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joined Aug 18, 2015

You'd be surprised. Kiara has by far the most vocal and persistent haters I've seen so far.

I guess I'm just glad I don't inhabit the same spaces as those people. Not using Twitter is probably one of the best things I've ever done for my mental health.

Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015

I guess it depends on where you're looking? From what I've seen, it's Kiara that's gotten noticeably less attention than the other non-Gura Holomyth members.

She literally has a group of haters spreading bullshit for whatever reason, no surprises. We do have Mamaloni and the rest who are super dedicated, I think that makes up for it.

Wait wait wait... KIARA has haters? How could anyone actually dislike Kiara? I know Gura has haters, which is still just as bad, but that's at least a little less surprising because she's more popular than the others in Hololive, and stupid people hate popular things for no reason.

But Kiara? Not only is she the least subscribed to of HoloEN, she's the biggest ray of sunshine and happiness and good vibes I've ever seen. What reason is there to hate her?

edit: Regarding vtuber fanfic, I can totally understand how it weirds some people out. Personally speaking, there's a distinct difference in how I think about them as entertainers vs. how I think about the characters themselves. Is Kiara a lesbian? Possibly. I wouldn't really be surprised. Do I think she has a thing for Calli in real life? Not particularly. I guess I couldn't say for sure, but I don't just assume that she does. Is Calli secretly in love with Kiara? I have no reason to believe so, but even if I did it's really none of my damn business what these people get up to when they're not playing characters.

But does Kiara the phoenix thirst for Calliope the reaper, who secretly likes her as well? Well yeah, that's pretty plain to see.

The blurred line between person and character certainly adds the potential for discomfort about shipping, but as long as you can keep yourself safely away from crossing it, and as long as the people in question don't mind, I don't feel like there's harm in it.

last edited at Feb 1, 2021 5:05PM

Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015

Y'know, as far as I can tell, Ina just doesn't seem to get much love when it comes to fanworks. Not compared to the rest of HoloEN, at least. I like TakaMori and AmeSame as much as the next shrimp, but I'm starved for anything with our cute tako in it. I feel like I've read everything on AO3 with her present, and there just isn't a ton of art and such with her in it (again, relatively speaking).

It's such a shame. She's so darn cute, plus InAme and InAmeSame are so blessed. I love Polka a lot too, and she gets shipped with her and Nene a bit, but not super often, and that often takes the form of NTR and yandere stuff (even though Ina could have as many girlfriends as she has tentacles! :P), which are both genres I'm not fond of.

Honestly, Polka and Nene don't get a ton of attention themselves. I did read a really great fic centered around Polka and Lamy and Botan, but that's about all. Most of the shipping with gen 5 in it is just Botan and Lamy. Which is nice of course, but not something I'm personally interested in... though at this point I'd take whatever Hololive fanworks I can get as long as it wasn't completely terrible. Beggars can't be choosers.

I wonder what the world of JP fanfic is like? And where you would find such a world... and if such a world has ever been made readable for an english-speaking-only plebian...

last edited at Feb 1, 2021 1:48AM

SushiKnight
Image Comments 30 Jan 14:28
Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015
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Are we certain this is Marine x Rushia? I only see Marine leaning against a wall. Is she supposed to be looking at someone?

Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015

Hey everyone! It's been quite a while since I last visited the Cafe. How's everyone doing?

I'm trapped in the vtuber rabbit hole. I'd ask someone to send for help if it weren't so darn comfortable down here.

SushiKnight
Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015

I'm a cat controlling a human-shaped exoskeleton to make bad jokes on the internet. My favorite food is tuna and I'm easily distracted by laser pointers. Please don'

edit:

^ And there the bot exposes itself finally.

To be clear, the post this is referring to was deleted. Roshi is not a bot.

Not until the singularity comes.

last edited at Jan 30, 2021 3:07AM

Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015

Welp. I was completely wrong. I guess I should have known not to get my hopes up.

Goddamn, how did something so good get axed so quickly? Do people just have shit taste or something? I honestly do not understand.

SushiKnight
Image Comments 26 Jan 14:51
Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015
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Yeah, there's no deeper meaning beyond the combination of the two memes.

"Bottom left" is a running gag in Hololive EN for the reason Minran mentioned (all of chat was saying bottom left, Huke's comment just sealed the deal).

"And so... They were both bottoms" is a frequently parodied meme in yuri.

Combine them and you get this.

Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015

Calliope Mori is doing an endurance stream til she gets to 1M subscribers! She's at 998K right now, so I don't think she's gonna have to endure very long. She's playing Skryim right now, if anyone's interested.

edit: scratch that, she got to 999K while I was typing this.

edit 2: she got there!

edit 3: Gosh she really is just a big ol' sweetheart. She's making me smile a big, big smile.

last edited at Jan 25, 2021 12:40AM

Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015

Edit: CherryintheSun made a TakaMori doujin.
And this too: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/87276145

I feel like the last page of that TakaMori doujin is missing a line.

"This is your captain speaking. In case of emergency, my chest can be used as a flotation device."

Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015

Reposting PSA just in case.

Due to the ridiculous amount of negativety I've seen lately in other sites, I feel like I need to drop a short PSA/Q&A before newbies comes across it. Apologies for any errors, I will edit this if necessary. Wrote this a few days ago but forgot to post.

• Always remember they are here to entertain us. It's very rare for a genuine streamer to do or say things with malicious intend.

• Most of the "info" you see floating around is fake, the crazier it sounds the easier it is to identify as fake. Most of the fake news come from haters who want to ruin a streamer's reputation...for some reason.

• YouTube is a horrendous accomplice for this toxicity. Only follow credible sources.
"Hero hei" is the main reason why I'm making this post, he is a clickbait master and a leech to the community. Please block him from appearing in your feed or just ignore him. "Woohoolad" is the superior option for Vtuber news if you want to follow a "news channel".

• Related to the note above, there seems to be an obsession with some people revealing Vtubers identities. Try to avoid these channels too, they are filled with misinformation as well. If you're curious about them for whatever reason, Google is far more effective. I can't prevent anyone from doing research but I can at least encourage avoiding toxic parts of the community. Not to mention it's completely unnecessary to enjoy the streams and the community. They always reveal personal information in their streams anyway, you really don't need more than that.

• Have fun.

Q1: is -insert name- a -insert adjective-
A: No, the answer is usually no. They are all very normal people a few are gorgeous, just worry about their streams not their personal lives.

Q2: Is research worth?
A: No. All you will find is them doing the same thing they do now...and a couple of sob stories.

Q3: Haachama?!
A: Yes! And she eats everything she cooks!

Q4: Gayest girl?
A tough question...Flare? Sukoya? Tomoe? Kiara? I honestly have no idea.

Q5: best girl? And don't say Yagoo smartass!
A: Suisei.

Q6: Where can I find old clips?
A: Patience. Some madlads are slowly re uploading them.

I can add some info about upd8 since it relates to a bunch of girls including AZKi but the important stuff is in the Vtuber wiki.

I was considering giving a warning about drama channels like Hero Hei's in the OP, but I didn't want to make it too complicated. I would definitely say to exercise caution with any "news" channels, including Woohoolad, but as far as I can tell he's the most "okay" (even if his intro shtick is eye-roll-inducingly dumb).

The Hololive subreddit is a decent source for news and information, but always remember that the only information you can really trust is straight from Cover corp. and the talents themselves.

This is all great information though, thanks for posting it.

edit: speaking of the Hololive subreddit, Coco is gonna be doing a meme review with Polka in a few hours. 7:00 PM PST. That should be good lol

last edited at Jan 23, 2021 6:42PM

SushiKnight
Image Comments 23 Jan 13:26
Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015
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^That's because of what we call "Saber face".

Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015

My favourite vtuber is a relatively obscure one. Ryugasaki Rene.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2hc-00y-MSR6eYA4eQ4tjQ

Since she's so small she doesn't really have a lot of translated content out there, though recently she's been trying to learn English. She's pretty great though. She's a really good singer, and despite her cool tomboyish look she's actually a giant idiot which is hilarious to realize.

Other than that the only vtuber I watch regularly is Pikamee.

Also I haven't really watched anything else from Gundou Mirei but I thought you guys might be interested in this clip where she talks about what the Japanese lesbian subculture is like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV5iednlMuI

I really want to check out more of the smaller vtubers out there so I'll definitely look up Ryugasaki Rene. edit: Ah! I remember seeing her in a collab with VOMS!

I've only ever seen Gundou Mirei in a compilation of 3D Nijisanji clips (where she was hilarious), she seems like a really cool and genuine person from the clips I've seen of her. I'll definitely be watching her from now on.

last edited at Jan 22, 2021 9:36PM

Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015

My current fave is Pikamee, who speaks both Japanese and English.

Pikamee's definitely one of my favorites. She's probably the biggest reason for my interest in vtubers after I stopped watching Kizuna Ai... years ago? God how long has it been...

Her energy is so infectious, and you can't help but laugh whenever she does. And her design was done by GYARI of chocomint ice fame (along with some other great videos and great music), whose art I really dig. I'd definitely recommend her to anyone interested in vtubers.

edit: by the way, if someone more knowledgeable wants to write something up on Nijisanji I'd be glad to add that to the OP.

last edited at Jan 22, 2021 1:51PM

Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015

VTubers!

Answering the question "What if anime was real?" once and for all.


What is a VTuber?

A VTuber, short for "Virtual Youtuber", is very similar to the standard Youtuber or livestreamer. The big difference is that, instead of using a webcam to show their face, or having no camera at all, they use face-tracking and/or motion-capture technology to rig their movements to a virtual avatar. Some of them play a character, some don't, others start out playing a character but in the end change what they do to something completely different.

Of course, the easiest way to get an idea of what they are is to...
watch
some
clips
...and that's just barely scratching the surface!

So it's just anime girls playing video games?

Well yes but actually no. There's tons of VTubers out there, and while a good number of them stream video games, there's others who sing, or draw, or just chat. If there's something you want to watch, chances are someone does it. Of course, there's anime boys doing these things too! Probably some enby anime people too! Maybe.

Alright, you've got my interest, where do I start?

Well, currently there's two big groups that most people are talking about, Hololive and Nijisanji. Sadly I know very little about Nijisanji, so I can't help there.

Hololive does the vtuber thing more like an idol agency. In fact, the creator of Hololive once famously said that Hololive is like a vtuber AKB48.

Or at least, that was the plan. In reality it's a crazy, chaotic circus that is so much more than just a bunch of idols. They've done a few liveshows, so the idol thing isn't completely gone, and a lot of them are great singers who have made some amazing covers and original songs. But at it's core, it's really just a bunch of hardworking, likeable people having fun streaming. With over 50 members so far, there's a good chance someone there will appeal to you.

For starters I'd recommend Inugami Korone if you like games and cute doggos.

or Houshou Marine if you like horny pirate boomers

There's a very welcoming community around Hololive. And memes. So many memes.

Last year they started an English-speaking branch with five amazing members so far. It's a great place to start if you don't know Japanese but want to be able to watch them stream live instead of just watching translated clips. Additionally,everyone in their Indonesian branch speaks great English. There's also usually people in the chats of the JP streamers voluntarily doing live translations, and there's useful browser extensions that work with the translations they provide (such as LiveTL, which I highly recommend).

Anything else I should know in advance?

Indeed there is! The rules. Always read the rules, there's generally overlap between all VTubers in them, but always read the rules just to be sure. And then, after you read the rules, follow them.

Keep in mind that this is not Twitch, and what is acceptable behavior there is often unacceptable here. Be polite, be on your best behavior, treat everyone with respect, and you'll be just fine.

Also, if you see someone being a dingus, spamming, or trolling, don't respond to them, just block them and report them.


A handy-dandy PSA courtesy of fellow forum-goer Rye:

Reposting PSA just in case.

Due to the ridiculous amount of negativety I've seen lately in other sites, I feel like I need to drop a short PSA/Q&A before newbies comes across it. Apologies for any errors, I will edit this if necessary. Wrote this a few days ago but forgot to post.

• Always remember they are here to entertain us. It's very rare for a genuine streamer to do or say things with malicious intend.

• Most of the "info" you see floating around is fake, the crazier it sounds the easier it is to identify as fake. Most of the fake news come from haters who want to ruin a streamer's reputation...for some reason.

• YouTube is a horrendous accomplice for this toxicity. Only follow credible sources.
"Hero hei" is the main reason why I'm making this post, he is a clickbait master and a leech to the community. Please block him from appearing in your feed or just ignore him. "Woohoolad" is the superior option for Vtuber news if you want to follow a "news channel".

• Related to the note above, there seems to be an obsession with some people revealing Vtubers identities. Try to avoid these channels too, they are filled with misinformation as well. If you're curious about them for whatever reason, Google is far more effective. I can't prevent anyone from doing research but I can at least encourage avoiding toxic parts of the community. Not to mention it's completely unnecessary to enjoy the streams and the community. They always reveal personal information in their streams anyway, you really don't need more than that.

• Have fun.

Q1: is -insert name- a -insert adjective-
A: No, the answer is usually no. They are all very normal people a few are gorgeous, just worry about their streams not their personal lives.

Q2: Is research worth?
A: No. All you will find is them doing the same thing they do now...and a couple of sob stories.

Q3: Haachama?!
A: Yes! And she eats everything she cooks!

Q4: Gayest girl?
A tough question...Flare? Sukoya? Tomoe? Kiara? I honestly have no idea.

Q5: best girl? And don't say Yagoo smartass!
A: Suisei.
OP's edit: Don't believe these lies. It's Yagoo. It's always Yagoo.

Q6: Where can I find old clips?
A: Patience. Some madlads are slowly re uploading them.

Thanks Rye!


That just about does it for the OP. If anyone has something to add just say so.

Welcome to the rabbit hole, remember to simp responsibly!

last edited at Mar 17, 2021 8:28PM

SushiKnight
Image Comments 17 Jan 21:25
Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015
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^^^You're reading way too far into this, my friend.

Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015

the top in the relationship ( i believe they call this a "power bottom").

not quite. they're separate things, but I'm not really qualified to explain it so maybe someone else can do a better job than me.

SushiKnight
Image Comments 17 Jan 20:39
Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015
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I suppose I just want to know if they ever follow through on anything instead of dropping it after they've built up to a beginning. The "gayest moment" in Love Live that I can think of is probably Riko's confession (or was it?) in Sunshine season 1 and, as I understand it, they pretty much abandoned that come season 2.

I'll try the manga, for now. I've heard others say the same about the non-anime media being more explicit about it. Wish me luck. :P

SushiKnight
Image Comments 17 Jan 13:08
Eat%20ass
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Just how gay was this one? My assumption is that it kept up the tradition of going as far as they can while still maintaing plausible deniability.

SushiKnight
Image Comments 17 Jan 01:59
Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015
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^^it's the gap moè. Something I never thought I'd be vulnerable to, and yet, here we are...

SushiKnight
Image Comments 17 Jan 01:54
Eat%20ass
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Having gotten into Hololive and vtubers a bit late, (only a month or two before EN was announced) I have a very blurry understanding of Matsuri's relationships (platonic and otherwise) outside of this pairing.

That said, this pairing is so incredibly sweet. I usually find Luna's 0 year-old princess shtick a bit grating, but when these two are together they're so dang cute and sweet and adorable and precious and wonderful that it doesn't even register.

SushiKnight
Image Comments 15 Jan 00:30
Eat%20ass
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^I was a bit surprised when I saw that some of them were uploaded on Kanata's channel rather than Coco's. Then again, it seems like all of hololive has started shitposting now. Not to mention Kanata can be (and often is) just as much of a goofball as Coco. They play off each other really well and it's so fun to see.

SushiKnight
Image Comments 09 Jan 18:56
Eat%20ass
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Censored ear? How earotic!

I see you Ina, you can't fool me.

SushiKnight
Image Comments 08 Jan 02:05
Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015
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^^Yagoo voices everyone, therefore everyone is best girl.

SushiKnight
Image Comments 04 Jan 23:22
Eat%20ass
joined Aug 18, 2015
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I love this art, such a cute style.

Ina's tentacles helping her ring the bell is too dang adorable. She puts all other anime tentacle monsters to shame with her undeniable cuteness.