Hey!

Thank you Thiaguinho-sama for understanding. I got to admit it's a cliché to start the entrance with "I have been lurking around..." but it is the truth for some of us. some people do go to certain threads to read coments for entainment, insights, updates... I usually make comments in threads that I found interesting or have personal connections with. I happened to join this thread when things weren't in a peaceful period-it was not an ideal period. the topic at that moment peaked my interest, so I voided my opinion on the matter from a spectator's point of view. I just felt the need to explain my cliché entrance.

Anyway, I am here on dynasty to chill to get my mind off of things. Reality really bites sometimes. btw, I am a she

jmv
That comment of mine wasn't referring to the accuser (pSUdologia), and I think that one nezchan's comment wasn't responding to any comment of the accuser's either. Anyway, I still believe that the age of your account does not add up or diminish a convincibility of your statements. As for pSUdologia, I would say that their statements were not so convincing because they lacked of proofs.

okay, if u say so. if I remember correctly pSUdologia started the argument.

jmv
I m from Indonesia. Its humid all the time here...

Cool. Indonesia is one of several countries that I would like to visit in the future. Let's see how life panned out for me in the next few years

like I care

have u read fluttering feelings? it is my favorite.

OMG, mine too! I'm still in denial about the news from Ssamba. T_T

yeah, it's saddened to hear the author's condition. I hope she will stay strong & positive. I knew two people who were battling with lung cancer last year. they were such strong people.

I recommend the love doctor Manhwa if u have not read it. It is pretty good so far. The series is up to chapter 9 now.

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olive

That's not very convincing coming from an account created yesterday with only two posts, both on this topic.
But enough with the meta comments. There's nothing to be gained by further derailing/attention-seeking.

Yeah, that's the logic..

That's definitely not a logic. Not every old account user's opinions are right or very convincing, neither every new account user's are wrong or less convincing.

to me it is logical to question the accuser's new account. of course there r angles we have to take into consideration. not saying old accts/regulars are more trustworthy than the new acts. however, old accts usually give a glimpse of the owners. In this case, we dont know anything abt the accuser. their first post was to claim someone of using multiple accts. where is the credibility? my first thoughts - that's very convincing coming from a new account. supposed the claim was true, then what's in it for the accuser? why would a spectator get offended? I could only think the regulars in this thread may have issues.

Anyway, personal I don't care people using multiple accounts as long as they dont have ill intentions. .

Rainy

Oh hello :) and welcome to this thread..

thank you

Where are you from? If I may know?

I live in Texas. It is so freaking hot n humid here in the summer. I can tolerate hot temperature but not humidity. where do u live?

Anyway, anyone is reading the love doctor manhwa. So far, I think it is really interesting (not as interesting as ff but it is new and refreshing).

Sorry, I havent read that, and I even havent read wdtfs for months.. I come to Dynasty only for this thread recently.. I will read that if I can find sometime free..

Sumin has been such a weak & indecisive fool.
have u read fluttering feelings? it is my favorite.

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hello,
I have been lurking in this thread every now and then. so with all the commotion, I decided to join this thread. the drama fr yesterday was really interesting & kinda funny-creating/using a new account to accuse someone of having multiple accounts.

Anyway, anyone is reading the love doctor manhwa. So far, I think it is really interesting (not as interesting as ff but it is new and refreshing).

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I personally don't think sending your messages to Ssamba is a good option. You can't expect everyone to send her positive messages. She may need to go through reading a few negative ones in order to reach yours. You remember the top comments on Comico about her hiatus, right? Is it not highly likely that the owners of those comments may also send her messages? I think I'm talking about posting on her blog.

I can see your point there, nothing wrong with wanting to protect someone fr getting hurt, but Ssamba can definately take on those negatives emails/posts. I dont think the author's skin is that thin.

So what if they translate only the main point of the message. We then add that translated message to the original. So we send both the translation and the original message.

I second Martian's suggestion above.

Dear Ssamba,

I was lost for a few minutes after reading your health updates. Sadness started to creep into my heart. I dont know you, yet I feel like I know you through Fluttering Feelings. Your story brings peace & smiles to my face. It reminds me that I am not the only idealist in this fast-paced world. The romance is still existed. I want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart for bringing Fluttering Feelings into my life. I am truly grateful. Your writings & your drawings make Seol-a & No-Rae seem real. I am not going to pretend to know how you feel, or what you have been going through. I wish you all the best. Stay strong & positive! Cervantes is dead on when he said the journey is so much better than the end. Life usually doesn't take us where we intended to go, but I think just to end up where we needed to be is good enough.

Until next time,

JM

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Thanks Newp for the translation.

An islamic act of terrorism already devolved into comments on gun controls, only on the 2nd page.

Maybe if he had used bombs you would be blaming fertilizer?

did he use bomb? how r they the same in comparision? If there were proper gun controls in place for the assault rifles/automatic weapons, this tragedy wouldnt have happened. I am for the second amendment-plan to get a chl by year end. However, I am supporting for more gun controls, especially on those assault rifles.

^I am in

I am at lost for words. I had uneasy feelings awhile back when the author said she's having stomach issues. It is serious enough to take more than two weeks off. I have had stomach problems in the past several years but never had to take a week off.

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laws wont completely solve gun violent. however, they can reduce/ prevent mass shootings. guns dont kill people, but automatic weapons can.

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Interesting thread. jmv, I would suggest reading the first part of this story, if you have not done it already. While I do agree an age gap relationship where one party is rather young can be problematic from a variety of reasons, this particular piece manages to circumvent all of such instances.

I did read the first part...still cannot get over the girl is a 16 years old. If the girl was 18, I dont think I would find it creepy bc the girl would be an adult, not a HS student.

Also, the "I just expressed my opinion and did not expect others to agree" is pure nonsense.

You found this age gap to be creepy. Fine. Someone said they do not see it that way. Also fine. But then, instead of just saying it was your personal opinion, you went with legal standpoint. Legal. Standpoint. Followed by such lovely statements as 16 years old is not mature to enter into a relationship with an adult. The adult should know better to not take advatage of the younger even though the younger is the instigator. (By the by, how is the younger one being taken advantage of, exactly, when she is the one doing the pursuing?) Those are statements. You did not say "my opinion is", you just stated these things as facts. Followed by Imagine how the parents of girl feel abt the relationship, which is just an appeal to people's emotions, imagine-this, imagine-that, how-would-you-feel-if-you-were-a-parent. And then, well, everyone likes happy ending, & this is yuri. so I guess most people r okay with it, which is just a nice way of dismissing anyone who liked this, on the grounds 'oh, it is yuri'. But that was just not enough, so it is legal but that doesnt mean it is moral, bringing the morality into it when the legal standpoint failed (which again has me wondering if you ever read the first part, immorality is probably the one thing no one thought about when reading this story). some people tend to abide & live by a set of values, while other dont. Here, again, you were dismissive, even rudely so, with people who do not share your opinion. You did not say "I have values, they have different values". No. What you said sounds more like you having values, while they have none. Which is a negative thing to say about other people, since I am struggling to see how 'you have no values' could be construed as anything other than an insult. a high schooler = KID. But it is not just high school students, is it? You said 'under 20', which also disqualifies quite a bit of the college population as well, since around half the college students are 18-20. You are free to set your own personal line wherever you want, and that is perfectly fine, but I just wanted to say this was the first instance I saw someone dismissing college students on the grounds of age. 16 years old is not enough in any case when the other party is an adult. a high schooler = KID. does it normal to see a 40 years old man dating a 16 years old high school girl? See, I am again wondering if we read the same work. And this is the second time you are giving the "16 is not old enough, in any case". Combined with that pure addressed-to-yuri-fans-who-can-not-see-anything-wrong 'just imagine if it was a male doing it'. You are not stating your opinions. You are preaching. Since you started, discussions about the legal age of consent have replaced discussing the chapter itself. Not complaining, though, since I find these things to be fun, but there are better suited works for such things than this particular manga, since basically nothing you said has any bearing on the actual work in question.

so I see u misunderstood my comment. I didnt expect people to agree with me when I said personally I would still feel wrong not date someone who is under 20 (meaning when I am 41). I am in my early 30s now, I still wouldnt date someone who is under 20. To me, like I am taking advantage of the youngster. I know I am quite old fashion & overprotected -I am told quite often. So this's my opinion.

Now when it comes a 16 years old high school girl dating a 41 years old adult, it is a complete different issue. Moral & legal all come into play. I found it is wrong for a full-grown adult dating a 16 years old girl-whether it is legal or not. so, if I sounded preachy then okay.

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Your feeling of "wrongness" stems from your culture, our era and your own prejudice. At some other times and places, it's perfectly ok.

I'm not someone who would deny the reality of someone's love based on some arbitrary number, or even based on their gender. A lower limit is necessary, but 16 is enough in most cases, if there's no abuse.

first, u dont know me so dont assume where my feeling is stemming from. that's very unattractive.

what era r we living in? an era where it is perfectly peachy as long as it is legal? possibly to some. it is legal but that doesnt mean it is moral. some people tend to abide & live by a set of values, while other dont. that is why I said 'personally.' I didnt expect others to agree with me.

16 years old is not enough in any case when the other party is an adult. a high schooler = KID. does it normal to see a 40 years old man dating a 16 years old high school girl?

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Age gap is tricky. It can be uncomfortable depending on how it's done.

This one is well done and I don't feel the creepiness you are all talking about.

from the legal standpoint, the 41 years old woman would go to jail if they lived in the states. 16 years old is not mature to enter into a relationship with an adult.

Uh no. Age of consent is 16 almost everywhere (lower in some countries) and in most states anyway.

If she was under 16, yeah. But since she's over 16 and the relationship is not abusive (or exploitative), this is legal.

so I did a quick seach of age of consent in the States -http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/age-of-consent-by-state.html. it varies in each state. It appears the 41 years old would be prosecuted in almost half of the states. personally, I'd still feel wrong to date someone who is under 20

Age gap is tricky. It can be uncomfortable depending on how it's done.

This one is well done and I don't feel the creepiness you are all talking about.

from the legal standpoint, the 41 years old woman would go to jail if they lived in the states. 16 years old is not mature to enter into a relationship with an adult. The adult should know better to not take advatage of the younger even though the younger is the instigator. Imagine how the parents of girl feel abt the relationship. well, everyone likes happy ending, & this is yuri. so I guess most people r okay with it.

As nice as this was, did anyone else find it a bit creepy that a 25 year age gap story has a title that talks about ripening fruit?

25 years difference is no problem bc like someone has said before age is just a number. However, I find it creepy when a 41 years old woman dating a 16 years old.

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I've read yuri for so many years and have never found any other manga that I could connect to this much like FF. After the hiatus I seriously felt quite indifferent towards the rest and had no motivation to read anymore.

I feel the same way. I didnt bother to read wdtfs in the past 6/7 weeks. the drawing is beautiful but I just don't relate to any of the three characters.

I hope Ssamba's health is improving. it is no fun when u r sick-cant work, cant love, cant protect...feel so helpless imo. my health is not in the best shape so I am quite familiar with the feelings. ff set the bar so high for me. luckily, I have cung khuynh novel to read in spare time. I highly recommend the novel if u have not read it.

really hope for a new chapter tomorrow

hope Ssamba will be fully recovered soon! good health is the most important thing in life

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And I don't see how threesome can be the worst ending, polygamy exists, sharing is caring after all ♥

"sharing is caring" is true in most case except when it come to love. Personally, I would rather walk away.