NO, her conversation ch64 (when they were crying at Sumin's house)
and the one they had ch54, at Seju's office as Sumin tried to break up with her defy that.
* in case you forgot the scene, Seju said in both of them basically : "you know how much I wanted to be by your side ?"

This happened too late; Sumin has already been in love with Sungji.

also her dialogue with Nammi as she broke down in ch48, she said to Nammi who called their relationship "meaningless": if you want to criticise this relationship as nothing more than a physical one, go ahead.. I don't care what you call it, I don't need anything else so tell them all to fuck off"

Isn't the fact that Seju knew that other people might call their relationship "meaningless", or might want to criticize it as nothing more than a physical relationship because their relationship was kinda like that? I think Sumin wanted more than that kind of relationship, but since Seju was satisfied with only that much, Seju stopped trying harder. Plus seeing that Sumin always came back to her, I guess she got more confidence, which resulted in her neglecting her relationship with Sumin even more. Yeah, I know Seju loves Sumin genuinely. I could see her loyalty from a reader's pov, but it's hard to see it clearly from Sumin's pov. In front of Sumin, Seju almost did nothing at all but flirting, no? I think by now Sumin has already realized that Seju wants her back for real, but it is too late since she has already chosen Sungji.

what we were talking about, Seju did try to convince Sumin to forgive her.. and worked harder than Sumin to Sungji

I don't think it even right to find out who worked harder. It's 10 years Vs. 10 days(?). Who knows, Seju perhaps had been only sleeping in her bed during the first 10 days after broke up. If Sungji had not had forgiven Sumin, maybe Sumin would have worked harder and waited for 10 years too, who knows?

Maybe Seju did try to convince Sumin, but her agreeing with Sumin dating anybody, giving her dating advice, and encouraging her to date someone might give her the wrong idea. I don't think it's hard to believe that Seju only wanted to be in a sex buddy relationship with Sumin.

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Sorry, I don't feel like rereading any chapter of wdtfs at the moment. Maybe, you could write down what was happening there?

You know, sometimes, too much doting someone also means completely ignoring them. Sumin might always think that the fact that Seju agreed with her dating whatever kind of women because Seju had stopped wanting to be in a real relationship with her again.

I think the first time Seju openly asked for her forgiveness and openly asked to start over again was when Sumin was crying over the breakup with Sungji.

During the whole 10 years, Seju had never openly asked for a forgiveness, so Sumin had never gotten a chance to forgive her and started over again with her either. Sumin thought the only option she could have was moving on with someone else. As she kept trying to move on, she went into many relationships that didn't work. Because she got to be in a broken relationship again and again, her hatred on Seju came to her mind again and again as well.

but I don't understand why she keeps saying that she "hates" Seju after each time she says that she loves her.. I don't think it's the cheating tho

Sumin loves and hates Seju at the same time. Sumin hates Seju for cheating on her. But despite hating her, she still loves her. She took out her anger on Seju everytime something bad happened to her such as her relationship not working, and so on. When she was not being hurt, she felt guilty for hurting Seju, which was when she was able to admit that she still loved Seju.

all in all, I know someone who slept with random ppl, called their ex to hear the moans.. and indulged in threesomes, dated 30+ girls !! on average, a girl every 4 months !! broke up with a girl while she was eating her.. before she directly jumped to her first ex's bed !!
a miracle that Seju didn't catch an STD keeping up with Sumin
the hell is that

Noooo, don't talk like that about darling. Btw, it seems you forgot to write down the fact that she also still let her ex be her sugar mom. lol

People should ask Team Gaji this, "up to these days, has Sumin loved Sungji with all her heart?"

The question is... Did sumin love to seju is really that great?

I don't think so... At least not as great as seju's love to sumin

Her love for Seju belongs with the greatest loves. The author said "Up until the day Seju cheated, Sumin loved Seju with all her heart."

Lol I'm just saying my opinion of how I'd think the story could/should progress in the scenario that Sumin doesn't want to go back with Seju again.

Same here.

Got it, she should stop being Sumin's pet and start living as a stray pet for god's sake

Or maybe...she could start living as a human

For god's sake.

instead of any type of pet?

For her sake, respect her decision on what kind of life she prefers more.

So because she's been like this for ten years, it means she should never try to change it, and just spend the rest of her life being Sumin's pet?

Funny. It's her life. Are you sure that she does not prefer to be a Sumin's pet to a queen of the world? Got it, she should stop being Sumin's pet and start living as a stray pet for god's sake.

It's not the middle of nowhere. She can find place to stay, even find ways to buy herself some emotional support too.
Like find a good therapist, buy a nice house in the nature, or buy lots of pets.

She can try moving on when she has found all of those things you wrote above, it's risky for her to start moving on now and expects to have those things found in the future.

Sumin should not be her god, to the point where she is willing to lose all of her self respect.

I don't think she still has her self respect. I don't think she needs it either. Btw, is self respect really important?

They can still be friends of course, but if Sumin choses Sungji, she should just accept it for once.

I know she should accept it for once cuz Sungji is a protagonist, not a typical Sumin's gf.

I know there are other manga's that address similar concept but very few to do with Korean society on homosexuality.

Korean Society or Conservative Asian Society?

this manga addresses certain things about Korean Society.

TTP is not a korean manhwa, right?

I hope more people read this manga as to me its more realstic than what does the fox say where everyone is gay lol.

No, not everyone is, only hot ones are. But, this concept is not new though, it happened in every yuri manga I've read.

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I'm not sure if I like Seju staying too close to Sumin in the end. I mean yes this friendship will benefit to her, but it ultimately feels like a character waste. Seju living in their shadow forever.

I don't see why she should move out of their shadow to live in the middle of nowhere. If she is emotionally satisfied, her living in others' shadow or hell doesn't matter imo. At the end of the day, it's all about her own satisfaction.

It's weird how he trust Saehyun in everything related to Seju.. as if he knows that Saehyun would never hurt her.

I guess Seju's father knows the reason why moleguy hurt Sumin.

Haha. I believe Seju is more than capable of protecting her own life. She also should have learned a lot from the attack last time too.

You just said:

could the police protect her ?

Tbh, I never really understand why people believe that Seju leaving to USA can save her life, just like how they thought that her living in a hotel was safer than in her house.

Where? And you just said:

all the scandals they won't probably stop until she dies."

How much do 100 assassins cost. lol Just kidding. If she couldn't know how to protect herself, then die. Her father can't live until she grows old. He is 80 now.

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I meant Seju would be much safer had her father passed away cuz she would be able to fight back; hurts them, reports them, and so on. She is holding back going against her idiot brothers right now because her father is still alive.

I'm kind of lost here. Why is Seju be safe because of her father? She couldn't be sent to the hospital, she couldn't tell the police about her being attacked either because she had to avoid shocking her father to death, right? If her father had passed away, wouldn't Seju's life be safer?

Nooooo, Darling is not abnormal. Darling is just a little too slow to be true. Please, don't attack Darling's personalility. xD