Jezz Man! Neji could have at least thrown in some science baby great grand kids or something. That way poor heath Wouldn't end up so lonely again.

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I get it. There are many ways to have an intimate relationship. However a romance without sexual tension, is like chili without spice. You take a spoonful and brace for that mouth burning bite. And when you don't get it, you feel disappointed and unfulfilled.
I know it might be my inner cis straight male talking, but I keep hoping that these two will waken their dormant sexualies and have a "proper" love. This chapter pretty much killed that hope. I know I should be okay with it. There are real people who are asexual, and aromantic. They deserve their stories told, as well. However it just leaves me feeling unsatisfied. Like a bottle rocket that doesn't have a report. It goes up with a whistle, but it leaves you waiting for a bang that will never come.

Edit: Or a campfire you're trying to light, that smolders but just won't catch. You get a lot of smoke, just no fire.

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Edit: What if the whole thing was just elaborate ruse, by blondie, to get close to the MC. Her engagement, the wedding, The make out session, with the MC's boss in that ally, as the MC just happened to be walking by, all an elaborate fake so blondie could get close. Maybe blondie is using her power of intrigue for the sake of love after all. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!! Oh god of yuri please make it be that.

Highly unlikely but I'd be on board with it.

Check it out. After their eyes met Tsuzuki is just as intrigued with Mizuki as Mizuki is with her. So she does a little research, maybe a little cyberstocking. She finds out who Mizuki is where she works. Tsuzuki comes up with a plan to get close. She talks her friend into pretending to be her fiance and arranges the meeting. That line about love crashing coming down was about that moment in the subway. When she finds out Mizuki is engaged (boo) she arranges to get cought "cheating" in the ally, to see Mizuki's reaction. She obviously saw what she was looking for so she is moving in for the kill.
Is it Far fetched. yes. However, is it any more far fetched than Tsuzuki just happen to walk into Mizuki's job right after their subway moment, or Tsuzuki being in that ally with Mizuki's boss just as Mizuki and her fiance are walking by? Is it overly complicated? maybe. However it's a manga overly complicated plans are manga's bread and butter.

it’s ok to dream, but were did you pull all of this supposed plot from ONE CHAPTER

Well I came up with this based on Tsuzuki's line about how love is something that comes craashing down, the nigh impossible coincidence of Tsuzuki making out with Mizuki's boss in an ally, as Mizuki just happens to be strolling through, and a near desprite need for Tsuzuki not be the kind of mannipulative asshole, who dicks around with people's lives for funsies, she appears to be.

Now I don't really think I nailed the story with this wild theory. I'll call it a win if any of it is even remotely accurate. Really I just want Tsuzuki's motives to be more pure than it would be fun to mess with this poor confused woman, who is obviously attracted to me.

Edit: Everybody seems to be focused on the edit of my original post, however the first part was my genuine impression of the first chapter.

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Edit: What if the whole thing was just elaborate ruse, by blondie, to get close to the MC. Her engagement, the wedding, The make out session, with the MC's boss in that ally, as the MC just happened to be walking by, all an elaborate fake so blondie could get close. Maybe blondie is using her power of intrigue for the sake of love after all. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!! Oh god of yuri please make it be that.

Highly unlikely but I'd be on board with it.

Check it out. After their eyes met Tsuzuki is just as intrigued with Mizuki as Mizuki is with her. So she does a little research, maybe a little cyberstocking. She finds out who Mizuki is where she works. Tsuzuki comes up with a plan to get close. She talks her friend into pretending to be her fiance and arranges the meeting. That line about love crashing coming down was about that moment in the subway. When she finds out Mizuki is engaged (boo) she arranges to get cought "cheating" in the ally, to see Mizuki's reaction. She obviously saw what she was looking for so she is moving in for the kill.
Is it Far fetched. yes. However, is it any more far fetched than Tsuzuki just happen to walk into Mizuki's job right after their subway moment, or Tsuzuki being in that ally with Mizuki's boss just as Mizuki and her fiance are walking by? Is it overly complicated? maybe. However it's a manga overly complicated plans are manga's bread and butter.

There is nothing wrong with thinking little kids are cute. Because they are cute. Just like puppies and kittens.

I was hoping this story was going to be a heart felt drama about a woman awakening to her sexuality in the midst of her wedding preparations. Leaving her with the choice of sticking with her life, as she knows it, or following her true nature. She would agonize about whether or not to stay with her fiance, or leave him her the woman she truly loved. And I would root for her to follow her heart.
Then the blondie, the MC appears to be crushing on, seems to have turned out to be one of those characters whose whole point in life is to make a game of ruining other peoples lives. So much for the heart felt drama I was hoping for. Damn.
Oh well. As long as it just doesn't end with blondie's game eventually backfiring, and rekindling the MC's passion for her fiance, and sending her off into happy het world to live a proper woman's life, then it'll be fine.

Edit: What if the whole thing was just elaborate ruse, by blondie, to get close to the MC. Her engagement, the wedding, The make out session, with the MC's boss in that ally, as the MC just happened to be walking by, all an elaborate fake so blondie could get close. Maybe blondie is using her power of intrigue for the sake of love after all. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!! Oh god of yuri please make it be that.

P. S. Sorrry for the blondie and MC nick names, but I'm terrible at remembering names, and I just din't feel like going back to the story to look them up.

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Damnit. After 10 chapters we finally get significant plot development, then we hit a damn time warp, and we're warped right back to the beginning. What the hell, man!

I want you.
(Chorus) I want you.
I need you.
(Chorus) I need you.
But there ain't no way I'm ever going to love you.
But don't feel sad.
(Chorus) Don't feel sad.
Because two out of rhree ain't bad.

Edit: R.I.P. Meatloaf.

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Your right yuri sex is great. I mean nothing was more satisfying than Touko and Yuu's sex scene after the 45 chapter journey that was Bloom into You. However I'm just asking for any solid proof that there is more to Matsuri and Miss Sunflower's relationship than the close bonds of a student/mentor.

You're quite right--that's a question this series has posed from the very beginning and has yet to resolve.

On Matsuri's part, I don't think there's ever been any doubt that she has always had a full-scale romantic girl-crush on Miss Sunflower--she thinks she's cute, she swoons at Miss Sunflower treating her as someone special, she compliments Miss Sunflower's legs, etc. She likes her that way.

On the other side of the equation, in the beginning of the series I thought that Miss Sunflower was just treating Matsuri as a little kid and was entirely dismissive of Matsuri's romantic feelings. But as the series went on and we learned more about her, we saw that she keeps everybody at arm's length, emotionally speaking, and that she in fact has let Matsuri get closer to her than anybody else in her life. Furthermore, her relationship with the first Miss Sunflower strongly suggests that she (not to put too fine a point on it) likes girls.

We also found out that the age gap between the two isn't quite as large as it seems. (I forget who did the math, but I think it came out to something like 23-17, maybe?) The apparent age-gap was exaggerated by their respective body sizes and by the fact that Himawari-san acts a lot older than her age while Matsuri comes off as considerably younger than she is.

I've been arguing that Himawari-san's closed-off psychological state, which at first seemed like calmness and maturity, is something that the series has been positioning as a thing that, gently and gradually, needs to change and is changing, primarily because of Matsuri. What the end state of that process will be I have no idea. But as with Living With My Brother's Wife, the quality of the series itself has convinced me that I'll probably be OK with however it comes out.

No fair using a calm logical break down, of the plot and the characters' personalties. lol

Okay I get what your saying. However I feel a character being self conscience about their body around their "love interest", or the "yuri-genre blushing" as you put it, is a good way to distinguish between romantic love between girls, and friendship, or simple administration.
Honestly I like my yuri pretty straight forward, as you probably have guessed by now. I don't mind a long journey up that yuri hill, but I just want some assurances that I'm not going to be disappointed with just an ambiguously close friendship, as a reward.

Well, I get that too. My yuri lizard brain wants a naked makeout session in A Room for Two and for Nozomi to jump Shino’s bones in Living With My Brother’s Wife and for Matsuri to push Miss Sunflower down on the bed and rip off her clothes (“Leave the glasses on”) in this one. (And my yuri lizard brain never considers fanservice to be “meaningless.”)

But the more conscious part of me that just likes well-told stories thinks there already are plenty of straightforward “two girls do it” yuri stories, with more coming all the time, and so there’s room for more subtle variations as long as the work is good. Which in this case I think it really is.

(And to be clear, that second part of me liked 98% of A Tropical Fish Yearns For Snow a lot, but thought the ending was a copout, considering how intensely the MCs’ relationship had been developed throughout that series. So I’m by no means OK with every “ambiguously close friendship” that comes down the yuri pike.)

Your right yuri sex is great. I mean nothing was more satisfying than Touko and Yuu's sex scene after the 45 chapter journey that was Bloom into You. However I'm just asking for any solid proof that there is more to Matsuri and Miss Mayflower's relationship than the close bonds of a student/mentor.
Don'tt get me wrong I've seen subtle hints already but a couple of cute blushes would have been a cute touch.

On a side note. Just to clear things up, I might disagree over the current state of Kasumi and Sakurako's relationship in A Room for Two, but I have no doubt where it's going to end up. The simple fact that Sakurako has relationship talks, about Kasumi, with her friends assures me of that. No make out session needed.

A bath chapter, in a yuri manga, without sexual tension. How boring.

Oh johnb, what a one-track mind. (But that’s our johnb.)

I love this series and the developing characterizations, but this has never been a series with very much specifically sexual tension (as opposed to romantic interest, which tends to be subtle but fairly widespread). That’s because most of the attention of the other characters is directed at Miss Sunflower herself, and her stoical, pragmatic attitude and her willed obliviousness to her own and other people’s feelings keeps the issue of physical expressions of sexuality at arm’s length.

Matsuri > Miss Sunflower is the obvious “love” interest, but Matsuri is both too young and as yet too immature for her desire to always be with Miss Sunflower to manifest as a desire to put her XXX in Miss Sunflower’s XXX. Or vice versa.

Several of the other characters (Ayame & Fuuko, for example) clearly have “feelings” for Miss Sunflower, but everybody admires and respects her too much to make her uncomfortable by trying to push through her protective emotional shell. (Matsuri has already done it, but neither of the two quite realize what that might eventually mean yet.)

So yeah, a bath scene without the usual yuri-genre blushing and boob-groping, but this has never really been a usual yuri manga anyway.

Okay I get what your saying. However I feel a character being self conscience about their body around their "love interest", or the "yuri-genre blushing" as you put it, is a good way to distinguish between romantic love between girls, and friendship, or simple administration.
Honestly I like my yuri pretty straight forward, as you probably have guessed by now. I don't mind a long journey up that yuri hill, but I just want some assurances that I'm not going to be disappointed with just an ambiguously close friendship, as a reward.
As for the boob groping thing I've always just dismissed that as meaningless fan service.

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A bath chapter, in a yuri manga, without sexual tension. How boring.

There should be a wistful tag. Then people could at least be prepared to be bummed out before reading.

I don't it was a wishful thing, probably they breakup after graduation. classical yuri cliche

Wistful not wishful.

There should be a wistful tag. Then people could at least be prepared to be bummed out before reading.

I don't get it. I mean I get it, but I don't get it.

I think it had gone way past just being about the illustrations decades ago. In fact I think just the title itself has been considered a racial slur since at least as far back as the 60's.

Nobody in Japan knows that "Sambo" is an English slur, and it's thought of as simply being a foreign character's name like any other. Without the context of that word's English meaning or offensive illustrations, there were/are no racist undertones to the story Japanese children read.

Well Japan isn't exactly known as a bastion of racial sensitivity. After all I've heard they think nothing of dressing up in black face. I think it's probably because their a mostly a homogeneous culture so they really don't have to worry about that kind of stuff.

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I hate to say it Adachi, but it looks like you might have taken a wrong turn and ended up in dreaded "friend zone".

Cute but the racial slur title gave me whiplash

What ?

See the credits page. tl;dr Japan apparently remembers the book in question as a fun cautionary tale while most Western audiences aren't able to seperate the book from the controversial illustrations that often accompanied it.

I think it had gone way past just being about the illustrations decades ago. In fact I think just the title itself has been considered a racial slur since at least as far back as the 60's.

Holy crap! I think the plot actually took a step forward! I think I might have an "I told you so" coming, from the people on the message boards.

The MC seeing Shiki with the nurse seems to have stirred up some kind of realization about that relationship and something about the MC's own feelings about Shiki.

Yeah I got the feeling, that the MC had the whole secret one sided rival turned stalker thing going with Shiki,. I still don't get what about seeing Shiki and the nurse together set the MC off, especially now that I know that Shiki and the nurse aren't even a couple.

Edit thank you Blastaar for the 14 -sai.

You’re welcome, johnb. The thing is, although Shiki and the nurse aren’t a romantic couple, they’re essentially a two-person yuri coven—which is why Shiki tells the nurse that she’s simply reporting that she’s on the health committee, i.e., “I’m not here for lesbian advice/commiseration this time.” (One suggestive detail is that Shiki finishes her routine report to the nurse—and then the two of them go into the infirmary together and close the door.)

It’s also a hallmark of 14-sai that at times characters will have an immediate insight into the situation of specific other people or couples that everyone else misses—which is exactly what happens here when the MC realizes that Shiki has changed since first year and is amazed that nobody else seems to notice.

So are you saying the secret yuri coven meeting between Shiki and the school nurse was just the final piece of evidence, of Shiki's big personality change, that set the MC over the edge? Sort of the straw that broke the camels back. Mm (scratching chin thoughtfully) That actually makes a lot of sense.

Edit: Or are you saying is that what the MC is really feaking out about is she can't believe she is the only one to notice, the change in Shiki? Or maybe a bit of both? I guess it all could make sense, in a deeply disturbed the MC needs help from a metal heath professional, sort of way.

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Okay. I'm very confused, and looking through the comments, I'm the only one. The girl stocked Shiki-san when Shiki-san went up to meet the school nurse. The school nurse and Shiki-san seemed to be having a pretty standard conversation, until they noticed the girl paying too much attention to them. They gave her dirty looks, then went into the nurse's office to continue their conversation in private. Then the girl freaked out, for no apparent reason.
I vaguely remember reading 14, and I think I remember that Shiki-san and the nurse are together, However I don't know how that girl could conclude anything other than they don't like ease droppers.

Edit: Actually, I think I'm getting 14 mixed up with Pure Water Adolescents.

I just finished 14-sai, and if I understand correctly, Shiki and the nurse end up in a mutually supporting ally relationship because of their respective unspoken unrequited loves (Shiki for Tanaka; the nurse for the music teacher).

My read so far (I could be wrong) is that New MC has had one of those silent-observation relationships with Shiki that is something of the main series' speciality--Shiki with Tanaka at first, the transfer student with the OL on the bus, etc. (The main series has a good bit of quasi-stalking behavior that's treated in-text as just interest and close attention.)

The MC seeing Shiki with the nurse seems to have stirred up some kind of realization about that relationship and something about the MC's own feelings about Shiki.

Edited to remove my botch of the timing: this takes place in the third year after Kazuki moves away.

Yeah I got the feeling, that the MC had the whole secret one sided rival turned stalker thing going with Shiki,. I still don't get what about seeing Shiki and the nurse together set the MC off, especially now that I know that Shiki and the nurse aren't even a couple.

Edit thank you Blastaar for the 14 -sai summery.

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Okay. I'm very confused, and looking through the comments, I'm the only one. The girl stocked Shiki-san when Shiki-san went up to meet the school nurse. The school nurse and Shiki-san seemed to be having a pretty standard conversation, until they noticed the girl paying too much attention to them. They gave her dirty looks, then went into the nurse's office to continue their conversation in private. Then the girl freaked out, for no apparent reason.
I vaguely remember reading 14, and I think I remember that Shiki-san and the nurse are together, However I don't know how that girl could conclude anything other than they don't like ease droppers.

Edit: Actually, I think I'm getting 14 mixed up with Pure Water Adolescents.

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Poor Yori. This is where Hima realizes she has a thing for musicians.

I can't tell if this is really a story about an asexual relationship, or will the MCs bloom into their sexuality as they grow closer. I really hope it's the latter. Honestly I find the idea of asexual romance down right baffling, and quite frankly boring. In my opinion, if you take sex out of a relationship all you have left is just a friendship.

It should be required by law that for every angsty story with a bitter end, there should be a cute feel good story, like this, posted with it, to cheer you up and cleanse your pallet.