I get what you mean, totally totally. I don't mean, drawing women exactly like bara (overtly fat, muscular and hairy to giant proportions) but I guess what I mean is I want a terminology like bara that's meant to denote lesbian media and content that's made by lesbians and tends to have art cues that are a tad more realistic. Similar to the connotations of bara if that makes sense. The closest I could think of is maybe Josei GL that has a non-moe art style.
Oh I understand. Obviously by and for who is important, but the real difference between yaoi and bara is the body type. If a type of yuri that was mostly hairy, fat women having sex existed, I am sure that many readers of “conventional yuri” wouldn't read it, and that a separation between readers would exist. The non-moe tag certainly has more “realistic” art styles but the women and girls in it are still bishojo or conventionally beautiful.
The other crucial difference is also in how the story develops. Bara authors consider yaoi too “emotional”, basically bara is like hentai and yaoi is like shojo with smut. It’s a lot about “this makes me horny and this doesn’t make me horny” type of mentality when you read interviews, very interesting.
I do remember a lesbian japanese artist (the organizer of the ButchxButch anthology) saying something similar in her twitter, that she use yuri because it would reach more people, basically for marketing reasons. Not that she doesn’t like yuri or that yuri can not be lesbian but that a “lesbian” genre didn’t exist.
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