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Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

and endless money?!

If their next date is as expensive as this one, then I am expecting the money to become a plot point. Or maybe bus drivers in Japan are paid more than I thought?

Shimarin
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

Did it skip a bit in the middle? I feel like it jumped forward at some point without telling us.

You have probably read it by now, but this and Taisetsu na Koto are the same story from the views of Fuuka or Rinne, this one starts earlier and the other one goes on farther.

Shimarin
Carmilla 24 Sep 09:25
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

Thanks, then I guess I'll give it a try, especially since it's only half of the 5 hour playtime that is stated on the site.

Shimarin
Carmilla 24 Sep 08:13
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

From the user comments:

kind of like combining a kinetic novel with literary analysis and history/philosophy lesson

Has anyone played it yet and can tell me how much of the original story this game contains? I haven't read Carmilla myself and I guess not many potential players have, so I guess this has to retell the plot points that are in the focus of the analysis?

Shimarin
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

Morinaga Milk, adult life, a kitten, confession in the first chapter. Okay I'm sold.

Amen.

Also, what's your icon from?

I searched the pages to look for the icon you mean, sadly I don't know it.
Next time maybe use the user's name, like @erise or something,
I'll leave a link here in case someone else wants to take a look.
https://dynasty-scans.com/forum/posts?user_id=12284

Shimarin
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

WTF Telltale died! What will happen to the money that people payed for the TWD s4 season pass? Wolf among us 2 is canned OOF

I'm not quite up to date on them, last time I played a game of theirs they all had the same gameplay but in different fictional universes. Did they try to branch out, or did they continue on like this until the novelty of their gameplay wore off? And I never liked season passes, it's like preordering DLC... why not buy it after knowing if it's good? Though telltale games were obviously a special case due to their seasonal format, I don't know if their passes where fair or not.

Shimarin
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

That dude (?) definitely wants to bone his brother

There's still the third guy, I guess I'll read it again and watch out for clues now that we know what's up with them.

Edit: I don't think there are hints either way. We saw more of the brother because "eyebrows-chan" was jealous, but IMO there were no hints towards the twin's target.

last edited at Sep 22, 2018 12:07PM

Shimarin
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

The only thing I don't like about this is the obsessive/clingy childhood friend

It bothers me how much that specific archetype is ripped off directly from others. Everything else can be derivative and shallow and I don't care...but this seems so arbitrary. Or rather, formulaic.

While I definitely have seen better "childhood friend" characters, wouldn't it be more of a trope to have the childhood friend be the straight man for Minori's shenanigans? I will give this series a chance, let's see if the setup of "ditzy girl with even more crazy childhood friend" does at least lead to good 4-koma jokes.

Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

@Linterdiction
Interesting analysis, I never looked at storytelling in game design in a way that does not include gameplay mechanics but instead the limits of this medium (like NPC behavior after completing the game).

Shimarin
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

Am I the only one that wants a yuri harem but with a deliquent type of character or a glasses character? lol

I second this. I would especially like to see someone like Risa from Out of the Blue's take on being a harem MC.

Shimarin
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

From where is your profile picture?

I believe that should be from "Blooming Sequence".

Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

That's exactly how it happen in the game and you can't convince me otherwise.

History of Nintendo: cardgames, videogames, portable lesbian 3D porn.
I would definitely be more open towards their new dlc politics in that case.

Shimarin
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

The only other "running off to sit under a bridge" I can remember would be in Tachibanakan, but while that would fit your 20-30 chapter description, the rest you wrote indeed points to Kimi Koi Limit (and Tachibanakan isn't on dynasty).

Shimarin
Touma-kun discussion 14 Sep 07:05
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

"make everyone cuter" is not the same as "go around and woo everyone"

After having seen "Girls become cuter when they are in love." or "You've become cute, are you in love?" in half of the romance series I've read... maybe Touma-kun is simply using a double attack of hair styling and brain chemistry to raise her efficiency.

Shimarin
Amanchu! discussion 14 Sep 06:50
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

"It's heterosexual, quick burn it with fire" mentality.

the author probably was likely initially writing intentional lesbian subtext into her story because some of it is pretty on the nose, and for one reason or another she got pressured to stop doing that

While I haven't read this myself (still on my "to read" list), I think in this case the critique isn't just because of het. I agree with you about the statement in question not being openly insulting. But after reading a story containing obvious subtext, many readers may have been expecting it to continue with subtext to the end (or even hoping for yuri), so their evaluation of this dialogue takes into account that this character is (according to their own expectations) basically having a yuri crush. And if that is your understanding of the character, then her statement becomes a negation of her feelings because of her gender.

Again, I haven't read it yet, so this is my understanding of this manga's state based on your own and other comments, I hope I am not too far off.

Shimarin
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

never came even remotely close to

Well, depends on your definition of "remotely close". Many countries enlist people that are below their legal age for drinking or even consent. While I am NOT conflating this with child soldiers, I always found it strange to send someone to war and die for the country while not granting them full rights yet.

Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

Werewolf/Mafia is the most overrated, overplayed game since Monopoly, though.

Haven't played it myself yet, but I guess it was bound to become popular; you can play it in big groups but don't need a big table and long time setting it up. Maybe playing in big groups also helped to spread it faster?

Shimarin
Liberty discussion 12 Sep 05:17
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

Pretty sure Momono Moto is just drawing this; voice actress Kitta Izumi is the writer.

I was hoping they would maybe talk about the planned story, if I was working with MM then I surely would ask for some pointers.

Edit: hopefully real English now

last edited at Sep 12, 2018 5:19AM

Shimarin
Liberty discussion 12 Sep 04:53
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

I'd hate it if the next chapter starts with a skip to the next day or something. Liz says she feels refreshed after telling Maki everything, but she really explained nothing. If the next chapter doesn't continue in Maki's apartment, with Liz telling her why she was mad, then I would consider that a real problem with the writing of this series. How am I supposed to sympathize with the main character if she takes all this shit from Liz and her reaction is "I'm glad she forgave me" instead of wanting an explanation?

I may be jumping the gun here, since I haven't seen the next chapter yet, but those time skips are a trope that has always bugged me...

  1. miscommunication
  2. conversation in which characters would have the chance to talk it out
  3. cut away in the middle of it
  4. new scene: "I haven't talked to senpai in 2 weeks"

A seasoned drama author like momono moto will hopefully not just stretch the existing drama out like this.

Edit: typo

last edited at Sep 12, 2018 4:54AM

Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

It could be that Marie is jealous that Mel gets to sleep with her Master, since Marie wants to sleep with Stella, too. But I agree that the triangle is more likely.

Shimarin
Mousou Envy discussion 10 Sep 07:12
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

@schuyguy:

  1. I completely agree with that
  2. how come you can use the "r-word" without your post being detected as spam? is it because my account is new?
Shimarin
Mousou Envy discussion 10 Sep 06:54
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

Isn't "demanding" a verb that implicates the other party to have a choice?
(Edit: this was an actual question since English isn't my first language, but now I used a thesaurus and I guess "demand" is not a synonym to "request" as I read it...)

Though I do agree that the conversation and the actual sex should not have happened at the same time. It would have felt much better (in the context of this story with two flawed characters) if it went more like:

  1. "I realized that I only put up with you because you're hot, and I've already told you that I won't let you freeload indefinitely. So now that I have recognized my feelings, I will act on them if you stay here."
  2. senpai does not leave
  3. sex

so basically plotwise nothing is different, except that MC tells senpai the thoughts only she and the readers know about, in a way that is stating her reasoning and not just announcing her ultimatum.

To me it feels like the commenters who read the story from MC's perspective are more likely to condone her behavior, because there is insight into her thoughts leading up to the confrontation, while someone taking senpai's perspective will take the ultimatum more seriously. The author could have fixed this by making clear that senpai was okay with it beforehand and not just afterwards, but I guess it wasn't important to them because they like trashy characters?

last edited at Sep 10, 2018 7:14AM

Shimarin
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

Well, it IS true that there isn't that much time put into build up and introductions of characters other than the main two, but this series feels pretty fast paced and I don't expect it to go on very long (I haven't looked into it's serialization, so please correct me if I'm wrong). I guess it's more about having a twist on the usual tropes (otaku x gyaru, makeover chapter), so I feel like the aim is to hook the reader via big turns every one or two chapters and not through detailed character development like for example Bloom Into You.

Shimarin
Ve_honoka
joined Sep 8, 2018

because I was never once shown that Kurokawa cared at all about her friends until they left her alone

Isn't it possible that this is not a problem with the storytelling but actually showing Kurokawa's priorities?
Often the bullied student is just someone for the reader to sympathize with, but in this case she is shown to have some bad sides / hang-ups herself. Kurokawa never thinks or says "I want to spend time with friend A" or "I like my friend B", it's always just "I don't want to be left out". Maybe Kurokawa thinks she is an otaku and therefore should spend time with the otaku group in her class if she doesn't want to be alone.

If we assume the author did this on purpose and didn't just forget to introduce them properly, then Kurokawa does not "suddenly care" about her friends, she only cared about being part of the group (/a group) from the start. At least that is the way I read it, since she had strong opinions on fitting into a role since the beginning, maybe as a way of explaining to herself why "princesses" got special treatment and had confidence.

Edit: TLDR Her "friends" not being introduced might just show that Kurokawa's relationship with them was shallow and she just cared about not being alone, which is also the only thing she explicitly states.

last edited at Sep 8, 2018 9:07AM