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BugDevil
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Oh, OK. Don't worry about it.
Edit:
Although in that case, the end won't come for another 11 - 15 months by my estimates. (Nakatani being 80% done, so that would be two more volumes, and the shortest volume being 7 chapters with the longest being 9)

Let's not think about that and just enjoy the nice music video, shall we~?

BugDevil
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joined Aug 26, 2018

In case you didn't read it, this is from an interview

Nakatani: It could be said that YagaKimi is approaching the climax, or the last arc. To follow along until the end... eh, is it okay to say something that makes it sound like "it's about to end"? (laugh).

Anyways the serialization in Dengeki Daioh is heading towards the climax. Those who have read up to volume 6 may be worried and thinking "is it going to be alright?" but I believe that I'll be able to show everyone what they want to see, so please follow along!

Er... alright. Thanks? I don't doubt it will end well. I never once even considered this would end badly. Pretty sure one of my very first posts in this thread was that everyone can quote me on that until the end of the manga.

What I meant is that I really can't wait to see this resolved (rather than just hoping that it does at all). That video just really drove home how much I yearn for that. Sorry if that was misleading.

last edited at Dec 9, 2018 8:07AM

BugDevil
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joined Aug 26, 2018

Imma let you all keep butting heads, but I just have to share this. I'm not sure if this was posted here before, but you can never post this kind of masterpiece too often.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1UO5OE9FaQ

Probably the best YagaKimi MMV I ever saw. Of course using an Aimer song elevates it 10 times over. I don't even know where all the colored pages come from, but seeing the manga in full color is astonishing.

This more than anything until now drives home how much I need a conclusion for this conflict that makes both of them happy...

BugDevil
Image Comments 08 Dec 14:51
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^Which disgusts me to my core. Liz belongs with squirrel- I mean Hakunon. That's why I dislike waifu gacha games based on existing series.

last edited at Dec 8, 2018 4:07PM

BugDevil
Image Comments 08 Dec 08:52
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^Unless you are talking about some other site's gallery, there is not single futa pic in 23's gallery here on Dynasty.

BugDevil
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https://best100.animefestival.jp/

Banana Fish is way more popular than I thought.
YagaKimi jumping spots is great, though any more advances will be tough.

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

This is beginning to feel futile. Y'all seem to think I'm saying something that I'm not. Anyway I gotta go to bed.

Unless we take your literal quote... literally?


Episode 10's out and it was pretty decent.
That scene at the cafe was always one of my favorites. Even everyone around Yuu realizes how much she changed after just one conversation.

Then the scene at.... Doctor Donuts. That was the best U n f a i r in the series. It can only be eclipsed by S e n p a i Y o u J e r k.

A little sad about how they did the ending though. I guess the overlap was unavoidable due to how the pages where done, but eh. Also they didn't let some moments linger and cut them off really fast.
Phew, it's hard work coming up with criticisms each week!

last edited at Dec 7, 2018 4:44PM

BugDevil
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joined Aug 26, 2018

If you make a realistic fight scene, it does send some messages to the audience actually. It tells me that you have some knowledge of what real fights look like, it tells me that you wanted to make a realistic fight. I could even infer some things that may not be entirely correct but aren't inconsistent with what I saw. I could infer that you like realistic fight scenes, heck I could even infer that you think realistic fight scenes are superior (I could be wrong in that case but that really isn't the point). Besides gathering author intent is only the least interesting, but still important, part of interpreting a work of art
anyway. Any good work of art leaves room for the audience to interact with it, and Bloom into You is a good work of art.
As an aside I, once again, wasn't saying Nakatani is some scholar of LGBT issues. Yes, the actual LGBT discussion in the manga is pretty bare bones, but I wasn't making a point about that. Literally all I was saying is that it is there.

You seem to be conflating a message with simply using a certain structure or plot elements. A message/statement is supposed to intentionally convey something to the reader. Using a story tool or a factual portrayal of something is not a message. If it were, everything would become a message and thus make real statements pointless.
And you can guess authorial intent, but if your evidence is lacking then it's better not to claim it as fact. A statement is almost always woven into the themes and plot. It merely existing is not a statement in itself.

Once again, you fail to see that I'm not talking about Nakatani's LGBT knowledge anymore. What I have been rebutting from the start is that you said a realistic portrayal of lesbians equals a statement. Please understand that the focus of my replies is on that and not whatever your previous conversation was about.

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Where did I say it was the point of the story? I'll say it again. I'm simply disagreeing with the claim that she isn't conscious of LGBT issues, I think there is more than enough evidence to suggest that she is at least a little aware of them. I think it'd be pretty hard for a Yuri writer not to be nowadays. Yes, Yuri leads are often shown physically attracted to each other nowadays, but I haven't seen too many of them were a girl is shown to fall for another girl based on appearance alone and have it be taken seriously.

P.S Writing realistic lesbians is absolutely making a statement.

Rather it is not a focus at all is probably more accurate. You may have wanted to just disagree with that point, but in turn you made a claim that is equally wrong.

Sayaka didn't just fall for Touko based on appearance alone anyway (initial attraction =/= romantic feelings), though I guess that discussion has been done to death by now. At least I assume you meant Sayaka, because this applies to no other character in this story.
I can think of quite a lot yuri stories that start out with "She is totally my type" or "She is so pretty" etc. showing that the characters initial interest comes from the appearance.

No it's not. That is ludicrous. If I portray a realistic fight scene, do I make a statement on fights in general? Nope. Replicating things as they are in reality can stir conversation by itself and often that is done with the intend of conveying a message, but it's not a necessity. Nakatani tells a story of a person in that particular situation, but if she wanted to make a statement on lesbians then she completely failed. She barely addresses any lesbian issues aside from some people thinking it's a phase or it being looked at as weird (which is the most basic of all yuri tropes).

What Nakatani actually makes a statement on is the perception of love and feelings and misunderstanding them. That theme goes through all the conflicts (be they gay or straight btw, just look at Akari). The sheer difference between the two should show you what is a real statement and which isn't. Though like I said, it wouldn't be a problem if she actually did want to make one on lesbianism. At least she isn't looking away from the topic with her portrayal.

last edited at Dec 7, 2018 8:33AM

BugDevil
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joined Aug 26, 2018

Who are you responding to? If you are responding to me, I don't think Yuu is aro or ace. I'm simply disagreeing with the idea that Nakatani isn't LGBT conscious at all. I think the manga presents plenty of evidence contrary to this.

The people who said it of course. I cant be bothered to quote them all.

It is good writing, but it's also making a clear statement. The two things aren't mutually exclusive. Sayaka's entire backstory is kind of a take down of the old S-class stories. Heck she even threw in some scenes to emphasize that Sayaka's attraction to girls is physical in nature, which is something that even some modern Yuri still don't do. I just find it hard to believe that at least part of Nakatani's motivation for Sayaka's arc wasn't to create a realistic teenage lesbian character. Like I don't think Nakatani is some LGBT scholar or anything, but judging from the manga it does seem that she has at least some awareness of these issues. The scene that most convinces me of this is actually not a Sayaka scene, it's when Yuu's dad makes that little joke about how shocked he'd be if she dated a girl and Yuu gets this brief downtrodden look. To me that demonstrates some awareness of how casual homophobia works.
P.S. I'm really getting tired of auto correct changing Yuu's name to you.

(Sorry for butting in)
With the way you put it, it is literally impossible to write a realistic lesbian character without making a statement. Rather than not being mutually exclusive you made them synonymous, which is also wrong.

Nakatani writes the characters realistically and a realistic lesbian deals with these kinds of things, but that doesn't exactly mean she is trying to make a message about the situation of lesbians in general. Some stuff just comes with the territory.

That bit about Yuu and her father for example, I did not interpret as a reaction towards the idea of her father being uncomfortable with a girlfriend, but rather Yuu just being troubled by Rei's suggestion itself. Just remember, when you go in reading with preconceived notions, you often see things that aren't there.

Now to be fair, I'm ambivalent towards the idea of Nakatani trying to send a message about lesbians in this story, that might be the case. It's definitiely not the point of the story though.

PS: Physical attraction in Yuri is far from rare these days.

last edited at Dec 7, 2018 7:30AM

BugDevil
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joined Aug 26, 2018

Look, the plain fact is that there is no evidence for Yuu being aromantic or asexual. Especially not after the more recent chapters. You can believe what you want, but the opposite is always more likely and at least aromanticism is debunked.

This is first and foremost a story about misconceptions about love, not representation of anything specific.

Is this better?

Do you see these arrows ">" when you quote someone?
Don't write next to them or that text will be part of the quote.

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

At least in this story they have a justification for the misunderstanding. They have been doing a lot of couple like things for the sake of the manga, so it has all been set up pretty believably. Kano just couldn't take this particular "inspiration", because it hit too close to home.

It also seemed like Miyuu just said it to confirm her own feelings on the matter. So this is a big step forward. Kano got hurt in the process, but how this will go entirely depends on how forward Miyuu will be from now on.

PS: To the people saying she should have run after her... why? Kano gave a normal reason for leaving and Miyuu doesn't know she is crying.

last edited at Dec 7, 2018 6:51AM

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joined Aug 26, 2018

"X is trash" is my favorite line this chapter lol

So many questions though.
She found the transformation device in a random mall and it has Antinoid sensors? What?
Rapid Rabbit is a jobber, huh? Losing twice in a row. Seriously, she held back because they could hit innocent girls, but then they just blasted the Glue-tape Stand on the same rooftop anyway...
Why did they not even question what the point of that Stand going there was? I mean what's gluing girls to the ground gonna do?? Do these Antinoids have any actual goals? (I know the scientist set this up as a test, but what is the in-scenario reasoning here? lol)

I probably shouldn't be thinking about this at all, it's Tokusatsu after all and comedy at that. Honey-san being thirsty as hell is all that should matter.

last edited at Dec 7, 2018 6:34AM

BugDevil
Yuri Moyou discussion 07 Dec 06:02
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joined Aug 26, 2018

I don't really get it the last page completely. She suggests that she wouldn't have fallen for her if she was the same age, but then says she fell in love for sensei as a whole, because of her personality. It's contradictive.

My only guess is that she meant that her being an adult and trying desperately to follow the rules is the reason she initially fell for her and that barrier between them would never have exiested if they were both students.

Or they are just really gay.

last edited at Dec 7, 2018 6:03AM

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joined Aug 26, 2018

The a'tables have'a turned.

BugDevil
Image Comments 07 Dec 05:32
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Notice how both Narumi and Alice have a tear run down their face on opposite sides (for the exact opposite reasons).

BugDevil
Image Comments 07 Dec 04:37
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She was cheating on her gf with herself! The humanity!

BugDevil
Image Comments 07 Dec 04:37
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They have the exact same body type too, how convenient.

BugDevil
Image Comments 07 Dec 04:34
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Hook. Line. Sinker.

BugDevil
Image Comments 07 Dec 04:27
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[gay epiphany intensifies]

last edited at Dec 7, 2018 4:27AM

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Image Comments 07 Dec 04:26
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Yeah, that was her real goal from the start.

BugDevil
Image Comments 07 Dec 04:25
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ARM PILLOW
That's all.

BugDevil
Image Comments 07 Dec 04:22
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^Bumbling failed idol Liz is the best after all. Gudako can have the edgy version lol

BugDevil
Image Comments 07 Dec 04:21
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Really appreciate the appropiate proportions and imitation of the original style.

BugDevil
Image Comments 07 Dec 04:19
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She is reading that magazine so intently.