian relationship with her step sister.


Mei has always been really reserved about her emotions, putting everything seconds to her duty towards her family and the school. She is changing little by little, accepting herself, letting herself fall for Yuru hard. But old habits die hard, she won't change her personality completely in just one year and half or so.

And now I can't wait to see how she will deal with this!


JUST. LET. THEM. BE. HAPPY.

IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?!

We had some fluffy moments already! I think their happiness looks more and more like an end game than a turning point. Perhaps we'll get like one volume of fluffy stuff with an hopeful end note.

But as drhelsing said, conflict, inner or external, is the core of the story. In my eyes, it makes their love even more powerful, the whole going together in spite of every obstacles.


Also, don't criticise Yuzu. Yuzu is the best girl and the best thing that could happen to Mei! Her only fault was back in vol3-4 and she (gloriously) fixed it at the end of vol4.

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Reverse psychology at its finest.

Klice
Citrus discussion 28 Oct 08:06
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@Nismy Exactly, I wrote about it previously. The delivery may be lacking but the issue makes perfect sense in the context of Mei and her family. While one can argue about the conflict in vol4, this one does come from somewhere.

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It also doesn't help that Touko is older in the prequel than at the start of the first chapter, which makes pinpointing when this is taking place kind of difficult.

Perhaps it's just a mistake, so this is probably a prequel. As TopKoak said, this needs more a sequel than a prequel. Except if the author likes to make us suffer... ;_;

Klice
Kase-san discussion 28 Oct 07:03
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It continues fully there.

Thanks!

Klice
Seasons discussion 27 Oct 19:22
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"I'm not gay though." <- Yeah right.

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This series is glorious.. Is it officially translated somewhere?

Klice
Kase-san discussion 27 Oct 12:18
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Lazy question : Will this continue as it is written "ongoing" or does the story continue fully in Yamada to Kase-san?

Really sweet story anyway, thank you for the translation YP and /u/ <3

Klice
Citrus discussion 27 Oct 10:22
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WHO DID ARRANGE IT AGAIN??!? O_O

If it is indeed happening, I'd say her grandpa or Mei herself.

Edit : That makes me think about people complaining that grandpa said Mei should follow her own way. I think he was definitely talking about her career choice, not her love life. I've read several versions (French, fan and official English), and I don't think the fact that Yuzu was dishevelled on Mei's bed was ever (fully) addressed.

I have the feeling that Mei talked about what Yuzu did out of sisterly love (save her from a bad marriage, trying to free her from her family's shackles), but the fact that Mei was sexually aggressing Yuu - or the other way around for grandpa - was probably swept under the rug... That would explain why he would still insist on her granddaughter getting a fiancé.

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Klice
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I've reread the whole series once again and I must admit it's a really good age gap/lolicon story; in opposition to the classic student/teacher. Thank you translator(s)!

I'm glad Mimika's friends is accepting their "relation" even if they don't like each other with Yuzumori. A true, true friend!

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One of my favourite Mira's. Selene best maid, her annoyed expressions and her little tsundere side are hhhnngggh.

Klice
Citrus discussion 26 Oct 06:18
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Wait so, the "parents" don't actually even love each other? Their whole "become a family" thing came out of circumstance and it was just the mother's desire to take care of Mei.
In a way that's sweet, but I'm irritated that for some reason it's okay for the dad to be away because he's finding himself or whatever.

I don't know, Ume seemed pretty much fond of Shou during their one interaction or when she talked about him. Perhaps she was just putting a front to reassure her daughter, but I think there are genuine sentiment there, hence why I'd be interesting by more extras or chapters covering their story.

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Klice
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I'm sad, I'm only at chapter 3.. Oh well, one can only hope. Or learn Japanese.

Thank you for translating so far ;_;

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Klice
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Why

Why not :3

Klice
Citrus discussion 25 Oct 09:05
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But Citrus's drama is pretty much similar to Korean manwhas' drama.

They were most probably talking about the art, not the quality of the drama.


Who the fuck even brought up Korean shit?

They brought it up to, I think, compare Citrus' art to something less polished in their eyes. Also, to be fair, the tone of your original post is already antagonistic and you're basically shitting on the manga while saying "meh, I'll give you that one good point". And when somebody call you out on your attitude for mocking a fan reaction, you also turn yourself into a victim "but they're just butthurt fans, it's not my fault. I even said they're free to like their shitty crap manga" - I'm exaggerating on purpose there.

Don't play dumb, you're shitting on something people like, hiding it behind legitimate critics, of course there's going to be offense taken. And then you end up on yet another provocation, but I guess it's just for shit and giggles.


Otherwise, when somebody calls something good, that means they like it, nothing to do with objectivity. Unless you're talking about something being technically good, for which you can point out errors in proportions and stuffs, which aren't standing out in my eyes. So yeah, like probably the majority of people who love Citrus, I like the characters designs the most and the way the emotions are portrayed are good : they're compelling and help me feel the emotions and the distress the characters are experiencing in the story. The art allows me to experience the story to its fullest, which is good since it is its purpose. And yes, there are more beautiful art out there, mostly outside of yuri where the drawings are mainly utilitarian, except the bodies and the faces, i.e. the characters.

Of course, like most of the works out there, there's going to be errors, the author is only human; but since they don't stand out for me, as I said, it's enough so that I consider Citrus' art good overall. On the specific case of the sketchy art, I'll just quote the best janitor ever "Schedule conflict"; Saburouta had a volume to finish and an anime to work on.

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