Now that the main characters are meeting each other's families, having them solely be referred to their last names is getting a bit awkward. It's fine for Shimamura's younger sister to call her "Sis," but it's more than a little strange for Adachi to have to point out that Shimamura's mother is referring to her elder daughter when she says "she," not to mention how impersonal it is. Besides, Shimamura doesn't even like her family name, so one would think that she'd suggest going by her first name (a bit like Umiko in New Game).

And another chapter passes without Kanda revealing that she's female. I'm starting to wonder if they're going to drag this out as long as possible, and have Ookuma find out about Kanda being a woman (and not necessarily because Kanda told her) in the last few chapters.

That's a fairly impressive timeline of Citrus+ so far.

Usually, when I see months pass without a new chapter for a popular series, I assume that the scanlators, not the people who make the manga, are taking a hiatus, unless there's an official announcement saying otherwise. Sometimes the scanlators don't have the time, people or interest to continue with a project, and considering that people aren't quite as fond of Citrus+, the latter is possibly true here.

Out of curiosity, what's with Yuzu asking Mei to say "I love you," once a day, and previously asking for them to kiss once a day in the original series? I doubt many couples put daily quotas on displays of affection, but I could be mistaken.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/operation_more_love_love_web_edition_ch02#7

... How the hell is Hana two meters tall???

That doesn't seem very accurate. Even Nonna, who's the tallest girl in the cast, is only 176 cm tall.
https://gup.fandom.com/wiki/Nonna

Hana's actual height is 163 cm.
https://gup.fandom.com/wiki/Hana_Isuzu

Self-deprecation is one hell of a drug, glad to see Yumimi going for the intervention.

As far as I know, this is a Japanese custom, in which you're expected to disagree with all compliments you or certain family members (particularly your children) receive, or else you'll be seen as arrogant. I get why it can be seen as overly negative when it isn't false modesty, though.

Although the abuse part was really painful to read.

The sad thing is that it seems to be pretty common for folks on the spectrum to stay with shitty people, so the shitty boyfriend was sadly accurate too.

True. As someone who's on the autism spectrum myself, I have to wonder if Tatsuki never noticed all the red flags, such as when Keita berates Tatsuki for causing trouble for him as a full-timer before "magnanimously" forgiving her because she's cute, seemingly in order to manipulate her. I suspect that he'd been abusing Tatsuki, even hitting her, for a while, and she never realized that what he was doing was wrong.

Another thing that supports the idea of Keita having always been abusive is the author's notes saying, "Being young, (Keita) figured Tatsuki would be naïve and easy to deal with," which makes me wonder if he thought she'd be easy to control. The fact that he convinces her to quit her job when she breaks up with him, something she easily accepts, lends credence to this idea.

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I agree with this point. A lot of the characters only came off as romantic rivals or other ways to develop Yuzu and Mei, help facilitate their relationship, and ended up coming off as extras once their introductory arcs were done. By comparison, Bloom Into You had only one "rival"- Sayaka- who came off as an actual three-dimensional character, rather than a plot device.

Some may disagree, but I found Sayaka to be the only 3-dimensional character in Bloom Into You. Everyone else, from Doujima, Maki and even Koyomi were no more "developed" than any of the other less-significant characters in Citrus. But that's the thing. They don't need to be. They're side characters. They stay in the background and do their own thing, occasionally interacting with our main cast and getting some moments to shine. Like side characters are supposed to do.

Also, why is everyone sleeping on mah gurl Himeko? She had some great development over the course of the story! Not to mention her role as a "love rival" lasted less than a chapter and was never really taken seriously by either Mei or Yuzu.

And Matsuri's transition from manipulative and devilish gremlin to the voice of reason who genuinely cares about Yuzu and Mei's relationship... she's unquestionably best girl!

If you ask me, the majority of Citrus' cast (besides the twins, Shirapon and Mitsuko) are far from plot devices.

Regarding the Bloom Into You cast, I personally felt they had lives of their own that, while connected with the leads in some ways, didn't solely exist to push the plot forward. For example, Koyomi has her own dream of becoming an author, which is touched on in Chapter 25, and for her, writing the school play is a way of furthering that dream. Maki also serves well as a foil to Yuu, and while Doujima's mostly comic relief, there are moments when he shows a surprisingly reliable side.

I actually liked Himeko more than most of the rest of Citrus' cast, particularly her friendship with Mei. It was nice to see Matsuri come to care about Yuzu and (to some extent) Mei, but it was also a bit difficult to accept how easily she got off for blackmailing Mei.

Regarding Yuzu and Mei's relationship, I do agree that there's going to be more than a little awkwardness as they try to rebuild their relationship after the events of the end of Volume 9 up until the last chapter of the original series. In that sense, I appreciate that Citrus Plus actually tries to fill in the blanks and bridge the gap between Yuzu talking Mei out of the arranged marriage and actually getting together with her. Of course, I can't help but worry that there will be some sort of contrived drama at the eleventh hour, but since the story's still in its early phases, we'll just have to see how it goes.

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You're free to have your own opinion and dislike this work, as all of your points are valid. But contrary to what this discussion may have you believe, some people, like myself, still love this story and these characters. Please don't invalidate that.

I didn't invalidate anything. I'm aware that Citrus is really popular, and outside of this forum people don't really criticize it much. Just making an observation that I think this is author's strategy to keep the story going, since most of the side characters haven't really offered anything significant. Most of them except Matsuri and Harumin could be removed from the story without anything changing.
You might say for example, the twins have pushed Yuzu to confess, but this really was unnecessary since Yuzu could have decided to do that on her own without the whole "my fated person" thing from Sarah, and we could see a more introspective Yuzu.
Without the twins there could still be a confession, but with them we got like at least five extra chapters. So furthering the length of this manga.
Then, Harumin's sister. Again, unnecessary drama and she became quickly irrelevant after expanding the story.
So the twins, Nene, Shirapon, Harumin's sister all have taken up a significant length of the story, but are discardable.
Notice how I didn't mention side characters like Yuzu's mom, Mei's dad and grandad, Yuzu's friends from middle school, the manager who Mei was going to get married to. Because these characters have actually contributed important parts to the story.
And frankly, even with this push from everyone, Yuzu and Mei development is still really slow. It feels like we're going in cycles which makes me believe even more that this is a way from the author to just add length to the story.
I don't have a problem with slow development as long as it makes sense. And yeah, some people might say love is not logical, but someone's actions still have to be based on something. People are still not mindless creatures to be acting completely random from one day to the other.

I agree with this point. A lot of the characters only came off as romantic rivals or other ways to develop Yuzu and Mei, help facilitate their relationship, and ended up coming off as extras once their introductory arcs were done. By comparison, Bloom Into You had only one "rival"- Sayaka- who came off as an actual three-dimensional character, rather than a plot device.

In fact, I'd suspect that this is why Citrus' story fell apart in the last two volumes of the original series, if not earlier- the author is decent at setting things up, but can't deliver the payoff. If the author doesn't have any sort of long term vision for all the side characters, then of course she'd struggle with the main couple, especially in the spin-off showing what happened between the resolution of Mei's second arranged marriage and her wedding to Yuzu.

It's true that they don't interact that much, but Makoto's probably the one Haru's closest with. Even apart from the nickname, Haru also is the most worried about Makoto in the sixth palace (without spoiling too much, their personal circumstances are similar in some ways).

Does Catherine remind anyone else of Catherine from Fire Emblem: Three Houses(not just the name, but also the hair and skin tone)?

I'm curious; is Hina related to Sayo in this doujin? Sayo refers to her by her first name, as opposed to her last name with honorifics, but they obviously aren't twins if Hina's one of the kids here.

I really like the art for this pic, which looks a lot like the game.

I paired Byleth with Mercedes on my Golden Deer playthrough, but I hope to see some more Mercedes/Annette art.

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I liked this chapter, especially Haru getting a turn as the POV character, but I do have to wonder if the story is veering toward romance territory, since Haru's starting to question the nature of her feelings toward Midori.

Now that I think about it, the girl does seem to be Misaki, assuming it's her surname, rather than her first name (Another has a girl with the first name Misaki, and two characters with the surname Misaki).

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There isn't, but sword classes get Axebreaker, which gives bonuses against axe wielders.

Of course, even in games with the weapon triangle, I've found that if a unit's significantly more powerful than its opponent, it being at a disadvantage when it comes to the weapon triangle isn't as important.

I was hoping that the misunderstanding would be resolved by the end of the first chapter. In stories like this, the first chapter generally establishes the premise of the work, and having Kanda be outed as a girl would have made for a good first chapter twist. As some other posters said, I'm still holding out hope for Satomi realizing that Kanda is a girl by the end of the first volume.

It's unfortunate that these two can't get an A support in the game.

Of course, even if they could, they wouldn't necessarily get paired together; I'd hoped to pair Mercedes with Annette on my Blue Lions playthrough, but in the ending, Mercedes got paired with Dedue, while Annette got Gilbert.

I liked this chapter. While it's a bit disappointing that Yuu and Touko probably won't come out to their families and friends in the course of the manga, it's good to see them enjoying a romantic evening together.

I'm personally curious as to what the final chapter will be about, now that Touko and Yuu are a couple, and virtually all the loose ends are as wrapped up as they ever will be.

I'm a bit surprised that Yuri's so insistent on demanding that Tomoko switch from using "-chan" on her to using yobisute. Most female characters that I know of are perfectly fine with their friends calling them "-chan", unless they think it's too childish for their tastes.

@whatayuri I'll take that as a yes.

Personally, I had my doubts about Rhea after she had all the Western Church followers executed, and after reading Jeralt's diary, joining up with Edelgard(my female Byleth's eventual wife) was a fairly easy choice.

Without spoiling too much, Ymir's clothes are from a Season 2 flashback, while Christa's are from the first half of Season 3. I can tell why you'd think it was from Star Wars, though.

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Would this technically count as incest?

Kou's panties are reserved for Rin's eyes only (well, so she would prefer).

Is there anyone who hasn't seen them?

Momo didn't know about the "sleeping in panties" part until Aoba told her. To quote Chapter 64:

Aoba: On my first day, I saw Yagami-san sleeping under her desk in just her panties and a shirt. So at first, I thought she had to be pretty sloppy, I guess.
Momo: What? She really did that?
Aoba: Yeah! You never saw because she doesn't stay the night as much these days.
Momo: That's a surprise... although she does seem careless at times, so I guess I can see it.

It's hard to say for certain about the people who joined before Aoba, but I doubt many people outside of the character team have seen Kou sleeping in her panties. If Shizuku had seen Kou like that, she'd probably never let Kou forget it.

The Black Eagles route was my first choice, and I paired Female Byleth with Edelgard. I'm glad to see other people ship these two.

Thanks for the explanation. I played Kirby's Adventure and Super Star, but not in co-op.

I find the developments in Chapter 8 interesting. While it's been implied that Tsugumi didn't have a good relationship with her family at the time of her death, this chapter seems to imply that the problems first came up while she was in high school.

I'm also still curious as to why Tsugumi apparently never once contacted Midori in the fourteen years between Haru's birth and Tsugumi's death. One would assume that Tsugumi and Midori parted on bad terms the last time they spoke, but Haru's narration seems to imply that she didn't try hard enough to be there for Midori. As such, it's possible that Tsugumi ran into a problem of some sort, possibly an unplanned pregnancy, and deciding that she couldn't confide in Midori, went off to deal with it by herself.

Incidentally, while it's certainly possible that Midori is autistic, it doesn't seem that farfetched for her to be able to hold down a job. I'm autistic, and am perfectly capable of holding down a job, even working as a reporter. That said I'm not even considering getting married or having children.