Many people in this site are really fixated on sexual tension to validate a romantic pairing when it really doesn't have to be that way. The show simply isn't very sexual (unless you count Secelia's mere presence sexual). You can see it in the het pairings too, they didn't have any sexual tension either. Norea and El5n, Petra and Lauda, or even Guel's crush on Suletta, these are clearly romantic (it's a more ambiguous with El5n and Norea because of their extraordinary circumstances but I think it's pretty clear that the show is trying to convey it) but there was no sexual tension at all. The closest we have to anything sexual is El5n creeping on Suletta. It's just how the show is, you could call it prude sure, but Sulemio completely falls into what this show categorizes as romance.

This doesn't mean the characters are ace either (god the absolute shitshow everytime there's an ace pairing on this site), some relationships in media simply don't explore the character's sexuality and that's completely fine. When you watch "Inception" or some shit, do you question that Leo and his wife's relationship was romantic just because there wasn't any explicitly sexual scene? And if you walk away from Ep 17 thinking, "Ah these 2 are just platonic" I have no idea what to say to you.

Ask yourself this and answer honestly, if these two were a het pairing, would there be any doubt that their relationship is romantic? I just "love" how if we were watching a show like SAO, there would be no question that Kirito would end up with Asuna from the very first scene they are together but if the pairing is gay we second guess even when they are married.

The show IS most definitely rushed though. Just another season would've made it a truly great anime I feel.

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Angst means development. I see this as an absolute win.

There's something so nostalgic about this art style. It makes my heart ache.

I'm locking in my prediction. Satsuki saving Komachi that first time is the catalyst for all the corpses, universe wants Komachi dead LiS style. The endgame is Satsuki will have to confront her "save everyone" worldview, she'll have to choose between sacrificing Komachi or risking everyone else. It's gonna be interesting to see what the author wants to say at the end, should Satsuki let go and accept death or is it better to keep raging against the dying of the light? So far her obsesssion with saving everyone has not been presented in the best light.

What's with the dogs? They show up everywhere

Catelyn Stark ass motherfucker just sat there next to a kid's corpse

Feels like a blast from the 2000s. Not a bad thing though, it's nice and done pretty well so far.

Good thing they didn't go for that first draft lmao

Just kiss already dammit

I would bet money that if the story ended with them not being ace but just as abrupt there would be whole lot less salt in the comments. Seems like some of ya'll are just hiding behind the abruptness when in reality your problem is with asexuality. At least people like motormind has the self awareness and the guts to straight up say it with their chest.

Bro lots of people on Dynasty hates aces seems like. Everytime they appear it's always a trainwreck in the comments. Empathy isn't in abundance around here I guess.

Fuck dude the mom chapters weren't a lot but it's super relatable and human. Someone else said that this series has a way of taking tried and true or even cliched concepts but somehow conveying it in a fresh and really relatable way and I agree completely. I think the final chapter is a bit too short and neat, it could've used a few more pages especially the final confession but not a whole chapter. I also think the lightheartedness in the "Yay we can communicate" scenes undercuts the emotion a bit too much.

I just realized that the only explicitly gay character is dead

Satsuki rn is that "the world is an unjust and cruel place, OMG Akira" meme

Author really likes to show abrupt shifts in tone through exaggerated character expressions. It's charming once you get used to it but at first it feels like the characters are reacting to a tragic news every few pages.

If that's how you feel about it you are welcome to that, but from my perspective I think anyone should be allowed to lie about their gender, or rather than say lie, I don't think anyone has a right to demand to know your gender.

It's not a question of "rights." Mitsuki has obviously not committed a literal crime. What she's done is (a) deliberately misled another person (b) in a way she knew, or should've known, would cause them great pain if they found out (as we saw happen in this very chapter) (c) purely in order to preserve this pseudo-friendship pseudo-romance thing she had going on with her. What precise information Aya had a "right" to know about is irrelevant. Mitsuki hurt her. She did a mean thing. She should apologize! (And I'm sure she will.) And that's all I have to say about this.

If you take it upon yourself to make assumptions about me and cause yourself some emotional, mental, or other harm by doing so, it is not my obligation to apologize for your self-harm caused by your assumptions. It is not a "mean thing" done to others by not correcting their assumptions. Especially if you don't know if you'll be safe if you do so. The only person responsible for the thoughts and assumptions you come up with in your head is you. So the only person who needs to apologize for making assumptions is the one who made them, not the one they were made about.

This is ridiculous. Everybody makes assumptions constantly in everyday life and we require them to function. When I go to McDonald's, I assume the guy behind the register wearing a uniform is the cashier and is gonna take my order, nobody in the history of ever has asked that guy, "Hey sorry, are you the cashier?"

Sorry to say but 99% of the time assuming someone's gender works fine IRL and people do it constantly. Even if someone isn't gender conforming, they must be aware of this. Even the term non-binary in it implies the existence of the binary. Mitsuki is not wrong because she's not disclosing her gender, she's wrong because she knows that Oosawa thinks that she's a dude and is deliberately letting her keep thinking that she is one for her own benefit.

Chapter felt shorter than usual. Anyway, I don't think any amount of backstory will save prez as an antagonist really. He just doesn't have that spark you know? He feels more like a nuisance than an actual threat even after the Zeus kill.

Man if they had made someone like Tokiko as the antagonist it would be super awesome. I think someone who is very unempathetic and almost has zero regard for human life is a more compelling foil to Satsuki. The opposite of love is indifference or something along those lines. Her curse would be a better way to handwave the amount of potential deaths than the prez's Wile E. Coyote plans. Satsuki's ideology would still be challenged, now she has a foe who is causing all these deaths but is not really culpable and at the same time completely indifferent to the impact she has to those around her. What does Satsuki do to stop this? Can she just follow the Tokiko around for the rest of her life or will she finally break and kill her even though Tokiko isn't even guilty? She can't even be sure that it actually is Tokiko that's causing all the deaths.

Right now Satsuki's main challenge is outsmarting the prez. The story tries to present it as an ideological battle but really it doesn't work. The prez's ideology can work in concept as a foil to hers but the way he implements it is absurd and completely untenable. If he were to have his way, it's more likely the school would be shut down instead or he'll get caught setting up a piano to fall on someone or something.

Oh and the VP is dying 100%, calling it now. This chapter is an obvious death flag. Villain's stoic sidekick gets a tragic backstory chapter? She dead.

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The virgin prez taking his first life in chapter 51 vs the chad Tokiko "killing" 3 members of her family in the first chapter

Someone please make that AU about Tokiko amd Natsuki.

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Seems like it's going to be the first death Satsuki fails to prevent, at least the first one on screen/page. If it is, it would be devastating for her especially after they connected on some level. Man, I didn't really hate the prez before, only found him kinda annoying, but this is some next level evil shit. How are you going to even justify this one? You're literally the one who manipulated her into almost killing someone, now she's a mess and would probably be mentally scarred for life if you had succeeded. Seems to me that under his logic the prez and his minion probably deserve to die the most.

Ya'll are worrying way too much about this. It's a cute story with great art. Not exactly earth shattering or a philosophical treatise on gay relationships. What does it matter wether or not it's going to be romance, explicit, etc. If it's good, it's good. What matters is Mitsuki better tell her soon, the anticipations is too much.

What I dislike about different mediums dealing with curses/the supernatural is there's almost never a satisfying conclusion. Neither we the readers or the characters get an explanation as to the reason any of this happened. Even their hypothesis doesn't make any sense since being resuscitated is pretty common. I can never enjoy these types of stories when so much is left unnecessary unanswered. I'd give this a 5.5/10

The best way imo is to not try too hard. Explain some things or hint at others amd leave the rest for the audience to interpret. Trying to explain everything is almost always going to create more problems, which is why I think the occult researchers aspect of this story could've been left out. Just let the detectives find out for themselves and speculate alongside the readers.

I actually just noticed the reason the curse tried to take Natsuki twice. The first was because Tokiko decided to stop being friends with her and the second was when she decided she wanted to be with her forever.

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Tokiko is definitely the most interesting part of this series. I don't think the final explanations resolved everything but I don't know if it needed to, it was more a thematic explanation than a narrative one. Maybe the point was that there can't be a definitive explanation? In a way it loops back to what Tokiko said about grief is being selfish for the living and not the dead, maybe trying to make sense of all this is just another version of that. I actually do like the final talk between the 3 survivors outside of them trying to explain the curse.

The author's art definitely improved a lot in Satsuki. I enjoyed it but I don't know if I would have gone past the first few chapters if I wasn't already interested in the author because of Satsuki (imagine a world where Tokiko's the antagonist of that series and not that wimpy ass hypocrite, way more interesting).The final chapters with Tokiko and the extras were definitely my favourite, anything that showed Tokiko's character more really but I do think there wasn't enough of it. Maybe I'm just biased and wamt more of her and Natsuki. Since people above were doing numbers, 6/10 closer to a 7 than a 5. Thank you for translating and uploading.

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This might sounds a very asshole answer, but the parents should teach their child better if they don't want them dead, like "Son, stop bullying people, you don't know what type of enemy you will make." Plus, if your son are sociopath, that would be hard too, cause he/she likely to be target by his/her victim. If your son psychopath, rip.

This is absolutely nonsensical, most of your comments are actually. Maybe it's because you have a hard time getting your point across in English but not only is it an absurd moral framework it is also a ridiculous comparison to the characters in the story.