"What's more painful: Getting to taste a spoonful of pudding and then let someone take all pudding away forever from you or never having tasted it in the first place?"
If you speak about sex and intimacy, the latter. It's not even a contest. This is the same reason who people do break-up kisses and last nights together all the time if they are breaking up in amicable terms and not in middle of a household war.
What hurts is seeing that person with some other person later on, if you are inclined towards being jealous.
That's not really a common sentiment though. I won't deny that some people do that, but most couples break it off without that kind of thing.... After all most break-ups are messy or happen because the fire is gone. So what you suggest is highly contradictory.
Seeing someone else eat "the pudding" afterwards is an extra layer that I don't even want to involve in the choice.
Anyway, the idea is that if you were never together in the first place, the break up can't happen or hurt (in this specific case). Because we know from the start that it won't work out, Sayaka will in retrospect feel more pain, because she got fooled/deluded herself. I know it's a common sentiment to say "I would regret it more to not even have tried later", but actually that's far from realistic. If you knew it won't work you will just be unhappy because you liked what you had, but could never keep.
It hurts more to lose than never having had it, I guess.
EDIT: Just to be clear, the analogy only works if you know the result. I am not talking about something where you actually have hope at the start. Just the clear-cut option of having it for a moment to be taken away or never trying it.
Where exactly did you pull that hoot from? The LN? The manga has in no way portrayed Sayaka as totally dependant on Touko or being Touko's "platonic wife" lol
I didn't say "dependent". And maybe "image" would have been a better word choice. To put it another way she's a (stage 5) clinger. Its something I started to pick up on in the manga that I think the LN affirms (or expands on).
I'd say you are seeing things.
Like, she purposely kept her distance and was fine never confessing or bothering Touko, just keeping up the friendship. There is no real indicator right now to think she couldn't go back to being in that friend role, although naturally their perception of each other would change.
That's called the friend zone.
In the same way Yuu and Touko's relationship has been built on sand to this point so have Sayaka and Touko. They could stay friends on some level but they are going to have to start over to some extent and since you expect a myopic focus on Touko and Yuu there's just no time for that. It would be easier to have Sayaka salvage her dignity and walk away or have them hook up and fizzle out. Both of which could service the plot you want and the spinoff.
But in-universe that makes no sense. Screentime be damned, their friendship can heal off-screen. There is plenty of time.
Sayaka deserves better.
I mean... your theories up til now treat her with all the elegance of roadkill. Now I'm curious to know what your "bad end" looks like.
edit: and yes to literally everything in @herenowforever's post.
The bad end is Sayaka being toyed with, used and then broken up with afterwards. You know, the inevitable outcome of Touko accepting her confession?
You may be exceptionally hung up on the word "obstacle", but as a person I think Sayaka is way better off being rejected and getting a solid conclusion as early as possible.
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