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I don't think Hinako thinks they're dating, but I do think she's noticed the change in Tsukushi and is trying to set boundaries until she's sure that Tsukushi likes her as well. So I think Tsukushi will have to confess.

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54 pages in the forum...

I know this is just me being negative but I'm kinda scared of how good and popular the reaction was with this manga, with just a few chapters with few pages and we're almost 10 pages in the forum.

It was bad when it was 10 pages, now we're at 54.
ngl I feel you, it's kind of irksome that so many amazing series only get a limited number of reactions while this with a few 4-page chapters of silliness boils such fervor. In ex. Lilies, Voice, Wear Wind at four whole volumes doesn't have even half the number.

It's partly about expectations. A really serious, slow burning series won't garner immediate reactions the way this one will, but it might have a long tail of people getting into it and becoming passionate about it.

In this manga's favor, the art is really, really good. The characters are really well defined for how many pages and chapters this has gone on. Mitsuki and Aya feel like they exist in this world beyond say the tropes of extrovert/introvert or gyaru/plain, and the art helps with making their expressiveness be part of their characterization. Plus, although we've been in a bit of a holding pattern as far as their relationship, things like chapter 5 and the way Aya asks for her number really has that Reiwa energy, and everyone gets hyped about "progress".

Also, and I do think this contributes more than might be expected, they're not particularly moe. "Cute" type girls are overrepresented in manga, and while gyaru are having a resurgence at the moment, alt-style girls are pretty rare. I can think of one other manga that has an alt-style girl lead. Variety in character can feel really refreshing after reading the same type of thing over and over again. "Cool" girls are pretty common, especially in yuri, but most of the cool girls are identifiable by short hair and being good at sports, and most of them still look generic. Mitsuki's style is pretty rare in manga.

Personally I think it's mostly that this series is incredibly short and easy to consume, it's very simple and straight forward. People tend to enjoy very quick to consume content, it's why Vine was popular and TikTok is now so popular. Along with media clips getting a ton of attention and so fourth. People like short and easy to consume content, and then to go about their day. I also think it's that this series is more on the Western side than a lot of manga, and it heavily leans into Western music, so there's an easy amount of relatability for a Western audience.

I think short content being easy to consume can be a factor, but I'm not sure how much it matters for manga. Regularity and having an initial hook seem much more important for something to blow up rather than length. Some things just hit a nerve. The Western side of it definitely is a factor, although I don't think the music necessarily is. I don't think a lot of teenagers even in the West are going gaga for Aerosmith or Black Sabbath. But the idea of having different personas at school and at home, of different personas among friends and a crush, of getting along with people but not necessarily having the same interests, those are universal concepts.

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54 pages in the forum...

I know this is just me being negative but I'm kinda scared of how good and popular the reaction was with this manga, with just a few chapters with few pages and we're almost 10 pages in the forum.

It was bad when it was 10 pages, now we're at 54.
ngl I feel you, it's kind of irksome that so many amazing series only get a limited number of reactions while this with a few 4-page chapters of silliness boils such fervor. In ex. Lilies, Voice, Wear Wind at four whole volumes doesn't have even half the number.

It's partly about expectations. A really serious, slow burning series won't garner immediate reactions the way this one will, but it might have a long tail of people getting into it and becoming passionate about it.

In this manga's favor, the art is really, really good. The characters are really well defined for how many pages and chapters this has gone on. Mitsuki and Aya feel like they exist in this world beyond say the tropes of extrovert/introvert or gyaru/plain, and the art helps with making their expressiveness be part of their characterization. Plus, although we've been in a bit of a holding pattern as far as their relationship, things like chapter 5 and the way Aya asks for her number really has that Reiwa energy, and everyone gets hyped about "progress".

Also, and I do think this contributes more than might be expected, they're not particularly moe. "Cute" type girls are overrepresented in manga, and while gyaru are having a resurgence at the moment, alt-style girls are pretty rare. I can think of one other manga that has an alt-style girl lead. Variety in character can feel really refreshing after reading the same type of thing over and over again. "Cool" girls are pretty common, especially in yuri, but most of the cool girls are identifiable by short hair and being good at sports, and most of them still look generic. Mitsuki's style is pretty rare in manga.

flowsthead
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The 120% lewd is false advertising, more like 60% lol

Yeah the cover page is super lewd, so it is surprising that the actual chapter isn't. Still hot though.

flowsthead
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1) The art is amazing.
2) I want 500 more chapters. That was so hot.
3) Viva Reiwa! Long live the Gyaru supremacy!

flowsthead
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What do you think would be worse, if they actually acted on their, presumed, romantic feelings for each other and kissed (or more) before Kaori dies, or if it's all left as subtext?

flowsthead
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I didn’t realize they’re in-game characters. Anyways, I was referring to mafuyu’s mother: she should have kept better tabs on her daughter as ena is halfway there to derail mafuyu’s education. As for the dad, I don’t care as there wasn’t enough inferences as to how mean he is. Maybe allowing mafuyu (and readers) to overhear a telephone conversation between Ena and her dad would portray the father as abusive or insensitive (to Ena’s wishes to become a painter).

The whole point of doujins is that it's up to the readers to know the background. Saying "I don't know and don't care" about a work based on an existing setting is dumb.

Ehh, I think it's a matter of perspective. People that seek out doujins based on a work they like or want to see more of have that attitude, but people who are just browsing this site and reading random doujins will obviously not know the background. I don't know the original story, and I don't think this story needs extra background as I think things are clear enough to know there are family problems for both, but someone feeling like it's missing some context isn't wrong just because this is a doujin.

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So many people are willing to give Jerkface another chance one he said he'd keep his mouth shut, but he confirmed his jerkface status when he realized that Aya was into Mitsuki/Shop Clerk and his first inclination was to suggest that he could join in with them in their relations. I understand that impulse to want to watch/join/admire two (or more) attractive women enjoy each other's company, but to suggest that, out loud, to her face, in public (since she was at work), was a true jerkface move. It totally cemented his status as sleaze in my mind.

Yep I'm worried about this as well. I try and give people the benefit of doubt and give others a second chance but the first thing I thought of is he's gonna attempt to blackmail her eventually. Hoping he's not as much of a jerkface as it's lead onto believe though. But I def foresee some kind of blackmail in the future.

Riiiiiight bc Boys and Girls cant be friends or that a boy cant be friends with 2 girls without having "threesome" reasons in mind right? Thats bs

No, guys and girls (of any age group/gap) CAN be friends without any of the physical aspects. It wasn't my intention to say that can't happen. My reading of that character and his intentions, based on his behavior and introduction, gives me reason to doubt his sincerity for any kind of friendship that doesn't involve the physical aspects. It's been my own experience that anyone who would try to manipulate people based on their own outer attractiveness (his introduction), isn't too far away from taking that next step down 'that' path. (Not trying to be mysterious or obtuse, I'm trying to not be crass or straight up obscene).

I think he's just a bit of a narcissist. I don't think there's anything romantic or malicious involved, he just thinks each of them is individually super cool and subconsciously thinks he can raise his status by hanging out with these two really cool girls.

At least that's how it reads to me. He needs a humbling, but at the moment at least he's not actively bad.

flowsthead
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I really miss Mangadex comment section. At least there I don't have to scroll and read through all these fucking idiotic comments.

Not to harp on this since a lot of other people have already answered, but there were a fair amount of homophobic comments in the MD comments section. MD was pretty good about getting rid of them from mods and reports, but either way it attracted a crowd I didn't really like.

flowsthead
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Ok, this makes a lot more sense with chapter 0 added in, but I have different concerns now. The oneshot had good pacing, but the first chapter on a second read through still feels like it's paced very poorly. I'll hold it making a final decision when chapter 2 comes out, but this might just not be for me.

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Honestly, looks like it'd be too much to keep up with as an ongoing series. Maybe I'll get back to this in a few years, once it is is complete (if it doesn't get the ax).

MU says it's complete at 3 volumes.

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Delinquent x Prez is the obvious draw since it bookends the chapter, but I'm digging the vibe of the bottom of page 36 to page 37. Drama club girl + headphones girl? Hopefully it's those two, some of the intended couples are hard to tell. That kind of slow mo with the scent and the casual way they wave at each other just feels really comfy. I like that energy a lot.

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Jin-ran is 100% correct. Botan has been flirting from day one, but considering how often they get drunk together, how has she still not made a move? It's absurd.

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^ Well, there are two girls fighting over her now.

Harem confirmed.

No, the other girl is fighting over Kaori, not Kaguhara. So she wouldn't be part of Kaguhara's harem.

I think you both should wait for future chapters before you settle on who’s harem this is lol

Things can always change, I just meant there is no harem at the moment. Kaori seems unconsciously interested in Kaguhara, and that's about all we can say at the moment.

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^ Well, there are two girls fighting over her now.

Harem confirmed.

No, the other girl is fighting over Kaori, not Kaguhara. So she wouldn't be part of Kaguhara's harem.

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So far it seems like all of the chapters have been variations on a fetish for sweat. Does anyone know if there will be other fetishes, or is her main fetish just sweat and then we'll see a hundred versions of that?

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....what?

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I guess this is a way to avoid a love triangle or square by forming a side ship. That's nice and all, but how our main ship actually gets together!

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No kissing till after marriage? Alright Riri is out. I can't ship that.

But that will make it exciting when she realizes she really, REALLY wants to kiss her... far, far before marriage~

Ehh. I can see the appeal for others, but personally I'm not into that. That's a level of conservative or naivete that would make me worried about everything else.

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No kissing till after marriage? Alright Riri is out. I can't ship that.

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No new chapter this week. But Sumiko posted an art of what happened after Ch.10
https://twitter.com/agu_knzm/status/1548509521068273667
Ch 10.1?

This just makes me want Aya to find out faster. Girl is so down bad.

flowsthead
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Man, you people are pretty mean. Sure, “one half of a couple thinks they’re drifting apart but the other person is really doing something nice to surprise their partner” has been seen before—in fact it’s a time-honored piece of fluff.

Just because the tune is old dooesn’t mean it’s a bad song.

Yeah but execution matters, and it's a lot more excusable for a bunch of teenagers dealing with first love, than adults who should know better that you're supposed to plan for shit.

flowsthead
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->You see that GF i searching an estate
-> You spotted said GF in front of the estate with another girl
-> Somehow you can't make 1+1 and realise it's just the real estate agent and jump to the worst conclusion and nearly break up.

The story is nice but by god she is a bit dumb.

I do think it was obvious how it was going to go, and she should have at least considered the real estate agent possibility, but the other girl isn't any better. Surprise parties work on the theory that you still communicate that something is happening, just not the specific thing you're going to do. If you're not communicating at all, then what if you both plan something for the night as a surprise?

They're both idiots.

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Really short chapter. 5 pages?

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Oh no, Mitsuki is totally getting outted.

Also, I like how Aya is a nice gyaru. You see too many bratty asshole Gyaru who mock the nerdy quiet girls in manga, but no, Aya is just chill and only calls people out when they are, in fact, being jerkfaces. Good person.

Maybe back in the day, I feel like in the Reiwa era almost all the gyaru are nice girls at heart.