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BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

The hype girls needs their own sequel!

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Those back-up hype girls are the best. Evil giggling on command is hard! Can make any good deed look insidious somehow lol

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

69%?! She wasn't wrong about being able to hold her liquor. The average lesbian would be dead after that bottle!
Seriously tho, the word lesbian lost all meaning after it was used in literally every sentence. We got it after the 8th page I think.

I didn't know that the king's game is something straight people in particular need to have explained to them, but the more you know! Just more overly specific phrasing lol

BugDevil
Yuri Moyou discussion 08 Jan 06:00
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Yes, is this the yuri goddess? I'm ordering 300 CHAPTERS of that teacher student pair alone please! EXPRESS DELIVERY to my heart!
Soooooo gooood~~

last edited at Jan 8, 2019 6:01AM

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Ouch. He isn't that ugly lol

i love my boi takeo he is great #allthehomooftheworld but he is ugly and that´s fine he´s supose to be ugly that´s the point of the story

I'm not sure that's the point of the story at all actually!
Like, he has fat lips... that's it. He is just really masculine looking.

BugDevil
Image Comments 08 Jan 05:35
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018
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^^Ok... well. I think we didn't need quite that much context. This was more of a "I wanna write a story" than a "I could imagine this scene happened because of this", huh?

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

YagaKimi has a strong guided focused plot. Even if it were a slice-of-life it would be one with an actual plot. Those do exist. After all an excerpt of a life can also be a story in itself.

YagaKimi is obviously a psychological drama though, so calling it a SoL is very much missing the point.

last edited at Jan 8, 2019 5:32AM

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Sorry for going all philosophical now, but this whole ""thinking vs feeling" binary is itself an artificial construct" kind of reminded me of some ancient Greek philosopher having said "I think, therefore, I am.".

Oh Beevster, buddy, that wasn't from a Greek philosopher. That's a line from a certain Descartes, who was a frog-eating baguette man with a Weird Al wig, but certainly not ancient or Greek.

last edited at Jan 6, 2019 11:29AM

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

The story feels pretentious and artificial to me, which is why I said it's my opinion several times. If you find it the next holy grail of yuri manga that's only your opinion also lol. In any case, the excessive use of symbolism especially in the anime OP is evidence of pretentiousness kind of independent of anyone's opinion.

Then for the love of... don't use phrases like "You are falling for the pretentiousness" if you know that this is merely your very subjective and unflattering opinion.

It just so happens that a lot of this manga is extremely relatable and real to many people. Many people have trouble understanding love, many people have self-worth issues or feel they need to act perfect, many people are afraid to tell their true feelings to the one they are interested in.

I may not necessarily be any of those above people, but I can empathize with that stuff. I think that one panel of Yuu pushing her face into her pillow and saying Whatever after being "rejected" is the most relatable thing I've read in any yuri manga in ages. That kind of frustration is too real.
The suspense during Yuu's confession chapter was absolutely strong. To say that this manga is just average at all times is ridiculous. There are dozens of standout moments that really convey emotion.

Symbolism isn't pretentious. That's usually an opinion of those who either don't understand it or feel like they are being looked down on because it is too obvious. You can't win with that. That's just a backwards attitude to have.
If there is no symbolism at all that doesn't make a story more "real" it just makes it flat. Layers help us think.

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Shipping is the worst. Which is why the author's intention and the narrative is all you need.

There has been zero doubt on those two fronts as to how this ends. Right now the most shade you can throw at it is how you get there. Some have the unecessarily cruel preference of reaching that point on Sayaka's broken back, but at least nobody can deny where it will ultimately end up.

@matsuri_wins
Ya know, just because you can't relate or empathize doesn't mean it's actually pretentious or artificial, right? A little presumptuous of you.

last edited at Jan 6, 2019 10:06AM

BugDevil
Image Comments 06 Jan 09:14
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018
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^Uhm... like 10 times by now. At least every second picture is about that actually.

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Heh... the equipment shed seems to run deep in the thoughts of everyone in the fanbase. For a place that (to my memory) was only shown twice, it sure is mentioned more often than expected among the readers and viewers.

Might as well call it the make-out shed at this point. Blastaar in particular has been oddly focused on it for a while tho.

What happens in the equipment shed . . .happens again later in your room.

Wait, that doesn’t quite have the right ring to it, does it?

Like storing equipment?

BugDevil
Image Comments 06 Jan 07:53
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^Nip. Someone forgot the NSFW tag.

last edited at Jan 6, 2019 7:53AM

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

How about: Yuu is adorable. Sayaka likes girls. Sayaka corners Yuu in the equipment shed. Hijinks ensue.

See, this is why I'm a terrible writer. Your version makes so much more sense.
Getting quite some use out of that equipment shed, aren't ya?

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Anyone who values their time at all should skip this post. For those who don't… boredom sure is scary.

Alright, as mentioned before I’ve been thinking about how to make Sayaka x Yuu viable. It’s a daunting task, but not impossible. First of all we have to realize that there are two main paths that one could take for this ship:
Option 1: Sayaka x Yuu with Touko around.
Option 2: Sayaka x Yuu without Touko.
Both are viable, but Option 1 is horrible and offensive to my pure heart, so let’s go for Option 2. Let’s say for whatever reason Touko didn’t go to the same school or maybe her sister never died so she didn’t need to follow in her footsteps. Doesn’t really matter.

Now we have three main plot threads that need to be explored:
Plot 1: Yuu dealing with her old classmate’s confession.
Plot 2: The differing character constellations without Touko around.
Plot 3: Sayaka being trapped in her “I’m never going to be interested in girls again” mentality. Calling it a phase essentially.

In this set-up there is no reason for either Yuu or Sayaka to be in the student council. Touko was their main motivator (even if Yuu was ultimately convinced because a teacher told her to). Sayaka will thus focus on her studies and be a model student, while Yuu is undecided and not really into any of the clubs.
Sayaka only realized and accepted that she was a lesbian after she fell in love with Touko on first sight, but without that push she would not have gotten out of that rut. So no Touko = no realization.

The foundation for this love story is the same as with Touko essentially, but with a twist. Without Touko around, Yuu lacks the courage to call the boy who confessed to her. She keeps him waiting. This leads to him getting impatient enough to actually come to her school to confront her directly. This happens after school when he “ambushes” her (not aggressively). Sayaka happens to be in the area and is involuntarily forced to listen to their conversation.

Yuu is cornered and can’t really express her feelings well, so she ends up saying something along the lines of “Your confession didn’t excite me. I can’t feel anything for you.” Then he asks whether she is interested in some other boy or if she just dislikes him, to which Yuu responds that she didn’t have an interest in any boys until now. This is essential as the trigger for Sayaka’s interest in Yuu. She suspects that Yuu might be a lesbian or confused about her sexuality, which resonates with her. The boy accepts Yuu’s rejection and wishes her well, but this messy way to end it leaves Yuu distraught.

So Sayaka keeps an eye on Yuu from the background, but is not trying to approach her. Naturally. Nothing happens until Yuu gets into trouble because of the exams. She needs to study, but there is nobody around who can really help her (Koyomi is a bad explainer, Akari is an airhead and Maki is in the student council). Yuu ends up staying at the library a lot where, surprise of all surprises, Sayaka also hangs out (she is the studious type after all). One thing leads to another and Yuu ends up getting tutored by Sayaka (because she is a top student and Sayaka already has an interest in Yuu as established).

Both of them aren’t in any clubs and have way too much free time outside of studying. They go to WacDonalds and talk about this and that (rich girls' school image etc). Eventually Sayaka admits that she saw Yuu’s rejection. From here it gets a bit messy…

Because Sayaka denies her interest in girls, but also obviously has none in boys (repressed lesbian), she ends up in a kind of similar boat as Yuu. Even though she doesn’t think of it like that, she essentially can’t fall in love with anyone either (self-enforced however, unlike Yuu). Yuu is obviously interested in someone who is like her and is relieved that it’s not weird to be unable to love, but Sayaka tries to dissuade her from such a rash decision.
From here on they are acting more familiar, with Yuu dropping a lot of her overly polite attitude and Sayaka being more open about her disgruntled side. Take off for the snarky friends train!

Aaaaand that’s as far as I got with the basics. The rest doesn’t really matter, it could go anywhere, but this is what you can do with what we were already given. Some way or another they might end up together in this scenario. Call it a weak foundation.

Bonus ideas:
-Sayaka coincidentally meets Touko at a train station and is enamored, which shakes up her hardened self-denial. But because they aren’t at the same school or know each other she can’t follow up on those stirred emotions. Yuu notices this and gets involved.
-Sayaka likes reading, so she visits Yuu’s family book store.
-Akari gets heartbroken after Baske-senpai reveals the truth, but because Doujima ain't around (busy in the student council), Yuu is forced to comfort her on her own. Asks Sayaka for advice?

That’s it. I sure wish this site had collapsible spoilers. If this should be deleted just say the word.

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

"She floated too afterwards" sounds ridiculously ominous lol
That artist does some really great reaction faces~

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

4 ore monogatari a story of a big ugly guy that saves a cute little girl on a train from a molester then she falls in love with him

Ouch. He isn't that ugly lol

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

I'm still disappointed no one commented on that post I made here in which I gave some spoilers for onr of my series, including a yuri couple...

The post, BTW... 20 FUCKING DAYS OLD

Someone's gotta do it, but why me...?
Alright BV, listen. You can't expect anyone to react to a random story idea you throw into a room, especially when it's something super niche that almost nobody knows about. I know it's hard to believe when you are in the fandom yourself, but that "Countryballs" and "Mapping" stuff.... nobody knows about it. Maybe some people have vaguely heard of it before, but that's about it.
So obviously nobody is going to care much about it.

And you have to be mighty yuri starved to jump at absolutely everything that has a hint of yuri in it. I know people read doujins of series they don't even know, but that's still at least art...

No offense of course. I'm sure your story idea is great. Just the wrong audience around here.

If you're interested in fictional worlds (like JRR Tolkien's Arda or George RR Martin's World of Ice and Fire), then Sunset Mapping's Famana is probably one to check out. It's at least as good as those two I put in the brackets, if not better. Please, enjoy: https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbzyWXFBJy5qPr0yTxBmDN5xeHEX93udl

Personally I always felt worlds themsleves are not that interesting. What you do with them, how characters interact with them, how the people in it view it, those are the things that give fictional worlds meaning. Middle Earth is a boring average European landscape if there weren't interesting races and characters in it.

last edited at Jan 6, 2019 3:39AM

BugDevil
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joined Aug 26, 2018

I think, if you’re new to Nakatani’s art, you’ll feel different, but once it combined to the story and it’s emotional impact, the art became like a masterpiece. Nakatani’s art surely talk and make the readers truly enagaged to it. In short, Nakatani is simply superb. Besides the facial expressions (which my fave literally is Yuu’s expression. It’s just priceless). By the way, I really love the way she drew the hair.

I can see that happening. Although I liked the artstyle from the first chapter I read.
I guess what it boils down to is subtlety. So many Shoujo artists try to overcompensate with big exaggerated emotions to convey something that can also be done with much more refinement. One troubled look from Yuu > 100 pages of girls blushing beyond the borders of their face and having eyes sparkle like the Andromeda galaxy.

Now that you mention it, Nakatani does put a lot of focus on hair (which reflects in Yuu's attraction to Touko's silky perfection of a hairstyle).

BugDevil
Image Comments 06 Jan 02:35
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018
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An irresistable forbidden flame inside their chest. A fire only quenched by sin.
A love beyond standing and societal norms!

BugDevil
Image Comments 06 Jan 02:31
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018
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This artist sure loves Yuri x Nemo. Not that it's wrong to dream!

BugDevil
Image Comments 06 Jan 02:28
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018
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^You just described every Touhou character and the entire fandom

BugDevil
Image Comments 06 Jan 02:27
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K.O.

BugDevil
Image Comments 06 Jan 02:24
Eivhbyw
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Miss Piggy got a bold new redesign!

last edited at Jan 6, 2019 2:25AM

BugDevil
Image Comments 06 Jan 02:23
Eivhbyw
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On one hand she is jealous, on the other she just awakened her voyeurism for cuteness.