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Silly Wanko. Hollywood hasn't put out original movies in decades. It's all crappy remakes, crappy sequels, crappy ripoffs of those crappy remakes and crappy sequels, and comic book movies.

Edit: of course she might find a couple of high budge fancy remakes, or ripoffs of old good films.

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The more I read this, the more I like it. I like to see more manga were lesbians flip the script, on het stories.

On a unrelated note has anyone ever thought to translate a manga, and add their own humorous commentary Rifftrax/MST3K style. I don't know how the copywrite laws work but I can't imagine it's too much different than fan fiction rules.

Well, I mean, "fanfiction rules" is literally 'It's all illegal but the rights holders turn a blind eye because it mostly helps their business"

A fan translation with the original work contained within would definitely interfere with sales, so they'd probably go after it.

Really. That's a shame. I think it would be pretty funny too riff manga and anime.

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Having sex with a minor, in the back seat of a self driving car, while it's speeding down the highway! I'd love to see the arrest report if they got pulled over by the police.

Editted for better wording.

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The more I read this, the more I like it. I like to see more manga were lesbians flip the script, on het stories.

On a unrelated note has anyone ever thought to translate a manga, and add their own humorous commentary Rifftrax/MST3K style. I don't know how the copywrite laws work but I can't imagine it's too much different than fan fiction rules.

that usually happen with April fools chapters

The April fools chapters aren't quite what I'm talking about. I thinking along the lines of keeping the original text, and adding commentary boxes with jokes about the material.
If you're not familiar with Rifftrax or Mystery Science Theater 3000 they take old, and usually bad, movies and add a comedy commentary track. MST3K sets up a whole running subplot, about a mad scientist making a test subject, and his two robot pals, watch bad movies to monitor the test subject mind. It's good clean nerd entertainment.

Editted for clarity.

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The more I read this, the more I like it. I like to see more manga were lesbians flip the script, on het stories.

On a unrelated note has anyone ever thought to translate a manga, and add their own humorous commentary Rifftrax/MST3K style. I don't know how the copywrite laws work but I can't imagine it's too much different than fan fiction rules.

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By My Side discussion 26 Sep 02:08
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When I think about it more, the flower on Hikari's head symbolizes a brain illness. She kept her feelings to herself just so she wouldn't burden her sensei because it was worsening. She was bedridden and couldn't go to school. Sensei visited her and couldn't help but to confess anyway, and witnessed Hikari's last breath.

Those plants growing underneath those bandages Sensei was wearing were probably due to self-harm. She wanted to join Hikari so badly but waited until graduation. It was quite fishy because she knew when she would die after one of the students said she was retiring that year because Hikari didn't, which means she planned it all out. She ended her own life just to be with Hikari.

And now, they're together.

I actually didn't stop to think that everything could be a metaphor and not just fairy tale fantasy tragedy
This really opened my eyes

Murasakino always makes such thought provoking works

I got the impression the feelings Sensei felt were akin to guilt. She never really fell in love, yet Hikari loved her so much she wished herself into becoming flowers, just so Sensei would love her back. Sensei felt a strong need to join Hikari, and fulfill the girl's final desire.

But Sensei went to visit her even before finding out about her wish, didn't she?
To me her feelings read as love; or perhaps it was something between love and guilt. The way I saw it, she couldn't tell it was love, because she had been told that if she ever fell in love, she would immediately know, which wasn't the case for her.
In the end Sensei calls Hikari an idiot, presumably because she went and became a flower wishing that would earn Sensei's love. And she calls herself an idiot for following her. Hikari made that wish out of love, and the way this scene played out makes me feel that Sensei also followed her out of love.

Either way, I do believe that there was more to this story than the surface, just like You Are My Angela. What it made me think was how a person may wish to change in order to win another's love, without realising that the change is actually harmful to themselves. The interpretation of her having a fatal illness is definitely very on point, but somehow I want to tie it back to how this was her own wish and can't seem to quite grasp it. Maybe she had thought that she'd be able to get her attention if she were sick...?
Then again, perhaps there were more than one ideas put into this.

Anyway, very interesting story, and I'll definitely come back to it at some point.

Between love and guilt sounds about right to me. Remember Sensei did say she did feel affection for people before, just not love. She had affection for Hikari, so she visited with her while the girl went through her metamophosis. Then Hikari dropped the bomb shell about her wish. (Reading the part where Hikari saw Sensei's reaction to her wish, and realized she made a mistake broke my heart.) It was like finding out a person, who you could only ever see as a good friend, made major life altering and irreversible choice, in order to win your love. You might not love them, but you do care about them, and possibly feel responsible for what they have done.

Edit: Sensei did tell that boy, that asked her out at the end, that she didn't have anyone she liked.

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By My Side discussion 25 Sep 17:24
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When I think about it more, the flower on Hikari's head symbolizes a brain illness. She kept her feelings to herself just so she wouldn't burden her sensei because it was worsening. She was bedridden and couldn't go to school. Sensei visited her and couldn't help but to confess anyway, and witnessed Hikari's last breath.

Those plants growing underneath those bandages Sensei was wearing were probably due to self-harm. She wanted to join Hikari so badly but waited until graduation. It was quite fishy because she knew when she would die after one of the students said she was retiring that year because Hikari didn't, which means she planned it all out. She ended her own life just to be with Hikari.

And now, they're together.

I actually didn't stop to think that everything could be a metaphor and not just fairy tale fantasy tragedy
This really opened my eyes

Murasakino always makes such thought provoking works

I got the impression the feelings Sensei felt were akin to guilt. She never really fell in love, yet Hikari loved her so much she wished herself into becoming flowers, just so Sensei would love her back. Sensei felt a strong need to join Hikari, and fulfill the girl's final desire.

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By My Side discussion 24 Sep 22:10
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This reminded me of a super weird movie I watched once. It was about a boy, who fell in love with a girl, with a necrophilia fetish. He tried everything to get her to fall in love with him. He even pretended to be dead, but nothing worked. In the end he commited suicide, for her, and they finally ended up being together.

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Citrus + discussion 20 Sep 01:30
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cuuuuute

But it's weird seeing the responses here.

Of course Mei doesn't know what the fuck to do, she's an r*pe and assault victim who is now with a lovely golden retriever whom she does love.

Again, this assertion is based on no evidence in the text except a single unwelcome kiss from her (now ex-)fiancé in the very first chapter of the original series.

Nothing in all the many subsequent chapters has suggested that Mei now acts the way she does because she's a traumatized victim of sexual violence.

I find it weird that some people, in the comment sections, seem to find sexual assault around every corner, and others refuse to see it anywhere.

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I just read the revised story. And I have to say, seeing the proper dialog in it's intended context made it much clearer than just reading it in the comment section. I still am a tinsy bit confused about the MC sneaking into the boy's room. Were they living together, for some reason, or was she breaking into his house. What's the deal? If they were living together that's Okay... I guess? But a college girl breaking into a house, to sneak into an elementary schooler's room is mondo bizarro.

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^That girl seems the least likely girl to go yandere in existance lol? OR to drag the one of the 2 we know IS a lesbian into a relationship? If anything it will be the other way around. The Senpai is totaly childlike pretending to be cool.

As for the confession it was very funny because it was building it up then subverted that with a straightforward none angsty turn down- as was perfect for a comedy manga- whereas some serious past trauma would have been totally out of place here. Its like you are putting it down for not being a different type of manga.

Btw i dont even recall a single manga about a yandere sempai dragging some reluctant girl who admired her into a relationship. Are they really all over the place? That said i do tend to avoid that tag lol- maybe i missed them all.

You're technically correct. Sempi isn't yandere, nor do we know if she is a lesbian or not. However, it's practicality the same. The MC is dragged kicking and screaming into a relationship she doesn't really want. It looks like we will be given several chapters of the MC forced to give countless hugs and head pats, which will make her uncomfortable, but she'll do it anyway for a reason, that would only make sense in a manga. If this was just a gag manga, that would probably be the whole ballgame. The failed middle school confession gives me hopes that the story will move past that though.

Maybe I'm using yandere too loosely, and it doesn't necessarily have to be a sempi. I'm just thinking about any yuri manga where the MC gets to know the girl she has been admiring from afar, and ends up getting closer than she is comfortable with. The story starting off with the line "How did it end up like this" is usually a warning sign.

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Citrus + discussion 19 Sep 20:21
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I hate it, in stories, when one partner wants to be romantic, and love-y dove-y, and the other acts like it's a nuisance. It almost always means the couple's relationship is headed for the rocks.

And for the record, I think the dinner, bath or me, line is just a stupid sexual innuendo that cought on as a cute joke about how newlyweds are suppose to crave sex with each other constantly.

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I read the first couple of pages, and thought, oh great another story about the girl, who the MC admires, turning out to be a yandere lesbian, who proceeds to drag the MC, kicking and screaming, into a romantic relationship. Then I got to the bit about the failed confession, and I had hope there would be more to it. Only to have my hopes dashed at the end, when it turns out, it does not.

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I never understood the whole forcing a girl to slide her crotch along a rope thing. I think It's suppose to be a heady mix of pleasure and pain. And I guess I could see someone thinking it looks sexy. However, to me, it just looks like it'd be unpleasant and chafing. I know I wouldn't want brush burns on my sensitive bits.

Edited slightly for better wording.

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Alone in such a romantic setting and they stopped at just one kiss!? That warranted an intense makeout session, at the very least. I think they should lose their horny teenager cards for that LOL.

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Well I never picked up that there was flashbacks, which was the major source of my confussion.

The use of different borders here instead of the more common black background around the panels may be a bit confusing if you haven't encountered it before, I guess.

Na. I'm just unobservant idiot. I've got into trouble, a few times, with people in the comment section, because of making erroneous arguments, due to missing whole panels in a story.

I do like to thank you guys with taking the time to answering my questions. A lot of times they just get ingnored

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Thank you. Honestly I've no idea how you put all of that together. Between the translation problems, the poorly denoted flashbacks, and that one panel with the mon the boy, and a little girl, that looks like it might be a young version of the MC, all I got was a jumbled mess.

Eh, I wouldn't say it was that hard to understand even with the bad translation, but by now we also have the better translation at the end of the first page of this thread.

Well I never picked up that there was flashbacks, which was the major source of my confussion.

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Was the boy her brother, one of her students, or just a friend? He didn't look old enoygh to be a serious romantic prospect.

Edit: Even reading Kirin-kun's quick translation left me confused, about it.

Seriously I don't get the boy's relationship to the girl. I've read the story twice. He seems to be a student where the girl is student teaching or something. He apparently has a room where she lives. Unless she is sneaking into his dorm room. He knows her parents. So they must know each other outside of school. Then there is the one panel of a woman, the boy, and a little girl on pg 3, that I can't figure out. It's almost like they are suggesting he's the older one. Which obviously can't be the case. I mean he looks like freakin an elementary schooler in the bottom panel of pg 2. Can anyone PLEASE clue me in.

Page 1: Present time, the woman is a teacher and the dejected looking boy is one of her students. They seems to be in middleschool.

Page 2 is a flashback: the boy is in elementary school and the girl is still in college, so they should have something like 10 years difference. They are childhood friend and neighbors, obviously. The college version of the girl just went through a break up, because her mother cursed at the person she brought home, so she came into the boy's room to complain. He calls the girl Onee-chan and mother "Oba-chan" (old woman/auntie), so they are close, but are not siblings.

End of page 3: fast forward to a wedding (with a "new" partner for the the girl I guess). The boy is in middle school, he wears a gakuran. The woman (his own mother?) , the little girl (his little sister?) and the boy are attendees of the wedding.

Page 4 : The punchline. Seeing the outfits, this is a Shinto (religious) wedding, where they exchange vows, not an official wedding.

What's a bit confusing is that there's 3 sequences in time. Page 1 happens just after page 4.

Thank you. Honestly I've no idea how you put all of that together. Between the translation problems, the poorly denoted flashbacks, and that one panel with the mon the boy, and a little girl, that looks like it might be a young version of the MC, all I got was a jumbled mess.

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Was the boy her brother, one of her students, or just a friend? He didn't look old enoygh to be a serious romantic prospect.

Edit: Even reading Kirin-kun's quick translation left me confused, about it.

Seriously I don't get the boy's relationship to the girl. I've read the story twice. He seems to be a student where the girl is student teaching or something. He apparently has a room where she lives. Unless she is sneaking into his dorm room. He knows her parents. So they must know each other outside of school. Then there is the one panel of a woman, the boy, and a little girl on pg 3, that I can't figure out. It's almost like they are suggesting he's the older one. Which obviously can't be the case. I mean he looks like a freakin elementary schooler in the bottom panel of pg 2. Can anyone PLEASE clue me in.

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If someone barged into my life, staged photos, that would ruin my career and possibly get me arrested, then blackmailed me into living in my house, the last thing I'd worried about is being rude to them.

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Was the boy her brother, one of her students, or just a friend? He didn't look old enoygh to be a serious romantic prospect.

Edit: Even reading Kirin-kun's quick translation left me confused, about him.

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I looked up the original because I was confused: this translation is all kind of wrongs.

The girl MC is a teacher (they call her "sensei" on the first bubble, but somehow, it's not mentioned here).

On page 2, it's starting a flashback : the boy is in primary school.

The one who got mad was the MC's mother, when THE MC introduced her lover to her own parents.

Implying it was probably a girl even then!

It's never mentioned she ever was with a guy, so the bisexual tags stems from a bad translation.

The boy was just in an unrequited love from the start... no het here.

Blegh.

Thank you. I really had no clue what the the hell was going on.

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If you're asking if sex is over, in the same way you'd ask if the docter is done with an unpleasant medical proceedure, then you're doing it wrong.

Edit: I didn't quite understand the title either, but I got the gist of it so I thought meh it must be a translation problem..

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Whenever I see the title Your True Color, I think of a recording of Yui-metal (At least I think its Yui) singing a cover of that old Cindi Lauper song by the same name.

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Wow, you guys have a very different impression than I do.

Really? I'd like to hear your interpretation. exchanging thoughts on a story is fun, as long as it's an honest exchange, and not just someone telling you you're wrong and insulting your intelligence for thinking that way.

What I got is that Yuka is in love with Haru, but is very closed off and have a hard time expressing genuine affection so she confesses in a roundabout way and tries to get Haru to make the first move. Is she a bitch? Kinda, but I don't think she's playing Haru or using her.

That's about what I got too. I just hate that game. I like you, and I'm pretty sure you like me too. I think you're just too afraid of rejection to admit it. However instead of making the first move myself, I'm going to taunt you by dating other people, and rubbing them in your face until you get jealous enough to overcome your fear.
It's bad enough in a heterosexual situation. Adding in the fact gay anxiety is probably adding to Haru's fear of rejection, teasing her with a string of guys, not only seems cruel, but pointless. How is Haru suppose to get the idea she, as a woman, has a shot, when all Yuka does is talk about guys. Yuka should at the very least talk about some nice cute girls she met. Maybe use that to subtly hint she is attracted to women too. Give Haru hope, she won't get shot down in flame, taking their precious friendship with her.

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