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Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

She's suck but it doesn't mean she never tried lol.

Gonna need examples of Erika trying to be manipulative.

①Chapter 1:
→"Well, anyway, we're going to be busy with the club. There's no need for us to be in love yet, right?"

Erika's trying to let the other two think it's a bad idea if they choose to date right now. But it was mainly said towards Koto. You can see Koto was feeling the pressure (next picture) because she knew Aya loved acting and always be the lead role of their drama club. Erika implied "you might disturb Aya if you ask her to go out" here.

However, it turned out Koto still can't help but confess. Erika is suck at manipulating people all due to her not knowing that person who she wants to manipulate pretty well (and never notice that fact). Koto has the most selfish character out of the trio. Normally, people who had been refused will be hesitant to confess again for fearing he/she might feel bothered, but Koto couldn't care less.

Compared to Aya, who successfully pushed Koto to do the script things while jokingly playing Koto around at the same time. Yes, Erika literally has no talent in this area.

②Chapter 3:
→"So, if your feelings died down and you move on…You have to make it clear to her, don't you think?"

Even that's the case, you don't have to say in this way. As their friends, "You have to figure out how you feels about her now" is far more appropriate in this situation. But of course l can get it, Erika loves Koto and wants to lead her to think she has no feelings towards Aya now. It's understandable.

③Chapter 16:
→"She's fine. It's even surprising."

That's the reply when Koto ask "How is Aya-chan?" Erika knows Aya is not really fine but still chose to say that. She wants Koto to move on so badly to the degree that she is disgusting me here. Erika thought Koto would be miraculously moving forward if she acknowledges Aya doesn't even feel any sorrow about their breakup (while it's not the truth lol). So we can see why she gets mad next page that Koto is still all about Aya as usual.

I have said it before and l am going to say it again. Holding an unrequited love that long is never a good thing. Ultimately, you will be hurting the people you love because you can't control yourself, to think you already cost too much on it.

Accepting someone might never loves you back is a maturity which should be marked with a red line.

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

I give up. This is a manga not a novel. Sometimes we can simply tell character's emotion from the picture. The text is not the only and usual way to show it. But l guess it's pointless since you can't even sense Koto's unhappiness in chapter 7 when it's like a piece of cake to me. And l don't have the obligation to teach you.

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

It’s reasonable to speculate that Erika expressed her jealousy to Aya at the festival, but we have no solid evidence about that. Erika’s present-day guilt and self-loathing could simply be about wishing for something bad to happen to her friends’ relationship that then actually happened. (And the story has made it crystal-clear that Aya and Erika actually were friends (as well as rivals) in middle school.)

I don't think it's a coincidence that author let Aya and Koto both use the same word (親友) to describe the friendship they have with Erika. And the different way how Erika reacted to it (guilty degree) is very interesting (chapter 12 and chapter 8). That's even before Aya broke up with Koto.

But ofc there's nothing l can say if you can't tell the difference.
(l am not intended to insult you or anything. Just l still remember our debate before. You seem like not very sensitive when it comes to people's emotional issues)

last edited at Nov 7, 2024 10:36AM

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

I don't know about Nadeshiko, but how is Yuu the "same type of person" as Akira (or Erika)? What exactly is this type supposed to be? I don't see the connection. If anything, Sayaka from Bloom Into You has way more in common with these characters than Yuu does.

Serious personality type, which makes you feel you can't even play a joke on them. It's just my preference.

last edited at Nov 7, 2024 6:16AM

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

Don't know why some people have to paint Erika as a perfectly innocent angel in the whole story while it's obvious not the case. Because you can't like her anymore if she truly had done something bad in the past?(real angel is boring as hell anyways. Like Tsukasa from Nanashi no Asterism and Mayuki from An Easy Introduction to Love Triangles)
I am curious what even makes you like this character in the first place.

I admit l don't like Erika at all, not even a little. However, it has nothing to do with her behalf. From the very beginning, she is not the type of person l will like. It's the same l don't like Yuu (Bloom Into You), Nadeshiko (Nanashi no Asterism), and Akira (An Easy Introduction to Love Triangles).

Maybe this forum should have been called "We all hate Koto". I have noticed people getting more criticism when they have something to say about Erika. I didn't get a "Koto hater" name even though l said a lot about her not that long time ago.

To be clear, even if Erika is the main cause of Aya's disappearance back then and does try to encourage them to break up, it doesn't mean she is a bad person or anything (well, she will be my hatest character in the history if she has a hand in Aya's disappearance since l love Aya so much). Erika is a human and human makes mistake all the time. Same goes for Aya and Koto.

She definitely said something really mean out of jealousy and furiousness towards Aya that day, which goes back to hunt her after Aya disappeared to the point she can't stop hating herself.
(Even as an adult now, she barely can control herself in chapter 13. You can't convince me she was far more mature in her 14)

last edited at Nov 7, 2024 6:38AM

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

Erika really isn't all that much of a schemer or manipulator, because she simply doesn't have the skills for it lol.

She's suck but it doesn't mean she never tried lol.

I honestly think Aya is actually the most talented in this area. Koto just win by her age.
(The same, you can be so talented but don't want to do it at all at the same time)

last edited at Nov 6, 2024 12:51AM

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

After reading chapter 3.5 and chapter 4.5 (total 12 pages, you can only see it in paperback edition, maybe even translator doesn't have it), l think Aya does see Erika as an important friend, despite not loving her in romantic way, she's equal to Koto. That's why she did went to the Tanabata festival but chose not to meet Koto after that conversation with Erika. Aya's blaming herself for ruining the friendship triangle by accepting Koto's confession.
( l can be sure Erika said something mean like l wish you never exist in the first place etc. We can see in chapter 4, chapter 8, chapter 12, and chapter 13, where Erika feels guilty and self-hatred. The real reason Erika also be trapped in the past and can't give up on Koto)
It can also explain Aya only comes back because Koto and Erika (finally) both want it to happen.

I have to say l feel really complexed towards Erika now. While she does help Aya a lot, she also let Aya deal with Koto's sadness and trauma alone without knowing what Koto had been through in that seven years.
Yes, it should be Koto's right to decide whether telling Aya or not. However, if Erika tells Aya to figure out her true feelings towards present Koto (deciding to get involved into friend's love affair anyways), she should also give Aya the information.

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

I have next chapter and no, they didn't have sex or anything like that

No offense.
Really confused since translator is the one who makes the rule of no spoiler here.

Edited:l gotta say l lost all respect towards translator because he can't even follow the rule himself. Now who would give a fuck of no spoiler rule?It's not like l don't want to discuss it immediately when raw chapter 8 came out.

I'm grateful for translator's hard works and high quality translation. It gives me a place to discuss my favorite manga. However, l feel betrayal by now.

last edited at Oct 29, 2024 8:28PM

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

Erika, after learning that her best friend and decade-long crush started emotionally abusing her girlfriend and then got dumped: "Surely now is the right time to tell her my feelings."

(I like Erika but she needs a reality check almost as much as Koto does lol.)

Clearly, Erika is not very sagacious regarding this kind of things.
Like in chapter 8, even though Koto told her she broke up because she wasn't able to reciprocate that kind of feelings, Erika "She got a boyfriend. Surely Koto can fall in love now".

It's not like l hate her for that or anything.
Just…l can understand why Koto falls for an outsider and not her childhood friend.

last edited at Oct 10, 2024 1:48PM

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

While it's not a bad thing they broke up, l still feel very uncomfortable that Erika actually plays a vital role in it. If she hadn't asked Aya the question of her feelings towards present Koto, Aya would eventually but take a longer time to notice that fact, which l would prefer in that way.

I'm not saying Erika shouldn't help her friend when they ask her for help or advice. However, as their friend, especially when you are in love with one of them, you have to be very careful and not to get involved in "couple's issues". Though clearly Erika can't control herself anymore.

Yes, Erika never really had done anything bad towards Aya since the day she came back. It just doesn't feel right what Erika is going to do now (decide to pursue Koto right away after they broke up a moment ago). I can't imagine how hurt Aya would be if she finds out Erika never really wants their relationship to work out when faking a face of a supporting friend in front of her and Koto. I guess it would be a bit too much for a child to handle.

And Erika's negative self talk is somehow so hypocritical in this chapter. Like she thought " How can l do such a terrible thing?" but still chose to push Aya off the cliff after 5 seconds.

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

It's nice to come back here after every chapter and see a new theory about how somehow Erika is to blame for everything, even after a chapter she was barely in. I appreciate the consistency, just like how Aya appreciated Koto's consistency.

Relax. No one is blaming Erika here lol.

However, the idea that Aya had no reason to leave her situation is pretty much directly unambiguously contradicted by the manga's text. Aya and Koto were actively talking about running away together, remember? Aya's life continued to get more and more unbearable after the end of this flashback, to the point where we see her in chapter 1 where she'd rather anything but to be here and now.

No. And it is so uncomfortable to see you trying to explain her action in this way. Aya never really complains anything that happens to her. Although her situation is so shitty, she always keeps moving forward nonetheless. The girl with such a powerful mind while being a fucking teenager. Even adult Erika is no match for her. To think Aya is still a 14 yo child. I can't imagine what kind of adult she would become.

That's why you are not gonna convince me Aya wants to escape from anything after knowing her from entire fourteen chapters.

Aya's "if not here, where is it?" is just a question, as simple as that. Considering she's still a minor, her grandpa's unavoidable death will lead her to leave the town where she once thought she belongs to (no matter adapted by her relative or taken care by the government).

Fun fact:Aya is still looking somewhere in chapter 5. Is it because Aya wants to escape from Koto in that chapter? l don't think so.

I have never meet a character like Aya before. She is like the most wonderful thing you can only meet once in your entire lifetime. That's no wonder why Koto never really gets over her.

last edited at Sep 8, 2024 12:45AM

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

I wouldn't be so sure. We also saw in this chapter that, after her grandmother died, her grandfather's mental capacities started declining rapidly. With her mother not in the picture, Aya was facing the prospect of soon having to become a full-time caretaker of a senile elder while still only being 14 herself. This is a situation almost anyone would want to escape from.

Well, other people maybe. But this is Aya.
A ridiculous 14 yo who has an incredible strong heart. Since she never gives up on anything, nor does she ever even consider it, l will tend to believe that's not the case.

In Chapter 3, Aya says that when she found out her grandfather was dead, "The first thing that came to my mind was that it was finally over."

Yeah, l remember that part of story.

(This is my way of understanding, you can disagree with me)
Aya's biggest fear is things will end up changing. She is so fed up with losing sb dear to her.
First, her friends, then her mom, now her grandma.

Her grandfather is dying in a slowest way. She knows she will lose him eventually. That's why she acted that complex way in chapter 3.

last edited at Sep 7, 2024 1:33PM

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

I wouldn't be so sure. We also saw in this chapter that, after her grandmother died, her grandfather's mental capacities started declining rapidly. With her mother not in the picture, Aya was facing the prospect of soon having to become a full-time caretaker of a senile elder while still only being 14 herself. This is a situation almost anyone would want to escape from.

Well, other people maybe. But this is Aya.
A ridiculous 14 yo who has an incredible strong heart. Since she never gives up on anything, nor does she ever even consider it, l will tend to believe that's not the case.

last edited at Sep 7, 2024 1:04PM

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

After reading chapter 14, l tend to believe the theory Erika is the cause of why Aya disappeared in the first place.
Aya definitely has no motivation to wish herself away. Her looking for "if not here, where is it?" was just an imagination of the place she truly belongs to.
Some of the readers had been misled by the way the author intentionally showed us. You had been tricked (just like Koto). Freedom is not that important in Aya's desire list.

She longs for something which would never change. She loves Koto because she believes she (Koto) is the last person in this world would have a change.

However, like l said before, Aya never gets to understand the real weight of that "love" she asked for. That's why l am glad she can start experiencing now. To figure it out if "this" is what she really wants.

last edited at Sep 7, 2024 12:34PM

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

First thought I have when seeing your name is "oh look it's that poster who thinks Erika killed their firstborn".
Sorry I've just been skimming your posts for a few chapters now because I wrote them off as little more than unfiltered hatred for Erika.

It's not like l care. You can go ahead.

Or perhaps I'm confusing you with another poster that doesn't have a profile pic?

If others have similar thoughts about your posts, you may want to consider condensing your posts a bit so they're not as easy to misinterpret and/or adding a profile pic that makes you easier to identify.

You know there's a reason l don't even want to talk to you?You are so condescending.
Don't bother to quote me again, l won't reply.

Or it's just laziness and poor reading comprehension on my part.

Not my problem lol.

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

It's like this: if you and I both read a scene of Erika thinking "I'm such a piece of shit" and I go "poor Erika, she has such a poor self image, because she's obviously a good person based on her actions" and you go "that piece of shit Erika has an accurate self image, so all her actions probably have secret bad intentions," we're both making choices, informed by the context of the story and our personalities and experiences.

You literally made me spill my drink because I can't stop laughing when reading your text.

"that piece of shit Erika has an accurate self image, so all her actions probably have secret bad intentions,"
That's not true. I never consider Erika a bad person. And having bad intention doesn't mean she's one. Same goes for Koto.

"As the one who's not being loved, Erika always compromises her own principles when things related to Koto."
I actually believe Erika has a high moral standard. However, this standard can be changed when things related to Koto. She does sincerely see Aya as a friend but has to use her like a tool to make Koto change. That's the reason she has self-loathing when Aya said "you're really a great friend". Because she knows she isn't in her own standard.

And in such a situation where people have essentially opposite readings of the same text, is it not understandable that people might wonder why you read Erika unsympathetically compared to those who read her sympathetically?

I won't deny l can't sympathize with her compared to Koto due to my own life experience. But l don't think l am being especially harsh on Erika. You can even see my previous post to get the same conclusion that l hate Koto, which is really far away from the truth.

I don't think I've seen anything concrete in the story or discussion that points to Erika deserving to be seen in such a negative light except her own thoughts where she feels guilty for hoping for a happiness that would come at the expense of her friend. And I'd point to that guilt as itself evidence of her being good: she doesn't embrace that desire, she's repeatedly shown resisting it and feeling terrible for even having the passing thought. And I think having a selfish thought and feeling bad about it and not acting on it is a pretty normal relatable thing, personally.

I have to disagree here. From my point of view, I think Erika did ACT on it. Several times.

Chapter 1:
"There's no need for us to be in love yet, right?"
The last, hopeless act trying to stop Koto to confess again.

Chapter 3:
"If your feelings died down and you move on…You have to make it clear to her, don't you think?"
You can't sense anything wrong in this way of speaking?

Chapter 13:
Throwing her laundry basket hard on the sofa with Aya sitting very next to it.

One thing to be clear. Erika hasn't done anything l would see her as a villain yet. Her action is quite realistic as the one who is hopelessly in unrequited love with someone.

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

If Erika didn't try to do anything in this chapter, Aya would come home the same day Koto thinks it's right time to show up at Erika's frontdoor and apologize.

You do realize that when you make these categorical assertions without evidence from the text about what characters are really thinking even though we haven’t seen them thinking it or what would hypothetically happen instead of what actually happens that there’s no reason for anyone else to believe it, right?

When story is written with such good characterization, it only be natural for readers to assume what they would possibly do or think even without text showing it.
You definitely can not believe it and make your own guess (or not wanna do it at all).
It's not like l care, tbh.

Edited: l still remember you asked me evidence for why Koto actually doesn't want Aya really landing on a part time job like 5 months ago.

last edited at Aug 6, 2024 7:58PM

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

I think l have to make it clear.
Tbh, I don't even care a bit if it turns out Erika being a villain ( l don't think she is as of now). Nor do l have interest in painting her as one.
I like analyzing character's intention behind their actions. Why they are doing this?What goal do they try to achieve?
It's an enjoyment when the story is written in a realistic style (except time traveling and the cause of it. That's the part l don't want to discuss).

You can disagree with me and express your own opinions, which might convince me (or not). I don't get the point of accusing someone hating certain character while they did explain why they are viewing things this way.

The same goes for Koto.
When l say l consider Koto is a genius manipulator, l think it's a finest way to describe the imbalance power she has over the others.

For Aya, because she is still a kid. As an adult, Koto can easily sense her emotions and kinda predict the action she will take.
If Erika didn't try to do anything in this chapter, Aya would come home the same day Koto thinks it's right time to show up at Erika's frontdoor and apologize.
Despite being a ridiculous 14yo kid, Aya still lacks a great amount of life experience comparing to Koto or Erika. She would believe Koto's promise even if she did value her freedom the most.

For Erika, because her unrequited love (obsession?) for Koto. As the one who's not being loved, Erika always compromises her own principles when things related to Koto.

Aya has her own issues too, which l might give a further talk when chapter 15 is updated.

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

It's kinda similar vibe as Touko from Bloom Into You.

Touko→refuses everyone who confessed to her because she can't trust them. She believes love is like a shackle.

Aya→refuses everyone who confessed to her because she can't trust them. She believes love is something which would eventually change.

While you have to never like Touko to get her like you, Aya is quite the opposite. You have to let her believe your love for her will never change.

That is to say you need to
① like her first.
(She will not let herself fall in love with anyone who doesn't like her. That's why l said Aya will never like Erika.)
② let her feel your love will last forever.
(You can't give up even if she reject or doesn't respond to your confession)
③ She has to be your first love.
(Or you already have the change of your heart from your first love. She will not believe in you to love her forever. Also the reason she will never like Erika.)

You can see why l consider Aya has a distorted mindset. Well, you can't expect a kid who had been abandoned by her own parents would being normal.

And this "traumatized" present Koto apparently is the last person in this world who would have a change of her mind.

last edited at Aug 4, 2024 9:35PM

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

I can see Koto on her knees apologizes to Aya and promise she won't treat her like a kid again. She would let her do whatever she wants. Aya forgives her and agree to come home.
That's the ending if Erika doing nothing.

That's what I think too. However, despite not having good intentions, Erika did give good advice. Aya should think carefully about whether she still loves the present Koto, rather than maintaining the current state with Koto being more careful, which would destroy both of them from the inside. Let's see what Aya's answer will be.

Agree.

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

I cannot imagine Aya just putting up with this situation when freedom is so important to her. It was like her ENTIRE thing back before disappearing, how much she wanted the freedom to get away from her shitty grandfather and a life controlled by others, and one of the major elements back then of Koto and Aya's relationship was Koto at least claiming to be willing to follow Aya's lead and run away with her.

Then l have to say you have misunderstood what she really wants in the beginning. I can 100% assure you freedom is not in Aya's desire list. At least not at the top. And the reason she fell for Koto is kinda abnomal. Since Aya being abandoned by her own mom at very young age, l think it justify her distorted mindset.

I have this hunch since chapter 4. After reading chapter 13, l know my analysis of Aya is true. (You can see my previous post)
Anyways, it's quite obvious Aya didn't see Koto in that way at first. She was so shock when Koto (first) confessd to her back then.

Then why she suddenly attracted to Koto?

Chapter 4:
"I left Koto's feelings without answer."
"I just assumed she would have a change of her heart eventually."
"But Koto…kept on being in love with me."

Chapter 13:
"I felt only Koto was special."
"Different from the others."
"That she would love me always."
"That she would never forget me."

You can see why Aya fell in love with Koto now?

Even after suddenly jumping seven years in the future and losing all her support structures, Aya's responded with remarkable flexibility to forge a path to full adult independence despite everything against her. And yet her loving girlfriend has not only changed physically on her but is behaving in the opposite way of how she did when they fell in love, trying to control Aya's entire life instead of following her lead to freedom. Regardless of what Koto might say in an apology or what promises she'd make, right now Koto's fundamental desires for Aya are completely incompatible with Aya's desires for herself.

Ironically, present Koto is exactly the type of lover Aya always longs for. She just never truly understand the real weight of that "love".
I actually glad she has started having a taste of it now.

last edited at Aug 4, 2024 12:28PM

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

Early on telling Aya about Koto directly is a very difficult, easily misconstrued conversation, and Aya could easily have just reacted defensively and cut it off. Later, their relationship seemed to be okay, especially with Aya studying and building a new life. And then it all crashed down so Erika indirectly finally pointed Aya in the direction of that.

Wow.
I got to say your love for Erika maybe keep you from seeing her objectively.
I don't think Erika should have told Aya the state of Koto's evolution mind in these years. Only because that should be Koto's right to decide whether tell Aya or not. It's a kind of business only between the couple.
I had to admit that's the maturity l never expect Erika to have.

However, the way Erika can't choose the wrongest time to jump in makes me think the otherwise.

The only reason she didn't meddle in is she was waiting for the right time.
Erika wants them to break up at the right moment. It just can't be too early or Koto would not have enough time to change. And it has to be Aya breaking up with Koto. Because not in a thousands years Koto will do that willingly.

And I still don't see how Erika could be interpreted as trying to break them up. When Aya fled Koto's apartment and came to Erika, Koto's actions were so bad with that breaking up was the likely default condition. She could have pulled a Luigi and won by doing nothing, just comforted Aya with a platitude and let things play out. Instead she gave Aya advice that has led her to seemingly become more understanding of Koto.

I think it's worth pointing out that Erika hasn't even thought "I want them to break up," what she was hoping for was specific: that their relationship would run its course and Koto would get over what happened with Aya, realizing that seven years later they're both different people and not actually meant for each other. A sudden dramatic breakup thanks to Koto self-sabotaging is not the "healing and moving forward" Erika was hoping for. They need to reach a point where they mutually agree "let's just be friends" for the happy ending Erika wants lol.

Really?You seriously think Koto would just do nothing and let Aya break up with her?Wow, that version of Koto would have moved on seven years ago.

I can see Koto on her knees apologizes to Aya and promise she won't treat her like a kid again. She would let her do whatever she wants. Aya forgives her and agree to come home.
That's the ending if Erika doing nothing.

Yeah. It's not like their problem being solved. But apparently Koto will do things more carefully and choose not to speak out her real thought ever again.

Not even gonna bother addressing the person thinking Koto wasn't being abusive in that moment, I think Aya running away from her is enough to say that that's how she read the situation, even if she did water it down in summarizing it later with Erika.

Well, it's really hard to regard Koto as an abuser while Aya is the one who holding more cards in this relationship.
Despite the sudden seven age gap, Koto still not see herself as equal.
Aya is so god like to her lol.

last edited at Aug 4, 2024 5:35AM

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

I'm so fed up with the comments that say users are attacking or hating a character even though they have explained pretty well why they are feeling that way.

I think l am not being especially harsh on Erika.
You can even see my previous post to get same conclusion that l hate Koto, which is really far away from the truth.

The only reason l haven't criticized Aya is she's not done anything wrong or skeptical worth to talk about.
I actually believe she has the most distorted personality out of the three since chapter 4.(well, l am gonna be Aya hater by some people's logic here now lol)

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

You would possibly right if Erika wasn't in love with Koto. Since she does, it just make me so uncomfortable.
The situation is like, one of their (Koto and Erika) common friend who always has a thing for Erika goes tell Koto "You already know Erika's feelings right?How about you decide to accept it or not?"
You know what l mean?

Tbh, l don't care to be called Erika hater. While loving Aya the most and Koto as my second favorite, l literally feel nothing towards Erika. No love. No hate. Just nothing. I really do hope l can somehow like her to further enjoy this manga. However, l can't control how l feel.

Koto asked Erika out and Erika turned her down, knowing the relationship would be unhappy. She's not some mindless obsessed love slave, she's just got some lingering feelings for Koto, and she has never chosen to pursue those feelings at the expense of anyone else.

Yes, she has not lost her control yet. But who knows how long that state can persist. Like this chapter l can fully feel her jealousy and even some hatred towards Aya. If this keeps going, l wouldn't be surprised one day Erika feels she have had it enough and decides to do something really bad, which would hurt both Aya and Koto in the end.

We see her do the exact same kind of thing this chapter: Rather than telling Aya "run before she hobbles you like in Misery" she tells her "think about how you feel about her in the present, if you truly love her" and then gives her a photo album. She's neither doomsaying nor papering over the major flaw in their relationship, she's giving Aya the best possible tools for her to look at that flaw and judge it accurately.

I am not saying this is not good for Aya. I am saying this is a betrayal of Koto's trust. Just like the example l gave you. You think Erika would be grateful for what their common friend did here?lf that so, why did it to the people you love?

last edited at Aug 2, 2024 10:39AM

Genevieve
joined Oct 24, 2023

The bizarre ways people read Erika based on their hatred of her is fascinating. Aya shows up on her doorstep asking her for help and so Erika begrudgingly tries to help by talking Aya through her feelings, but somehow this is none of her business and her telling Aya what to think lol. Let's just completely ignore the entire arc of the chapter showing that Erika's advice to Aya, which Aya specifically sought out, has led her in a positive looking direction. Nah she's evil somehow lol.
Same with reading Erika's reaction to Aya's dejavu as "alarm" when we already know that Erika had a conversation with Aya that Aya doesn't remember. My read on her reaction is "oh right, damn I'd almost forgotten there's a supernatural element to this plot that we'll probably need to deal with".
Hell, I wouldn't even read Erika's actions as at all selfish this chapter. She's consistently shown nothing but care for Aya and wanting to help her, and her advice is not remotely the kind of advice you'd give to someone fighting with a partner if you want that relationship to end. She tells Aya to think more and learn more about Koto instead of going "wow she sounds like a yandere you should stay away from her or you'll end up chained up in some basement" or something. Koto's actions last chapter were genuinely VERY concerning, Erika wouldn't even necessarily be in the wrong if she told Aya she's potentially in danger. Koto wanting to cut Aya off from the world and from having agency is a huge red flag. But she instead takes a moderate low-intervention path to help her two friends in their time of need while feeling bad about herself and that's just so evil I guess

You would possibly be right if Erika wasn't in love with Koto. Since she does, it just make me so uncomfortable.
The situation is like, one of their (Koto and Erika) common friend who always has a thing for Erika goes tell Koto "You already know Erika's feelings right?How about you decide to accept it or not?"
You know what l mean?

Tbh, l don't care to be called Erika hater. While loving Aya the most and Koto as my second favorite, l literally feel nothing towards Erika. No love. No hate. Just nothing. I really do hope l can somehow like her to further enjoy this manga. However, l can't control how l feel.

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