Anyways, I hope I managed to better express my thoughts

I'm glad you elaborated on your perspective, I found this reply a lot more interesting than your first one.

Anyways, get help from someone trained and leave us alone.

I spent 3 years trying to help that friend before jumping ship.

I think this is personally where I found issue with Shimamura's writing, though. It's one thing to get tired of trying to help someone who can't help themselves over a prolonged period of time, but... surely you wouldn't tell somebody their friendship wasn't worth bothering with the first time they came to you as a blubbering mess? I think the world would be a pretty depressing place if we could never seek emotional support from our friends in our time of need, lest we risk losing the friendship, because we didn't immediately seek therapy. That's why I perceive Shimamura to be uncharacteristically callous here. Even though it's certainly in her nature to do whatever's most convenient for her, she also usually does the bare minimum to keep the people around her satisfied too.

Others here have addressed Shimamura's apathetic personality, and I agree with them, so I'll skip reiterating what's been said on that topic.

Personally, I'd say the world is full of supportive people. I certainly was at the start. My current callous attitude stems from a rather depressing experience trying to support a friend. My "seek therapy not me" belief is because I failed. I knew my friend from the age of 11 and was friends from the age of 14. All those years together, and I failed.

Alright, enough about my own emotional baggage. Regarding Adachi and Shimamura, they haven't known each other that long, and are certainly not "close". Thus far, all attempts to close the distance have been made by Adachi, and frankly, she is a blundering fool at this, and there are reasons for that. All this, coupled with Shimamura's apathetic personality, is what drove the "you're a pain" response.

Bad writing would be not providing reasons, rooted in the characters lived experiences and personalities, for Adachi's breakdown nor Shimamura's response

That is literally what the person you're replying to is claiming, though. I don't agree with them that Adachi's breakdown was out of character (I thought it was very well depicted, actually, as someone who was an extremely dependent and jealous teenager myself), but Shimamura's response doesn't feel very Shimamura to me at all, and that's the point they were making. Clearly you disagree, but you should make your disagreement on that axis; trying to tell them what "bad writing" is when what you wrote actually lines up with exactly what they wrote in different words comes off as not really replying to what they said.

Ah, you are correct. Please bear in mind that I am not a wordsmith of any means. If I was, I'd get paid for it.

Allow me to be more direct. I agree with motormind's definition of bad writing. I strongly disagree with their conclusion that this is a badly written story event. Adachi has been very well portrayed and buildup to her breakdown event began in volume 1. Shimamura's portrayal is lacking in the manga (LN does a far better job), but her actions are very much realistic. How so? Someone she had a mild interest in called her and had an emotional breakdown over the phone. Her response? "I don't currently feel like dealing with the mess you are" (or something along those lines). I dumped a 12y friendship for the same reason. Fact is, some people in this world can't be bothered to help those who are an emotional mess. Too much effort. Does this make me (or Shimamura) a callous bitch? Idk or really care. Shimamura, whom I obviously identify with, is a selfish individual. Such individuals tend to stear clear of "blubbering messes" as dealing with those take a lot of time and effort and often never really get sorted out. There are professionals that specialize in helping those with emotional.. issues? Idk a polite way to say it. Anyways, get help from someone trained and leave us alone.

I will note that we have not yet seen Shimamura's internal dialogue of the current situation. Perspectives matter... I spent 3 years trying to help that friend before jumping ship.

Anyways, I hope I managed to better express my thoughts, upsetting as some may find them. If not, well, at least I tried.

I suppose a manga is really good if it makes different people hate one of the persons, but a different one to someone else, to the point they want to stop reading. I'm not sure if feelings of that much uncomfortable are a good thing for an artist to create, but it shows skill.

I disagree. The main problem I have with this story is that Adachi and Shimamura are clearly being made to behave in certain ways for dramatic effect, and not necessarily because it makes sense. Yes, Adachi was fascinated by Shimamura from the start, and it took quite a while to realize her own feelings. Shimamura, in turn, was always depicted as cautious, overly polite and somewhat baffled by the affection thrown her way by Adachi (and others). She never outright pushed Adachi away though, as she wondered about her own interest in that girl. It was subtle, sweet, sometimes heart-wrenching, but never dipped into straight-up melodrama.

Until now, that is. For some reason, the author deemed it fit to make have Adachi regress into a blubbering mess over Shimamura, and to turn Shimamura in a callous b*tch who just don't give a damn. None of this makes any sense within what was established about those two before, so what the heck happened?

Well, bad writing. That's what happened. My best guess is that the author simply has no clue how to prolong the subtle conflict and give any of the girls a convincing character arc. The "solution:" exaggerate the girls' personality traits the point of caricature. The result is a jarring mess that leaves me scratching my head, to say the least.

Bad writing would be not providing reasons, rooted in the characters lived experiences and personalities, for Adachi's breakdown nor Shimamura's response. These reasons are present in this work, and have been subtly and not so subtly hinted at since volume 1. Many other fourm posts cover these. Perhaps give them a read.

To both points above, strong emotional responses from readers is not indicative of good writing. The depth of character and world building are. Characters are fictional people, and all people have a reason behind their actions, even if it be unknown to the individual acting. The same is true of societies. And all worlds are based upon a core set of rules (i.e. Newtonian Laws). A good writer builds this into the story. This is, by the by, what divides hard science fiction & fantasy from simple scifi and fantasy. Jared Sanderson from Stephenie Meyer.

Dat credits page tho. "The fonts are mid and we have redrawers"

26 is middle aged?

God I hope not. I'm already 26.

While I do need to re-read this chapter while sober, I must say hot damn that was one hell of a finale note reimei (author-sama) left us. I greatly appreciate authors who put this much thought into their works.

OH MY GOD, SHE'S DEAD! What a dramatic way to end the story.

(Joking around)

one of the tropes I hate the most seems to be a staple of yuri manga sadly (bath fainting)

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I don't mind the rainstorm trope. Healthy young adult fainting in the bath, though? Come on.

I'm a "healthy young adult", sometimes I still get really dizzy if I stand up quickly and basically fall over (not often enough to be concerning). I've just never had that happen to me in a bath. So it's not too far-fetched.

Yeah I know people that get dizzy easily, standing up too fast, getting out of bed too fast, and so fourth can make them fall over, or even pass out completely. Baths/Showers can be really dangerous with the heat, so it's definitely not just some "manga trope".

I am questioning y'alls health

Gee, doc, since you apparently have a medical degree, maybe you should re-read the chapter on “low blood pressure.”

that sounds like a problem that can be fixed by consuming more blood

Half true. Consumption of foods high in iron can help reduce low blood pressure. Also avoiding certain foods and drinks that which thin blood, such as certain teas, can reduce the likelihood of fainting.

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Turns out ogre horns get really bad mpg

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where are their parents?

On a business trip

People, chill. I'm not here to see the Nez-bans, amusing as they are.

What's with the sad stuff today?

I dunno man, she still seems really pretty to me, even with the scars. Actually... is it bad I kinda like them?

Scars are hot.

So do I suggest the Smell tag for this chapter or the whole comic?

These credit pages have been getting more savage by the year.

Should ANY of this be viewed by young children!?

I have several questions regarding the anatomy of a slime. Suffice to say, if one can get through that filtration system, they are potentially indestructible with the exception of evaporation. Thus, use fire.

"This is non-fiction."

Remind me, who is Lord Lambert?

Vice captain of the Order of the Academy, Lene's brother, and a magical tool researcher

Also the one who examined Dede's wand.

Comprehension is lacking here. Maybe sobriety will help.

Hell of a thing to read while drunk

I'm feeling big gay energy.

Just discovered this is actually a self-published Pixiv series, so there's another four chapters until we're all caught up.

Did you get new goggles?

Well, the sentient car theory just became a bust.

I seem to have missed this theory. What about a sentient car?

It took me about 30 minutes to find this. Credit for the theory goes to ChaoticLion. The second bit is me extrapolating on the theory, because clearly a car can't do live birth.

Guys, what if the parents ARE that car?!

I've seen a lot of things in my life. Talking cars, cats turning into cars, even sentient motorcycles. But never have I ever seen a car spawn a human child.

So new theory, the car is Nikaidou's ADOPTIVE parents. It found her while on a humanitarian mission countering human trafficking/experementation. A small African nation was trying to create test tube super soldiers and she was the result of that project.

That last line involving "hair" killed me XD

the artist also works on another isekai manga. its het though. has an mc that isekais to the same world while asleep and a elf girl. I thought their art looked familar.

Welcome to Japan, Ms Elf

Wait WHAT?!