also how much you could love someone to get smashed with a car for a gift from your lover? ._. (for a glove that you can actually wash lol)

I think it's supposed to mean that she cares so much for the glove (which represents Kurumi's feelings for her) that she didn't even notice the traffic, or maybe the truck. It's not like she consciously chose to get hit by the truck in order to save the gift.

That is, assuming she did get hit, which we don't know yet.

Oh, for heaven's sake, it was just a comment. Someone read that differently than what I intended, so I clarified later on. Let's move on.

Given nobody mentioned it, I take it there are no news from Nakatani, right? Okay, thanks and goodnight.

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Well I'd love to read a different genre of work that still includes f/f romance from her, that sounds great.

Which brings us back to my question: are there any news about her future projects?

Edit: by the way, thanks for pointing out "Double Bed", because I had totally missed that one.

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You are aware that by "being done with yuri" she (Nakatani) meant "being done with stories which have the yuri as the main focus", right?

That's why I put "done" between quotes, and also why I wrote later that "It's not like none of her future stories will have any gay stuff in them, [...] But I think she meant she's looking for a new direction for her future stories."

Found it.

– Will you also draw a yuri manga for your next work?

Nakatani: I feel like I should say this early on, although actually I think I’ve said this before. I want to write, not yuri, but a different genre for my next work. I already wrote the manga I would want to write for the yuri genre, Bloom Into You, after all. If I don’t build up a lot inside me, or go through more changes, I don’t think I’d be able to write another yuri series. And if I did, it’d be pretty far in the future. Well, that’s what I’m thinking as I stand at the foot of this next flight of stairs, anyway. Even if I write for a different genre, I think there’s a possibility that it will still have a girl-girl couple in it, haha.

Link here

Anyone knows what Nakatani-sensei has been up to lately? I know she said she was "done" with yuri, but I have no idea if she has already announced any new stories or series.

citation needed or is not true

Actually, I've read that in this very thread, ages ago. It was in an interview with Nio, I think. I'll try to find the specific piece where she says that, and I'll post it here if I do.

Wait she said she was done with yuri? That stinks. What about that little oneshot she did, Double Bed.

If I remember right, she said that with YagaKimi she had achieved what she wanted to with yuri romance, and that she'll probably not go back to the genre. It's not like none of her future stories will have any gay stuff in them, especially since she has done a number of very gay one-shots for Eclair since YagaKimi started. But I think she meant she's looking for a new direction for her future stories.

Anyone knows what Nakatani-sensei has been up to lately? I know she said she was "done" with yuri, but I have no idea if she has already announced any new stories or series.

1. I cringed at the implied accident cliffhanger. Could we just not? I hope it will be subverted and that nothing serious actually happened.

Like I said, I have a strong feeling that this is just to stall Nikaidou and make her lose her deadline. It would be really out of character for this story if someone actually died. But, well, you never know, right?

1. I'm way more distracted by the fact that somehow glove that Nika was holding got blown by the wind. Seriously never heard of that before and it hurts my suspension of disbelief so hard, it makes me feel like author didn't really think it through and came up with that sudden accident on a whim, just for a dramatic plot twist.

There's some significance to it. Like how Nika didn't fall off the bridge to save Jun's gift (she was all "oh, this was for the best"), but she jumped in front of a truck to get Kurumi's gift back.

I agree with you that a strong gust of wind suddenly blowing the glove away was a little far-fetched, but I'd be a hypocrite if I criticized author-sama for that, because I've done worse than this in my stories.

Seriously just Google truck-kun, it's a meme about how this one truck keeps killing people in anime/manga.

So it's always the same truck? What a psycho.

Also, if the author really either kills someone off or does the amnesia thing I will be really disappointed.

I think the accident is merely to stall Nikaidou, she'll miss her deadline with Kurumi because she'll be at the hospital. Kurumi will think Nika left her for good, and Kyouko will confess.

When it comes to editing - there's really not much to it. I started editing manga about a week after downloading photoshop for the first time in my life.

Ehhhh depends. If it's just erasing speech bubbles and typing text on top, that's pretty simple, you can learn to overnight. Sfx can get a bit complicated, though, as well as color pages. Sometimes even the speech bubbles have complex backgrounds patterns, like flowers. That does require a bit of skill in using brushes, in order to redraw stuff to match the original art. Also, clone stamp, transform tools, et cetera. But I guess if you have a lot of free time, you can learn to do most of it in a week or two. It really helps that Manga is all BW.

That's true - colour pages can be a nightmare, especially if it involved redrawing people, not just background and objects. Redrawing for the SFX is a pain sometimes, but SAD typically leaves the SFX as is. The only difficult part aside from SFX is redrawing when the narrative text is over top of backgrounds. Still, I think about a month at most is all you need if you make sure to put some effort into it.

Yeah, I guess you can learn most of it pretty quickly, then just pick up new tricks of the trade over time.

As someone who has no experience or knowledge about it, how does one go about learning how to do that sort of editing work?

As Cecile said, just download photoshop and practice. I would personally recommend looking through /u/ Scanlations' pastebin of manga waiting to be typeset, picking one that interests you (or just to practice on - doesn't really matter), and giving it a go. For guides, Here are a few:

Red Hawk Scanlations' Guide

AnonBlack's guides

Ruinevil's Guide - This one is probably best for beginners, while the former two have more detailed (and usually better) advice.

Yuri Project has a tutorial too, which you should probably check out at some point (here). Personally, I'd skip the part about the Actions menu, because it's not very beginner-friendly and in my experience it's hardly ever relevant for scanlation (it's good for batch editing photographs, though). I also recommend saving the yuri project export configurations as a preset, since they're useful for pretty much any scanlation project.

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When it comes to editing - there's really not much to it. I started editing manga about a week after downloading photoshop for the first time in my life.

Ehhhh depends. If it's just erasing speech bubbles and typing text on top, that's pretty simple, you can learn to overnight. Sfx can get a bit complicated, though, as well as color pages. Sometimes even the speech bubbles have complex backgrounds patterns, like flowers. That does require a bit of skill in using brushes, in order to redraw stuff to match the original art. Also, clone stamp, transform tools, et cetera. But I guess if you have a lot of free time, you can learn to do most of it in a week or two. It really helps that Manga is all BW.

As someone who has no experience or knowledge about it, how does one go about learning how to do that sort of editing work?

Download photoshop and start messing around in it. Tutorials are good too, but most of the time you just need to spend time getting to know the software.

I suggested the tsundere tag now. They can't reject all of us (they probably can).

In my experience, yes they can.

I don't know, if Kyouko really love and care about Kurumi like she said, she wouldn't have wish for her to break up.

She's wishing for them to break up because she loves and cares about Kurumi. She thinks Nika is a negative influence on Kurumi's life and mental well being. Is she correct? I wouldn't say so, but she's well intentioned.

One could argue that it's the reverse: she thinks so little of Nika partly (or mainly) because she wants them to break up. She basically had a single negative encounter with Nika and has refused to change her opinion of her since then despite all the evidence that she's very serious about her relationship with Kurumi. Kurumi has only positive things to say about her, and she even showed Kyouko the scarf Nika knitted for her. If that isn't proof that she's not some slut/cad just playing with Kurumi's feelings, I don't know what is.

So I think there's some evidence that at this point, Kyouko hates Nika simply out of jealousy. She says she wants them to break up out of concern for Kurumi, but there has to be an element of selfishness to that as well, whether she admits it or not.

To be fair, everyone in this story has acted selfish at some point. I agree with you that Kyouko has refused to change her opinion of Nikaidou, but we also need to consider that Kyouko hasn't seen the more caring side of Nika like we have (and even among us readers, there's been a good deal of debate about how serious Nika's love for Kurumi is).

What Kyouko knows about Nikaidou is: 1) the things she's seen: the Karaoke night, and also Nika not going home with Kurumi because she was meeting Jun; 2) the rumors, which are mostly true anyway; and 3) the things Kurumi says about her, but love is blind and Kurumi's a bit of a dolt, so that doesn't sound much credible. Also, she seems to know that Nikaidou was dating Kurumi while being in love with someone else, and that does paint her in a bad light.

I think it's plausible that, in Kyouko's eyes, Nikaidou still looks like a bad person, someone who's going to hurt her dear friend someday.

It would be a dick move if the author focused a whole chapter on this side character and not give her proper closure.

There is still Jun thought

Was there a whole chapter focusing on what he felt like? I don't remember there was, remind me if there was one

I think she means pairing Kyouko with Jun. Which is a really weird idea and that's probably the reason for the strike through lol

Should Nika even deserve Kurumi herself? She used her, as a rebound. I guess Kurumi went into it knowing what was happening, but still. She's also done it to multiple guys, nonetheless. Where were her morals?

That's kind of a loaded question. The only way to answer whether someone "deserves" someone else is by resorting to value judgements, and people have different value systems, as well as different points of view on a specific situation.

No (I don't super think the relationship as set up now would be healthy). I'm saying the themes of the story confuse me. Is this about a girl who can't get over someone, or is about a girl who isn't actually that gay? Those aren't remotely the same thing.

I'm pretty sure Nikaidou's sexuality isn't the main issue in the story. Even if she does pick Jun in the end (unlikely), that still wouldn't prove that she's actually straight or anything. So yeah, it's probably about "a girl who can't get over someone".

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And the ending is just perfect, it made me feel like everything was just a dream.

Technically, it all happened in the story. But at the same time, it didn't, because all other superimposed realities collapsed when observed, leaving only the one at the end as the "real" one. Rather than a dream, considering the theme of this story, it might be more adequate to call it a "thought experiment" :)

So now we know- she isn't mute because of some kinda mental block/trauma but from her vocal chords physically not working for whatever reason- probably some childhood illness.

Actually, if the use of "aphonia" is accurate to the original line, it's still ambiguous; according to Wikipedia, aphonia can be due to purely psychological causes (i.e. "psychogenic") despite being typically caused by physical trauma/condition (e.g. nerve damage, tumor, or tracheotomy).

The word used is indeed the Japanese word for aphonia: 失声症 (shisseishou). So as you said, the cause remains ambiguous for now (^_^;)

I don't suppose the author thought about this in this level of detail.

It's a short extra, so that's all there is to it. With this, the volume is complete now.

(Qualia, for those who don't know, are the intrinsic internal feelings we get from certain sensations.)

Ahem.

I was just thinking of this series, it's really interesting, and this debate kinda makes me want to read it again.

Also, it really needs to be renamed here. I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be called "The Qualia Of Purple" instead (this makes sense in the end).

I interpret that as respecting your opinions.

That's how I meant it. You can read the story however you want, you don't have to agree with anything I'm saying.

Why are everyone here so unaccepting towards alternative points of view lol.

It's pretty clear from the title onwards that this story on purpose creates multiple interpretations. None of them are wrong until we get to the ending. Until we do, I would recommend getting off your high horse and entertaining the thought that your interpretation isn't the only one.

I'm not saying you're wrong. Technically, anything can happen, in any story, because that's for the author to decide. And the fun of us being here is exactly debating the story and its characters, so there's nothing wrong with us disagreeing with each other.

But she needs to establish that she's bi. And the AUTHOR needs to establish she's bi. As of now, it's like the various characters' genders aren't things that affect anything, and that's weird.

Personally, if a girl was interested in a guy and then at some point she says she's interested in me, I would immediately assume she's bi (or pan). Maybe being bi myself has something to do with that, but I just don't feel that there's a need to explicitly debate what that person's sexual orientation is.

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There's no other way to read this besides her beginning to let go of her old love and starting to develop feelings for Kurumi.

Tbh everything from Nika's side can be interpreted as her just getting really close to Kurumi as a friend. From the looks of it Nika doesn't really have many, if any, close female friends. Literally everything she's feeling can be explained by what you might feel towards a best friend.

Do you have a friend like that? Someone you say "I can't imagine being without you" and "I love you more than anything", just before you french kiss them, and yet you're still best buddies and not in love at all?

The author has seriously made an effort to show how strong Nika's feelings for Kurumi are (hence everything I pointed out), that's a lot more than you get in most yuri stories. Unless everything Nikaidou has said up to this point was a lie, I can't imagine her looking at Kurumi as just a friend.

But well, if that's how you wanna read the story, who am I to stop you.

What’s with this epidemic of anime high schoolers living alone

It’s a very common trope. Sometimes it serves to indicate something significant about the character (they’re exceptionally lonely, or neglected, or they’ve had to act grown-up prematurely, etc.), but sometimes it’s just a “clear the decks” plot device that avoids including extraneous characters and allows the character to go places and do things without reference to parental control (and in romance series allows couples to be alone together).

I remember one famous fantasy writer (I think it was Neil Gaiman, or maybe Diana Wynne Jones) who said the first thing you have to do in Teen/YA adventures is "kill the parents".

I can’t recall the titles at the moment, but this is at least the third or fourth “do mermaids actually exist, or is this person nuts?” yuri manga series I’ve seen.

Not that I mind, but the theme definitely seems to be a thing.

This and this.

(also a zillion Disney movies and TV shows, though those aren't yuri)

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i also really don't like when there needs to be like two chapters of the "wait i like a girl. impossible. lesbians arent a thing. etc." trope. so i'm glad this one skipped that.

Same