She gave her candy calling it love, but some were poisoned, that would have traumatised a kid and also the living environment of her house is horrible

I'm sorry to say this... but that's 100%, completely wrong. The aunt's lines about poisoned candy was a metaphor for her view on love. To her, love is something you experience over and over again with many different kinds of people—like a candy jar with lots of different flavors. You quickly "eat" them and they're gone, but there's always more out there. She invites lots of people into her home to "love". But some of them are "poison" people who proceed to beat her or violently abuse her. The aunt sees even these "poison" people as valuable and worth loving.

As to the original question, I don't know if the aunt "did" anything in particular to Satou. But obviously that apartment would be a miserable place to grow up. The aunt had a parade of random strangers constantly coming through to fuck her, and some of them were extremely violent. She left used condoms, bloody bandages, and other garbage lying all over the place. Did she ever act like a parent to Satou at all? Did she feed her? Cloth her? Help her get to school? No clue, but judging by what we know of her, the aunt was clearly a very negligent guardian, at the very best.

At the worst, well... with all these violent, depraved people coming by this apartment looking for sex, it's not hard to imagine that much worse than negligence could happen to a young girl who happened to live there. Would the aunt have even tried to protect Satou if somebody tried something? This is purely speculative. There's nothing in the text that suggests Satou was abused (at least, nothing suggesting she was abused by her aunt's "lovers"). But let's just say that this is not a good environment for a child to grow up in, and a range of awful things could've happened to her.

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It's just angst and adolescence not worth the effort.

Speak for yourself. When I watch KyoAni, I expect one of two things: angsty adolescence, or wacky hijinks paired with not -quite excessive fanservice.

Hibike appeared from the outset to be in the former category, and I have to say it has not disappointed one bit.

I'm confused over the honorific "Nee". I understand the honorific "-Chan" and "San". But "Nee" needs to be explained to me. No, I didn't mean, Ni!, I meant -Nee.

I'm asking this because although the subjects studied by the characters reflect college level topics, thus indicating they are older than age of consent, they're physically drawn as much younger. I'd like know if the manga published over there revealed character's age as younger than it seems in current translation?

Thats why I'm asking about -Nee honorific. It's a small detail left out by translation team that shows their true age when a little bit of editing allowed the manga to avoid the "loli"-tag.

Hmmm, I've had to put a bit of thought into the issue of age. To be honest, when I first read this I assumed Rise was in high school and Kuyou was in elementary school. But I was just judging by appearance. Here's my current thought process:

Rise might be in high school, or she might have recently graduated. She attends a 予備校 or yobiko, which is an intensive university exam prep school. Some are all-day programs aimed at "ronin", high school graduates who failed to get into university and want to prepare for a second attempt, and some are after-school programs for current high school students. Since we see her wear a high school uniform so often, I'm leaning towards her being in high school, but that's mainly just a guess.

The meaning of the "nee" ending plays a bit of role in determining how old Kuyou is. In general it's used for someone who fits the role of an older sister. Plus it's a term of familiarity, so people can use it however it suits them, especially in manga. From that alone, you can't really tell their exact relationship. Maybe they're ten years apart, maybe a year. However, that term of address plus the way Rise treats Kuyou and the way Kuyou acts and speaks gives me the impression she's a few years younger.

What about the books? Maybe they're the author's attempt to misdirect about age (don't know why he'd bother, considering the crap that get's published). Maybe these are subjects covered by university entrance exams. Maybe I'm interpreting all the other clues wrong and these girls are in their 20s. All I know is I've spent way too much time going back and re-reading this series for hints, researching different types of exam schools, double-checking every line, all searching for the answer to "How old are the girls in this porn manga?" I hate leaving a question unanswered, even the really meaningless ones. In the end, I'm basically back where I started, and all I've realized is that I really just don't want to know.

Edit:

I think you both read too much into this.

Now that makes three of us.

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I'm not convinced she's that young? I mean, it might be a translation mistake, but if she's studying for the bar exam...Unless things work VERY differently in Japan, that puts her at college level. I know Rise was high-school aged when she first showed up, but that montage suggests they've been dating for an unspecific length of time.

Edit: Yeah, looked it up, and in Japan lawyers still don't take the bar exam until after law school, so either these girls are prodigies, or they're just young-looking 20-somethings. Or the study book title was mistranslated.

When I translated the book title, I was very confused, but it definitely says "bar exam"　司法試験. However, don't read too much into that. Rise is explicitly described as a high school student, and Kuyou calls her "Rise-nee" and is being tutored by her, so Kuyou is almost certainly middle school or younger. My only guess is that the bar exam book is a joke by the author, just like how Rise is studying signal processing in her cram school in chapter 6.

At any rate, as will be made very clear in the following chapters, Kuyou is definitely a minor, and nowhere near the age where she'd be studying for the bar exam. Nor is Rise qualified to instruct her.

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I have no clue which direction this is going in now, this cheating angle seems like it came out of nowhere

I believe the cheating is the whole point of this manga, and we just took a while to realize it. Mark my words, we're going to see A cheat on B with C, C cheat on A with D, D cheat on C with E, etc until Z will randomly run into some woman and bang her and we'll be like "Hmmm... she looks familiar. Oh wait, that's the original main character!"

I mean, one of the first things we learned about Reina was that she had a crush on the music teacher. And Kumiko had a couple awkward moments with that trombone guy over their relationship. Whatever else was going on, there was always that element in the background.

It always felt like there was some weird internal struggle in that show. Lots of people just say "fucking yuribait" and leave it at that, but it never felt that cynical to me. It's like there was some artistic dispute over the direction of the series, or maybe the creators were trying to say something I just haven't been able to understand.

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Sorry to bump a thread but this tweet come though

https://twitter.com/kovachi_luka/status/1123213639366742016

The context seems unclear to me does this mean the series has stopped or its just a thank you for buying?

Think she's just taking the opportunity of the end of the era to reflect on how long the series has been going. It says, "I never thought my first serial would continue for so long. I hope you continue to support Hana ni Arashi during the Reiwa Era as well", so I don't think she's announcing the end of the series.

Thank you for letting me know. So, to teach me to fish, where do I go finding out about manga being translated here and still being published across the pond?

I think what is usually your best bet is to find the magazine the series is being published in, and then try to find what chapter was in the most recent issue. In this case, this month's issue of Comic Megastore Alpha contained Chapter 10, and the end of Chapter 10 says "to be continued", so I know this series is up to Chapter 10 and is still being published. The publisher's website usually has a list of currently serialized manga, but lots of the time they don't tell you exactly which chapters those series have gotten to, so you have to find the raws or at least the table of contents for the most recent issue.

"Hmm, maybe I should move on from her?"
"Hi there!"

Normally I'd make fun, but honestly I wish the real world worked like this.

Sometimes it's best to get straight to the point, no matter how awkward the transition.

So, how many chapters are left in this manga?

It's still serialized. 10 chapters are currently out.

Why is this angst? Should I prepare myself for the future chapters?

Assume crash positions

For some reason, the best kind of yuri porn is the one’s that make you laugh. XD
Seriously!

This doesn't quite meet the standard of yuri comedy porn set by Is My Hobby Weird, but it does get pretty funny.

If you click on the button with your profile name in the top right, one of the options there is "Upload Request". You can use that to provide information about and a link to your files for the manga you scanned (I'm pretty sure you can use google drive or some other file/image hosting service). Then, I believe a member of the upload team will at some point will review your request and decide whether or not to put it on the site.

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I'm imagining this author drawing this, thinking, "and then this super hot girl comes in and saves me and you fall to your knees and sob, you fucking bitch! Oh, but I'll forgive you, because I know I'm better than you."

This bullying arc, as satisfying as it was to read, was just... a little excessive. I get the impression that someone had some issues in high school, and drawing this manga is a form of therapy.

SEMPAIIIIIIIII~! This made my day and why does she say Sempai and not Senpai. Did the wise taught me wrong? Idk. But I can live with that. Mmm.

Why do you say tempura and not tenpura?

Wait, who does that? And why? Is this one of those "goddamn Anglophones" things?

No. I'm just pointing out that romanization of Japanese is inconsistent. There are multiple competing standards, and none of them are right or wrong. Also, in practice, people tend to mix and match, switching from one to another within the same text, or even within the same sentence.

For example, the sentence "Senpai likes tempura" uses two different methods of romanizing the pre-bilabial ん. One is based on the Japanese writing system: it's always written the same character in Japanese, it's always transliterated as 'n', even when it isn't pronounced that way. And one is based on Japanese phonology: ん is pronounced 'm' when it occurs before a bilabial consonant, so it's transcribed as 'm' in those cases.

So neither "senpai" nor "sempai" is wrong.

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SEMPAIIIIIIIII~! This made my day and why does she say Sempai and not Senpai. Did the wise taught me wrong? Idk. But I can live with that. Mmm.

Why do you say tempura and not tenpura?

schuyguy posted:

instead of fucking someone behind her back and then trying to lie about it.

To be fair Yukino only did it, because she thought that's what Setsuko told her to do, when in fact, she totally misunderstood it, because Setsuko was being vague and assumed Yukino will figure out what she really meant, but since Yukino was totally lost, because all of it was completely new to her, she took her words at face value. So the whole thing was kinda Setsuko's fault.

I don't buy that for a second, and I don't think Yukino did either. If she actually believed Setsuko would be fine with her fucking someone else, she wouldn't have felt so guilty or tried to lie about it. She knew very well that she'd betrayed her, that's why she obsessed over the thought of Setsuko leaving her afterwards.

Yukino clearly felt very insecure in their relationships, and a large part of that was the way she fixated on the idea of Setsuko sleeping with a man. That insecurity seems to be the main thing that drove her to do what she did. But she didn't seriously believe that something Setsuko had said right when they first got together was long-standing permission for her to sleep with someone else. If she had believed that, then she would've reacted to the whole situation very differently.

The reason Setsuko become more controlling, might be because she realized she fucked up by not being clear, so she tried to fix that by making sure she'll never again say or do something Yukino can misunderstood.

That might be part of it, but for me the main reason is that she realized how much she cared about Yukino and how much she feared losing her. That's the whole point of Chapter 13, and especially this page in particular. This is the first time we get to see things from Setsuko's POV, and we realize that she's not the cool, self-confident person Yukino believes her to be.

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TBQH, Setsuko comes off as the worse person here. She seduces and manipulates an insecure younger woman, telling her that if she hesitates to move in with her she must not be serious. WTF? Living together is a big, life changing decision, not something to be made on the spot. If I were Yukino I'd dump Setsuko right there. I still love this manga but I feel bad for Yukino every time, she deserves better.

I think you're being very unfair. When Setsuko "seduced" Yukino, all she did was hit on a woman she found attractive, invite her over, and then have sex with her. They're both adults, there's nothing wrong with that.

The way she acted when it came to inviting Yukino to live with her was pretty messed up. But if we're going to compare them, it was nowhere near as fucked up as what Yukino had done to her. The whole point of that section was to show that Setsuko isn't perfect. She's a flawed human being and she also feels desperate and insecure. But at least she was honest about her goals, instead of fucking someone behind her back and then trying to lie about it. Personally, I'd have a much easier time forgiving Setsuko than Yumiko.

You could see the way Setsuko acts throughout the second half of the story as something of a reaction to Yumiko cheating on her. She realizes how terrible she'd feel if she lost Yumiko and at the same time feels unable to trust her, and so she becomes more controlling. This isn't really fair to Yumiko (if someone's wronged you and you decide to forgive them, it's just cruel to continue to hold it against them) but it is completely understandable. Normal people often react this way to being hurt.

EDIT/ Also it seems it was in different video, but for example Nausicaä was consider a "moe character" at her time.

I still think Nausicaa is a "moe" character, to the extent that that even means anything. The proportions, especially the size of her eyes relative to her head, are unrealistic. She's even got a cute little pet. And a... uh... cute... big... gun? Definitely moe.

That being said, I am sorry for being so angry and triggered, but I've had enough from this author. I'm one of those people who rarely comment on stuff, but their continuous portrayal of shitty Subtext as Yuri has hit on a nerve (And no, we tomboys don't want to be secretly feminine, fuck anyone who has this kind of mindset). I wasted ten minutes of my life reading this crap, I'll never get them back. So I genuinely beg of the moderators, or whoever is responsible for tagging stories, PLEASE DON'T tag Subtext as Yuri. I'm speaking from the bottom of my heart, I will forever be grateful to you.

I can only say that you're reading this wrong. The author isn't saying that tomboys secretly want to be feminine. The author is saying that this character wants to be more feminine. If you're taking offense at that, then you really have no one to blame but yourself.

Also, the interaction between these characters is romantic. If you need them to come out and say they love each other before you can see that, then I'm sorry, but your reading comprehension is just very bad. There's more going on in a story than the literal meaning of the dialogue. As well as the usual tools of any literary medium, manga is a visual art, and the imagery contributes to the meaning.

The fangirls were a bit narrow-minded, but good people in the end. Pretty refreshing, honestly. I bet they'd come around to the Cute Side eventually (especially if they saw Yoshii dressed up in-person).

I think that's my favorite part of this manga. Unlike others in its genre, the gang of girls weren't complete assholes about the whole thing. I can't even blame them for pressuring Chihiro, since she apparently never gave any indication that she was anything less than perfectly happy to go along with their games. That's completely her fault, you can't expect people to change how they treat you if you never let them know you want them to.

And then when Toda got upset and stormed out, rather than ostracizing her they just invited her into their group. I was 100% expecting bullying to become an issue, but it just never did.

I don't think the author is saying "all tomboys secretly long to be super girlish and cutesy" just "this tomboy secretly longs to be super girlish and cutesy".

Fragtime? Isn’t it supposed to be “Fracture in Time?”

Where'd you get that from? "Fragtime" is a direct transliteration of the Japanese title, フラグタイム, as well as being the official English title from the publisher. It's the name of their website and everything https://frag-time.com/

That probably because it take far less work than inking lot of random background people with dark hair

Exactly my thought. Brown hair needs screentone, black hair needs inking. Generally you can assume that the hair isn't really blond. Just like blue hair or pink hair whatever other crazy colors characters have, if no one comments on it then it's just manga shorthand for dark brown or black.

The "well, that's because I haven't heard your answer" line reminded me of that joke about logicians:
Three logicians walk into a bar. The bartender asks "Does everyone want beer". The first logician says "I don't know," the the second logician says "I don't know", and then the third answers "Yes".

hmmm...I can't seem to find the family was killed. Financially dried up maybe. The word lunatic. To whom was it referring to, Youko or Tsukiko? Since each has her own weirdness.

It's in the closet on the last page. That slip of paper sticking out of Youko File 37 says 事故死を followed by what appears to be 装 (the character is partially cut off, but that fits what's there). That's basically "make the death(s) look like an accident". There's a reason the author is showing that to us, which is to make the implication that Tsuki either killed the family or had them killed, but was definitely somehow involved in their deaths.

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