Note: I love her too.

I cannot help but admire Hinako's earnest wish for death.

I can. Get a grip, girl. Your parents would want you to live. You've got a friend who would give her tails to help you live. You'll never forget your family, you'll always mourn them, but there's plenty worth living for and your family would want you to find it.

You're right, of course. But it kinda ruins story of the romance of Hinako with her death wish.

Time to give up on the brothels. Nao seems like she'd do her best to satisfy you. I'm sure you could teach her a few tricks you've learned, Asumi.

It's nice that it has been so long since I read the LN chapters, I can't actually remember what happens.

What, you mean every manga drawing of a girl in pants ever has her wearing the wrong size?
Who woulda thought...

Ai really knows exactly how to make everything more dramatic and awkward than it needs to be.

Ruriko: gives a hug
Kurumi: surprised pikachu face

That expression when Kurumi was being hugged was just priceless.
Stop being stingy with the hugs now! Do it all the time.

You gotta wonder why the Magia Trio are chasing them at all. They do nothing to people. They just turn up, and the magical girls are immediately like "evildoers, we will destroy you".

It's kinda like they deserve the torture they get...

Like, they don't seem to even be smart enough to notice Baiser isn't killing them even though she has every opportunity to.

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I might point out that wrapping amour around breasts is still poor design.
Then again, I might not.

You never know what you're going to get with a yandere tag, but I suppose the addition of the violence tag should have given it away

All that said, I think this isn't really the venue for deep ethical exploration. It's a romantic comedy, and the ultimate answer is going to be, look, SHE thinks she loves you, SHE thinks she wants sex, and that is in the end not less real for having been built in, so why not give her what she wants? I'm not saying that's actually a decisive argument, although it's fairly defensible. But it's the line a romantic comedy has to take, overtly or tacitly.

Your "it's just a romantic comedy, there's no ethical dilemma here" theory is debunked by the fact that the ethical dilemma is actually part of the story and has been referenced multiple times. So ...

As for AI, you couldn't make it functional without giving it some impulse and drives, otherwise it would just sit there. Whatever it wants, or has the capability of wanting, is going to be your choice. And from harm/consent moralities, it's hardly obvious that there's something wrong with building it to want to serve you. You're not harming it, because it wants to do that, and 'consent' is N/A for something that didn't exist before you built it. Children can't consent to being born (with totally random gene sorts! no quality control at all!), but we have them anyway.

Never thought I'd see someone comparing sex bots to children. If you don't see the logical flaw in comparing being born and then being able to do whatever you want, vs being born to do just one thing that basically makes you a slave of your "parent" or someone they sell you to, then ... hmmm...

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Plot twist: the whole group of sex-bot-owners are in the same situation as her, and this whole thing is basically an AI training situation trying to get them to have some semblance of choice.

I appreciate that her tongue is kind of heart-shaped.

It's because no monster has gotten close enough to actually eat her yet. Sheeze, I bet you just love poking holes in movie logic. Don't you. LoL.

As a matter of fact I do. But I like picking apart internally incoherent fanwanks even more. ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯

I understand that's a pastime you enjoy, but can you maybe ... stop? It was interesting to entertain the theory for a while, but this is supposed to be a discussion thread on the actual story in front of us, and you're really filling the pages with unnecessary stuff.

I just read the whole thing so far without coming to the comments at all, having my own thoughts about everything. I was thinking about how our world has a sort of "no forgiveness" feel to it, like, if you do something bad once in your life and now you suffer: good, you deserve it. No catharsis for you, go ahead and die.

I was thinking about how nice it was that this manga had a different perspective: that a perpetrator also has the right to move on from their wrongdoing of the past, that they also deserve to live, even though they can't take back the pain they've caused.

Then I came to the comments section. Of course there are too many people with a "no forgiveness" world view, that it's somehow selfish to want to move on. These people think they've never done anything in their lives they would need forgiveness for, but I can assure you, no matter how strongly you believe you've lived a perfect life and never hurt anyone, you have. You may have even traumatised someone (I have tiny one-off things that traumatised me that the perpetrator would never have realised, I'm sure you also have some).

So my rant is basically: bah, why can't people understand that we're just human and need forgiveness from ourselves and others, and to be able to move on. Ruri doesn't have to forgive her, that's for sure. But both of them need to be given that option, and Shizuku needs the catharsis of forgiving herself, and for someone else (Kaori) to forgive her as an outsider too. Ruri possibly also needed to confront the idea at least once in her life that her bully is also just a person, not just an evil entity, so she can get more of a perspective on the mistakes people can make in the world (again, not necessary for her to forgive, but it's a good thing to have more of a full picture of the world).

Yeah, and as for the most recent chapter: I've been thinking for a while now, how did Kaori expect this to go? Yeah, she wanted to reach out to a classmate and help her to be closer to her old self before she most likely passes on, and especially once she found out Shizuku was suicidal, but then what? Make the loner with no one rely on you, then disappear forever, leaving her even more confused and alone than she had been. Her "let's break up" reaction kind of shows how poorly thought out the ending of her plan was. If she had told Shizuku herself much earlier, maybe some of the pain could have been avoided.

I don't follow this any more. I took a glance, and I still cofused. How come after 100 chapters,they still use Honorifix?

Did you happen to notice the Idiot Couple tag?

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Good to see a big busted girl in a manga put on a sports bra to run.

The rest was entirely too much changing for me though. Lol.

Also, I wish I had the money to buy bras in all colours for moods. Can only have a few, so it's beige, white, black.

Lol, I'm loving these debates in the comments "are they the same person or not" when the answer is obviously both. At one point, they were one, then they weren't. It's selfcest and it's poly.

Essay time: If you make two items, and in this hypothetical you can make them perfectly identical down to the exact amount of atoms and energy stored in them, are they the same item? If your answer is "no" because they are different by being two items and not one, let me say that you don't have the same atoms you did 10 years ago but that was distinctly you, correct? (Hello, Ship Of Theseus)

If you say yes, I'll tell you no because there is two of them, and by existing in separate spots in space they receive and experience different energy loads via temperature and kinetic energy impartation and from the very start of their existences they had already diverged even if they were created at literally the same time.

They are the same person, by argument that they shared a common history but now one is different because of the nature of change over time, yet they are also distinct people because they are together but not literally the same object occupying one spot in space and experiencing the exact same thing.

Lol. Thank you for using logic to get to the bottom of this. It's what I've been thinking all along (there are two physical presences having separate experiences, hence they cannot be "the same person"). I just lack the scientific words to have said so earlier.

This manga is bonkers and funny. One of my favourites for sure.

^Nah I just think you're thinking way too hard about this lol

It may surprise you to learn that some people find thinking to be pleasant.

No need to be passive-aggressive

Lol. That's a super weird thing to say considering you were the one who started it.
Maybe ... let people have conversations about what they want to have conversations about and ignore it if you're not into it?

I always find meta commentary incredibly interesting, whether it's purposely part of a story or not.

It's too bad they don't have an attack mode. She deserved all the life sucked out of her.

That went way further than I expected it to.
Par for the course with this one - always doing something unexpected.

Doll up the Priestess. She'd definitely look good beside our demon king.

This is a big step. Wow.

Everyone seems so worried about the reaction of the parents without taking into account one big fact here: there's no way Misumi would have been so open with them with no hesitation whatsoever if she was in any way doubtful about their reaction to her preferences.
Now, the only thing she might not understand is the nuance of the law and the reaction of her parents' specifically to someone who is older...

Well that was not the scummy gap student I was expecting ;)