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Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

I do ship SungjixSumin but i would also like something nice to happen to Seju that doesn't involve Sumin.

I think they're both already starting to rely on each other less, Sumin no longer needs Seju emotionally and Seju now no longer wants to give Sumin what she wants.

That's why I want Nami to get closer to Seju :)

I think the black haired girl is stalking Seju. After Seju had the discussion about the interviews she feels like someone is watching her and then as she walks away we see the black haired girl around the corner behind her. Seju doesn't see the girl as some people think. That is my only interpretation though.

But it looked like she was reporting to someone on Sumin. And her face...

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

I don't think there's any place for a plot twist. Can't remember how long this story will be, but I'm sure we're close to an end of it already.

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

I do not see a reason why she will need to team up with her love rival, Sungji. It seems you guys overpower Sungji a bit too much. If Seju alone can't fight against her family, I do not see how her teaming up with Sungji ever can. Sungji's little force adding on Seju's immense strength won't make a difference. If they kidnap Sumin, all Sungji should do is to pray at home, and wait for Seju to save Sumin.

I agree. Seju is smart and intelligent. She have all the resources but still unable to overpower her family. I dont see how Sungji can help in any way if that is really gonna happen.

Sungji is smart too. And perceptive. Nami was kinda surprised when she noticed that. Seju and resources? Nah, if she had them, she'd used them long ago. But she didn't.

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

Which is exactly my point - she didn't fire her even when she could. She still can, but she's not doing it. But it doesn't mean Sungji won't be able to stand up against her, right? It says for sure that Seju has some kind of a plan when it comes to Sungji and Sungji will be able to stand up against her, just like she once already did. She only looks this innocent, she proved not to be like that. She was bullied as a kid and learned to foght for herself. She may not know how to deal with Seju family, but she for sure will find a way to deal with Seju when (and if*) the time comes and by the end helping both of them to move on and keep their friendship.

*I'm still hoping they could work together to get Sumin back if that woman in black will kidnap her or to fight against Seju fam for hurting Sumin ("accidents" happens, right?).

last edited at Mar 10, 2017 10:34AM

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

^She was able to stand up against Seju and tell her she's the pity one. And she didn't even lose her job for it.

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

Yeah, Sungji x Seju won't happen, but Sungji might be the person who will help both of them not only move on but also heal their friendship (without benefits). If this woman in black is someone who will do something to Sumin, I'm almost sure Sungji and Seju will work together against her and the entire Baek family. Sungji may seem to be such innocent girl, but I have a feeling it's unwise to mess up with her.

I also think Seju might want to use Sungji to get Sumin back at least at the begining. She first thought she'll get Sumin back no matter what, but after Sungji found them in the same bed, she told that Sumin in the elevator. Seju's game is not over yet. She's just waiting for a right moment. But Sungji now knows how manipulative she is. She's probably expecting her to do some moves so she won't be surprised ever again. I liked how she stood up to her and told her right in the face she pity her. With Sumin back, Sungji is most likely a wall between them and what do you do with walls when they stood in your way? You crush them. So Seju will try, but won't succeed.

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

28th? Not 19th? What the heck?

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

^I think it's because they're finally completely over. Sungji separated them.

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

Nah, don't think it's a bodyguard, she's suspicious. Last time Seju's bro hurt Sumin himself, this time maybe he hired someone. And even if it won't be scarring 2.0, it still can be a kidnapping, beating etc. One way or another she's connected to Seju fam.

I hope Seju's huge boobs will work against any bullets or daggers XD

More like Sungji's :D
One thing is sure - they'll be a nice, comfy pillow afterwards ^^

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

Nora89 - I think something will happen. It might be scarring 2.0 (this woman in black gives me bad vibes). Wouldn't mind a bit of such drama. It would be like a breath of fresh air combined with some action and maybe, just maybe, it'd force Seju to work with Sungji.

I don't think it will be another scarring, Seju made it clear to her brother not to intervene.. and I don't think his father will keep him out of the jail this time.

the women at the end of the chapter has appeared before, Seju saw her, but did not comment in ch 66 .. I don't even have a guess of whats going on

maybe just a bodyguard hehehehe

Nah, don't think it's a bodyguard, she's suspicious. Last time Seju's bro hurt Sumin himself, this time maybe he hired someone. And even if it won't be scarring 2.0, it still can be a kidnapping, beating etc. One way or another she's connected to Seju fam.

have u noticed that Seju's driver does not drive her home.. is she paranoid of her family knowing where she lives ?

Who knows, she's trying to play solo and play hard which her fam doesn't like at all :D

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

Nora89 - I think something will happen. It might be scarring 2.0 (this woman in black gives me bad vibes). Wouldn't mind a bit of such drama. It would be like a breath of fresh air combined with some action and maybe, just maybe, it'd force Seju to work with Sungji and reveal more of Sumin's tragic past.

Kami-sama - Sumin is almost always tired, it wasn't only that day. Or maybe she's flegmatic, no idea. But she can fall asleep anywhere and anytime.

last edited at Mar 9, 2017 10:51AM

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

didn't anyone notice that Sumin changed after she had her first time with Sungji? lol Sungji's market value is probably more higher than any girl that Sumin had sex with before because she is a virgin xD they have a term for that "Golden Lesbian"

Haha, and Sumin isn't in such a great shape. She literally fell asleep right after she came, or to be more prevised, when she was still on top of the hill. She's like an old lady sometimes. I wonder if there's something wrong with her and I'm serious about it. It's not normal to be tired like this pretty much all the time.

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

^I didn't say she doesn't respect Sumin... because she does. [Just not all the time, but I've never said it before, it's the very first time].
I also didn't say Seju is the only bad. Just in my eyes her behaviour towards Sumin was worse than Sumin's towards Seju. Other than that, both of them are toxic for each other and souldn't be together. But it's my own opinion.
And yes, Sumin loved Seju deeply. Their relationship was important to her. If Seju didn't fckd up with that bartender, they would've been happy together right now. And maybe if Seju's brother didn't scar her, she'd forgive Seju in time. But he did, which made her disgusted with this entire family even more.

Btw: is the new chapter coming out today?

last edited at Mar 8, 2017 12:14PM

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

How should I know? It's what Nammi said - Seju could've use a different way, but she chose to hurt Sumin, badly.
Sumin didn't completely lie about Seju being her friend. She just covered the part "with benefits". Doesn't make it better in any possible way, but I'm happy they're fine now. What I want to see now is them develop this relationship and Seju find someone for herself and treat that person with high respect, without manipulations and plotting (Nammi, please!).

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

I agee, but as Nammi said, she could've chosen a different way, much less hurtful. But she wanted Sumin to suffer ;)
She tried to sabotage Sumin's relationship with Seju before they even became a serious couple by saying all this bs to Sungji when she found Sumin napping with her head on Sungji's lap. She knew right away Sumin got close with the blondie so she started her game.

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

I remember the first time Sumin went back to Seju was when she was drunk while Seju was sleeping in her bed. I do not remember seeing Seju having used any sort of tricks to get her back at that time, so I don't think Seju ever even needs to use one in the first place.

No, this happened after Seju damaged her relationship with that redhead who was engaged to a man in a very painful way. That's why Sumin was so hurt.

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

^No one is saying Sumin is innocent, but people seems to not see Seju's fault and they put all the blame on Sumin. It's not like she had no right to be with other women. They broke up, she was free to do whatever she wanted. Even if it had hurt Seju. The only really bad thing she did was always coming back to Seju and accepting "gifts" instead of completely cutting herself from her. But she was weak. She still is weak. She wants to love and be loved in return, she wants comfort. That's why she used to end up on Seju's doorstep every time her relationship blew up and it was a mistake, but it's difficult to completely blame her for doing it. She has no family anymore. No mom who would hug her and tell her everything will be ok. She knows Seju since they were kids, Seju always took care of her in the past so Sumin subconsciously went to her seeking comfort. It's toxic, yes. But it's also natural and humane. Seju on the other hand first cheated on Sumin and end up hurting not only Sumin but also herself by doing it. Then she plotted how to destroy Sumin's relationships. And at least once she succeeded, hurting Sumin so bad that Nammi went to talk to her. So yes, they're both to blame, but IMO Seju's actions are worse and there's more blame on her side because she knew exactly what she was doing. Still, I want her to be trully happy too. She's not rotten, she's just damaged and someone has to fix her so I'm crossing my fingers for it to happen. And I hope Sumin and Seju can be friends without benefits in the future.

last edited at Mar 6, 2017 9:31PM

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

till now it is unclear why she pushed Sungji X Sumin in such a risky move.. even if you tell me she wants Sumin to crawl back to her over and over again, still not a strong reason!

It looks like she likes to be the source of comfort for Sumin and Sumin is most responsive when she's very hurt - there was this chapter when she pretty much collapsed in Seju's arms after the other girl broke up with her. She was so hurt and emotionally drained that she had to sleep for a long time afterwards too. And Seju enjoyed it. So pushing Sumin and Sungji together to make Sumin this responsive while crawling back to her after another break up makes sense.

(what's up with Glasses- ssi ? I kinda missed her ) heheheh

Probably stalking that guy she likes :P

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

Agreed with those waiting to see how Sumin will react once her sugar mama is gone.

Also can't understand Sumin other than being a selfish immature leech. She hasn't achieved anything on her own, everything was handed to her by Seju. Never once worked for anything, car, house, work, etc.

It's so effing unbelievable that in the entire manhwa world of WDTFS; no one else has fallen for or pursued Seju. That woman is the total package, that just makes no sense.

It's time that Seju gets a new lover who can appreciate her. I don't care whether is a dude or a lady, just someone who isn't there for her money.

For those discussing layers, I think there's only two layers for Sumin: -With-Seju and Without-Seju and quite honestly, she has sucked at being a partner/girlfriend in both

A leech? No, Sumin is not a leech. I wonder why so many of you seems to forget Seju was pushing Sumin to be with Sungji because she wanted her to "crawl back to her". She enjoys Sumin being hurt this way because she's always coming back to her, like a lost dog. And she's always waiting for it to happen.

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

Like, what is so great about Sumin anyway. I'm speaking from what we've seen so far, and not of what might happen.

Sumin has layers and isn't someone who she tries to play. She's insecure, vulnerable and has this sort of childish face too. And once she loves, she loves deeply. In this case she reminds me of Mel from Pulse.
I remember Sungji saying once it's her first time to have someone who she can care of, it looked like she enjoyed it very much. It might be one of the reasons why she's so forgiving towards her too.

Seju is also vulnerable, also has insecurities, also not someone who she appears to be, Seju's outer shell is a sexy, confident, independent woman, the opposite of the vulnerable, insecured, lonely 'real' Seju. When Seju loves, she also loves deeply, no, she loves with literally everything she has. That's not sth to be considered special about Sumin, cuz Seju has it all, if not more, since Seju is even more complicated.

They're both very complicated. Seju is more confident than Sumin IMO tho. She just has an ugly family that pretty much ruined her life. Sumin on the other hand was never really confident. She was extremely close with her parents, their death haunts her to this day. It was Sungji who brought true happiness to her life after she lost her family. And it was Sungji who truly took care of her, not expecting anything in return - especially not sex, which she showed early on when Sumin tried to seduce her once and end up with her own walls crushed by Sungji's comforting embrace.

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

Like, what is so great about Sumin anyway. I'm speaking from what we've seen so far, and not of what might happen.

Sumin has layers and isn't someone who she tries to play. She's insecure, vulnerable and has this sort of childish face too. And once she loves, she loves deeply. In this case she reminds me of Mel from Pulse.
I remember Sungji saying once it's her first time to have someone who she can care of, it looked like she enjoyed it very much. It might be one of the reasons why she's so forgiving towards her too.

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

back to Nammi .. I am quite confused about her .. she liked both Sumin and Seju ?!
in the past (she tried to sleep with Sumin.. and she does tell Sungji that she used to like her a lot ) but then all her harassment to Seju ( also the flash back back to their school days ) + using Sumin as bait to meet Seju makes me confused !
honestly, I even started to doubt her attraction to Sungji ..

if just I could understand Nammi more !

Didn't Nami sleep with Sumin only once and it wasn't really fun so they decided to never do it again?
It's not like she used Sumin as a bait IMO. Nami is not a fan of Sumin's relationship with Seju because she knows Seju hurt her more than once, even when she could use a different way to destroy Sumin's relationship with someone else - Seju chose the most hurtful way. It pissed her off. But I think she simply wants to have fun with Seju and that's it. I can't see Nami as someone who wants a serious relationship. Maybe she could change? Would be nice if she changed and actually get together with Seju.

yes she did sleep with Sumin, but she said ( I liked her -Sumin- to an extent she made my heart flutter )..
but
from the way I see it, Nammi did get to meet Seju only by somehow mentioning Sumin or through Sumin.. the obsession is not merely bcz she worries about Sumin.. would you try sleeping with your friend ex bcz you are worried about her unless you really like your friend ex.?
look at Nammi's type.. it resembles Seju .
in two different incidents she asks Seju if she hates her that much (does she wants Seju and Sumin be off bcz she cares about Sumin or bcz she wants Seju ?)

it is a total mess

Maybe she wants both - Seju for herself and to keep her away from messing with midget's life :P I mean, she really does care for Sumin. Besides, like I mentioned, I see Nami as a fun loving woman with a couple of lovers. Maybe she could change. Maybe she really is interested in Seju. Who knows, this better be solved soon :)

last edited at Mar 5, 2017 3:25PM

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

No, she did. She told Sungji that Seju was her first love. She felt guilty for being bad to Seju for all those years so when she begged for it to be their last time she couldn't refuse. She knew very well she did a mistake, she felt bad for it, but still walked out of her bed and worked to get back to Sungji.

So she literally just admitted that Seju was her first love after Sungji caught them cheating...and that's enough? She didn't even say a single word about her past with Seju before, which was the time when it really mattered. And if the cheating didn't happen, she would still not say anything.
Besides admitting the obvious because she was caught.and forced to admit it, did she really do anything more?
Literally nothing. And feeling bad about the cheating means nothing, since only a sociopath wouldn't feel guilty after cheating.
The next time they reconciled, they literally saw each other and jumped to bed.

And yet it's more than Seju said in the past. We know Seju didn't cheat because she was drunk, but because she was angry on Sumin for losing the ring. Sumin gives me the vibe of someone who is scared of her own past. Her life wasn't good, she has scars (both mental and physical) and needs time to really open up. Yet, she was able to reveal quite a lot about herself to Sungji. It doesn't mean she shouldn't say more, because she should reveal even the darkest parts of her past. But it's not that easy and I think Sungji will find out about it the hard way - this woman in black might kidnap Sumin... and do something similar to what Seju's brother did to her. If that ever happens, I'd like to see Sungji and Seju work together to find Sumin tbh. Maybe they could bury the hatched and it'd let Seju move on?

In the past Seju was unable to do so, she had to be dragged out from her bed by her bro who decided to put some nasty scars on Sumin which made Sumin even more disgusted by Seju. Sungji is also a very forgiving person, I think. And she really do love Sumin. She also knows Sumin loves her since she confessed to her a couple of times, which contradicted what Seju told her once - that Sumin will never love her.

Seju tried 100 times harder for Sumin to forgive her. All these years she never slept with anyone else, and she was trying to break the ice in Sumin's heart.
Just because Sungji managed to make Sumin fall for her and Seju didn't, it's not a proof that Sumin tried more with Sungji. It's a proof that Gaji did a bad job to make the main couple well developed.

Yeah, except she was the one who at least once found a way to destroy Sumin's relationship in a very painful way even though she could've done it differently. She's not so innocent or good. I saw her as manipulative and controlling over Sumin since the beginning and she's still like this in my eyes. It doesn't mean I don't like her and don't want her to be happy though. Just not with Sumin since their relationship is toxic to both of them. Sumin found a way to move on, time for Seju to do it too.

last edited at Mar 5, 2017 2:47PM

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

Not so magically. And the weren't even fully naked when Sungji found them together in one bed. Sumin found Seju after she had sex with that bartender, Sungji found Sumin before things went too far. This is one of the differences.

A cheating doesn't get any better by the amount of how many sexual stuff have been done. It is the trust and betrayal of it that hurts the person who is being cheated.
A couple of extra sexual poses won't make any difference in the end. Especially for someone like Sumin who was hiding a lot of stuff from Sungji.

I'm not sayin what Sumin did was less wrong from what Seju did in the past to Sumin, it's just still different. Seju was found after she had sex, Sumin before/on the way to do it. Yes, it's still cheating, but it's also different.

The other one is that Sumin actually explained why it almost happened and worked hard to earn forgiveness while Seju never did such thing.

She actually didn't explain anything at all. They briefly talked about keeping some distance exactly after Sungji caught them, and right after they met again they started having sex right away. Sungji asked nothing.

No, she did. She told Sungji that Seju was her first love. She felt guilty for being bad to Seju for all those years so when she begged for it to be their last time she couldn't refuse. She knew very well she did a mistake, she felt bad for it, but still walked out of her bed and worked to get back to Sungji. In the past Seju was unable to do so, she had to be dragged out from her bed by her bro who decided to put some nasty scars on Sumin which made Sumin even more disgusted by Seju. Sungji is also a very forgiving person, I think. And she really do love Sumin. She also knows Sumin loves her since she confessed to her a couple of times, which contradicted what Seju told her once - that Sumin will never love her.

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

back to Nammi .. I am quite confused about her .. she liked both Sumin and Seju ?!
in the past (she tried to sleep with Sumin.. and she does tell Sungji that she used to like her a lot ) but then all her harassment to Seju ( also the flash back back to their school days ) + using Sumin as bait to meet Seju makes me confused !
honestly, I even started to doubt her attraction to Sungji ..

if just I could understand Nammi more !

Didn't Nami sleep with Sumin only once and it wasn't really fun so they decided to never do it again?
It's not like she used Sumin as a bait IMO. Nami is not a fan of Sumin's relationship with Seju because she knows Seju hurt her more than once, even when she could use a different way to destroy Sumin's relationship with someone else - Seju chose the most hurtful way. It pissed her off. But I think she simply wants to have fun with Seju and that's it. I can't see Nami as someone who wants a serious relationship. Maybe she could change? Would be nice if she changed and actually get together with Seju.

last edited at Mar 5, 2017 11:13AM