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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

Zwei follows commands well :o

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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

Dang. I was just mentally venting about all the relationship angles that are never covered in the Yuri I manage to find and whadya know?! Ex-girlfriends!

This is like 6th time someone's said that, so I want to point out that ex-girlfriends are nothing revolutionary in yuri. There are a bunch of stories that focus on that. Whether it's the main couple or (far more often) a side-couple.
Like an entire arc in AnoKIss was devoted to a couple getting back together after a break up, for example.

I wonder if they are more common in stuff tagged with things I won't read . . .

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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

Dang. I was just mentally venting about all the relationship angles that are never covered in the Yuri I manage to find and whadya know?! Ex-girlfriends!

Use to wonder how much thought people put into the fact that marceline and bubble gum were ex(allegedly at the time. Confirmed later) Meaning NOT togetger. Everyone seemed as a happy as if they were dating. I was happy they were happy but there was suppose to be a difference. Heh.

Anyone make the camera. detectes Yuri joke yet?

last edited at Apr 24, 2019 3:09AM

Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

Yuri, like all ,edit come with may different tastes. Some you may like and some you won't. That's okay. If it's not for you there's something out there that will tickle your fancy. If so, great. There's something for everyone and not everyone has to like what everyone else likes. That's to be celebrated.

All that said, this is cute and funny. Balanced, as all things should be.

What I was going to say. Even if its not for me, I do still hope it finds its audience and that authors don't change what they want to do just because it will never appeal to someone like me.

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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

Suggestion to make useless lesbian a real tag lo/

I know you joke, but I feel like rambling about this, especially in light of the complaints about certain tropes, so bear with me.

Most yuri that I've seen on this site has useless lesbians. It might be easier to tag the ones where the characters specific mental hangups or other reasons stand in the way of the relationship, the ones where "just confessing" or similar, relatively simple actions, wouldn't resolve the main conflict. Bloom into You is one such example.

The "useless lesbian" phenomenon is on one hand just the lesbian edition of the cluster of romantic tropes including "oblivious to love" and "can not spit it out", but on the other hand the real life implications of romance between women puts these tropes in a different context. Not just because it's more likely that someone is oblivious to love, if the kind of attraction they are experiencing is not centered in their culture, and that they may be more afraid of admitting to those feelings for fear of repercussions.

But there's also a specific kind of isolation to the wlw experience. E.g. the size of the dating pool in your area, the assumption that "she's probably straight", the lack of access to a community, if you don't live in the right place. And that's if you are out to yourself. It's possibly worse to go through high school, not even knowing what you're missing, but that something's just not right.

I'm not saying that yuri manga authors secretly conspire to intentionally reference this experience by restricting most of their works to be about school girls, and follow the useless lesbians narrative. The publishers look for profit, and the artists most often follow their own personal influences (which are often school girl yuri), or can't afford to spend too much time with developing stories that would radically break with conventions. But at the same time, I feel like the state of yuri manga unintentionally reflects the isolation that I mentioned above. In these school girl yuri manga, teenage girls fall in love with each other, but these romances are isolated occurrences, as the stories rarely allow the girls' attempts to contextualize their feelings, or seek community with other girls and women like them. This is probably also an example of how the industry dilutes the aspects of yuri that can radically challenge the real life status quo... Most yuri readers are looking for a comfortable break from the harsh realities of the world (understandably so), so stories that take those realities seriously are bad for business. But I'm getting off topic.

Naturally, averting or subverting the useless lesbian narrative is not a bad thing - quite the opposite. Sapphic stories that are more optimistic or don't present the lesbian experience as an inherent obstacle, are absolutely crucial. I totally share the frustration with the dearth of these kinds of stories. But before dismissing these tropes as cliché, it's worth considering how they connect to real life, and in what ways they can still be relevant. What I wish for is more stories that are honest about the real life situation, but aren't limited by it. For example, Prism and Cotton Candy both offer a short but startlingly "real" glimpse at lesbophobia, despite the fact that both of them are fairly upbeat and optimistic throughout.

And this is why we can't have nice things!

I do try to keep in mind why so many lead charactres i find to be boring probably are leads to begin with. Playing it safe and whatnot. This was a nice and interesting post. Really should go to bed now though.

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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

This is just the yuri crowd starving for content. Without the "yuri" tag people wouldn't look at this manga twice.

I slag off Yuri all the time(as a fan) but id be into this even if it want Yuri. I almost said ad much in an earlier post in this very thread. I think I'm probably just sweet on characts that ponder a lot though.

last edited at Apr 23, 2019 3:50AM

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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

How is this any good with the same tropes hammered over and over and over?

This isn't any better than that "We can't draw love" trainwreck.

Does it start being original at some point?

Cause this one has an astronaught. Its so obvious.

Actually. I dropped we can't date love. No offense to its fans. I just couldn't find the leads interesting at all.

but I ahem LOVE this story.

I like the way the characters are written here. Something about all that introspection. Well. I can't really articulate what it is right now. I'll try in the morning I think.

Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

Hell of a cliffhanger!
A very enjoyable read.
Heh Heh. The mom busts out martial arts moves when her older sister comes around?

So many good scenes and great characters.

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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

Ugh, another manga about how tomboys secretly long to be girly and are being forced into it by peer pressure or some nonsense.

Now that you mention it, I guess I have seen this quite a bit but off the top of my head I can think of almost as many stories where the tomboy was just a tomboy. Many times they were just side characters though . .

Gotta admit. So many oneshots are just so damn forgettable though.

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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

I for one enjoyed this one shot and certainly empathised with Toda-san. People aren't necessarily malicious. But the unintentional pressure and expectations they have can push you in certain directions.

Yeah. Very nicely put.

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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

Oh. I'm liking the last few chapters. I have a Yuri confession to make. I tend drop things that get formulaic. I'm happy for people who can stick with those sort of stories though(and I know this moment of seriousness may only be temporary as it goes back to the formula)

last edited at Apr 19, 2019 3:33AM

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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

That went better than I thought it would. Kept thinking every other page was going to be one of those abrupt endings and say "fin." I like how she ended up unwilling part of the fan club. That was kinda different and neat.

Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

Its here?! Woo! Now I just need to actually find time to dive in!

Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

To disorient Kagami in battle, just take her puppy away from her. That's all for today's military lesson!

That's a war crime under the Hague Conference of 1899.

As well it should be. Puppy theft is serious.

Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

To disorient Kagami in battle, just take her puppy away from her. That's all for today's military lesson!

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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
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Woooooow. So good!

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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015
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Niiiiice!
looks hell of a discussion you all got going here.
I love Fate. Has the highest number of characters I despise tho. But balanced by so many good characters.

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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

Oof. As someone pretty much refuses to socialize in real life . . . that statement about casting a line . . . hitting close to home.

Something else about the level of introspection in this story is so SO good. Makes many other characters in yuri feel I don't know, seem like bigger air heads than the tall and short friends in this story

Who knew id be taking life advice from a person in a space suit and from the future?

Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

These comments are pretty funny. applauds again

Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

appluads that discussion was productive. Heh.
I really like the shape of lighter haired girl's eyes.

last edited at Apr 8, 2019 12:13AM

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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

Yeah. The hugging thing had me scratching my head as Fujishiro has been "hands on" since chapter 2. Forgot how pushy she was too! Not a deal breaker or anything. Still one of my favorite Yuri ever so far.

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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

I love how the delinquint finally someone who isn't attractive. Nice

Ouch. According to quite a few comments here that seems to be debatable lol

I have a feeling girls who like butch are into it. Guy readers generally not.

What? I like her design a lot. I like characters that aren't typical in appearance. I love deliquents. Muscled girls. Tomboys. I also really like the human female in the dragon maid manga/anime cause she is so unlikeca typical anime character.

If fact, moe blob crap gets right on my damn nerves.

Edit: oh. You said "generally." nevermind.

last edited at Apr 7, 2019 6:55PM

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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

Heh heh. So silly.

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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

Love everything about this story. Except the secret dating thing. Would really like that dealt with but apart from that it's terrific! So many of the things I bitch about wanting in a Yuri.

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Your_hair_has_gotten_longer_by_folksneedheroes-d5l5v69
joined Apr 23, 2015

I never felt I was the "only one" for anyone in anything, so I have no idea what Fujishiro is going through right now.

Interesting. I haven't either but this one i can kinda understand. At least in this story. What with this girl cutting off all her friends for just this one person.

Loneliness is something I have trouble relating to. I know the meaning but its just not something ive honestly ever really felt.

last edited at Mar 30, 2019 6:12PM