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Woah! Still no chapter! I was so looking forward to going back home and reading it!.. Ssamba, I pray for you and hope you're well! 행운을 빌어 요!
I wonder what is the coming chapter going to be about? I guess we still need a closure between No-rae and Sung-pyo. Like not in a flashback, but in the "now" time. Perhaps he'll ask No-rae if she would mind starting from scratch. It would be sweet if she replies "Sorry, I have somebody I'm in love with now! A very precious person." And then runs away and jump-hugs Seol-a, who's waiting No-rae at the college gates to go for a date.
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There are supposedly two more Seol-a's brothers. And a possible romance between the third one and Kkyeong.
And speaking about Christmas, I imagined either No-rae or Ji-hwan in Santa's costume. The former would be enormously cute and fluffy. The latter would be like a grumpy cat.
By the way, I'm a little lost, what's the current month in FF?
There's one thing I can't quite grasp about j dramas. Is it that the Japanese people and culture are so different or is it merely poor acting and directing?
The girl wakes up and figures out she's not living alone with her father anymore. Wtf! Were those other two teleported overnight or something? Why weren't they properly introduced to each other?
And then that kiss scene that came out of nowhere. I mean, OK, there was that instagram pic foreshadowing, and Sayuri portrayed disappointed that her new sister seemed to be dating a guy. But still, despite being so constrained, that sis forced herself into the room and kissed Sayuri lol. I just don't get it.
Anyway, sorry for the rant, I guess I should avoid this topic for everyone's good. And this show's probably still better than nothing.
thatanon, thank you so much for the amazingly quick typesetting! The quality's actually really good!
Even her speech bubble is blushing. :>
I've been entertaining the idea that she didn't just blush, but also got w... well, let's say she's got wild
Who is ready to place bets when the confession will be a by whom?
I'm betting they could kiss any chapter from now on the spur of the moment. If not for the people around in the sauna, the mood was almost there. Next time they happen to be alone and either of them provokes the other in a similar fashion, they could just find themselves looking into each others eyes, smiling, getting closer, and... BANG, zombie troopers fall from the Australian army airplane.
@NicLarkin
awesome user pic! LOL
EDIT:
What I really loved about the chapter is No-rae's revenge to Seol-a for chapter 43, when Seol-a slept on her shoulders and No-rae tried to avoid it by saying it's uncomfortable. LOL, now's Seol-a's turn to figure out how comfortable it is kekeke
So yeah, a several parallels in one chapter. Ssamba's awesome. But who doubted?
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Considering how same sex relationship is treated in korea, a suffering might be on the way,
They will run to Australia :P
And die in a car accident
In a flashback
While watching a movie set in Australia.
A movie about zombies, of course
You guys have failed me
lolI guess thats all for Fluttering Feelings
Im done with the story then
Its been a long journey guys
Thanks for the memory
See you on the other story-return to the cave waiting c$trus update-
Not so fast, dorky girl!
grabs her with both hands around the waist from behind (see the chapter 35 for reference)
Of course it's possible that I'm just selfish.
But I'd be crazy to let you leave us for sh$trus like that.
Halmoni, thank you so much for the translation!
Considering how same sex relationship is treated in korea, a suffering might be on the way,
They will run to Australia :P
And die in a car accident
In a flashback
While watching a movie set in Australia.
A movie about zombies, of course
Ssamba and ieeheh, you certainly made my day today! Thank you so much xDDDD
takachi
LOL, and somebody needs to teach me how to roll a star wars towel on one's head xD
at your service
Or
OMG! LOL! That was easy!! Be prepared, facebook!!!
Wow, what a chapter!! Impossible to keep the full fangirling mode off, haha!
Hard to draw any conclusions out of the flashback without a translation, but from the pics it looked almost like Sung-pyo couldn't feel himself a man next to No-rae, and that troubled him a lot. Perhaps, he wanted to always stay strong in front of her and didn't want No-rae to see his weak sides.
And seeing No-rae crying was honestly a real cringe. Seol-a, don't be so embarrassed, pat her head at least, No-rae really needs a hug form you now.
LOL, and somebody needs to teach me how to roll a star wars towel on one's head xD
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Wow, so that's how it was. It's great that it goes in line with all of the posted speculation yet remains unique. Ssamba is such a great writer! And oh my god, that No-rae with a guitar!!! How sexy she is!! I like her with shorter hair more though. But nevertheless, she's just gorgeous with the instrument - suits her character so much. I wonder what kind of music does she listens to. She's quite often portrayed with headphones.
Alice is a girl to die for. Morishima-sensei, that was an absolutely fantastic depiction of the relationship. The characters are just like WOW. The only disturbing thing is that it feels too good to be true...
I miss the sexy black bars here xD
Anyway, glad to see the manhwa's back to steady progress. I think Qui Tong is scared her feelings are getting real development. She's confused and doesn't know hot to face them. She probably never took them seriously, writing off as whatever she thought was appropriate. But it's good that Sun Jing said what she said, otherwise Qui Tong would really start avoiding her. I think Qui Tong asking for time to think it through while keeping their friendship alive would be the healthiest solution.
I don't think I have any expectations from the coming extra chapter. It'd be great if it explains who texted both girls in the last chapter. The secret hope is it's Saki who writes how great a couple they have been and how dumb they are to break it.
Another hard-shipping hope is the chapter ending with Keiko sending Ran a bouquet of real flowers. Given all the symbolism, that would be equal to the happy ending despite it being so subtext.
But wait, wait. As I said, I have no expectations from the epilogue. None! I want to believe.
Blackkitty:
I can't convince myself that No-Rae really loved Sung-Pyo.
Maybe she was a different person back then.
As in... maybe she Sung a different tune.
:>
Australia is a scary place then... LOL
Right now I'm just curious what horrible thing he did that broke all her hope and trust.
I wonder if he actually did though. Seol-a's question then comes to mind: why are they friendly now? Although... I guess I had something similar... Someone betrayed me (not romantically though) and I was really, really pissed at that person, and our friendship was broken. And a year later we accidentally met again and had a great chat together. I don't think we'll ever be so close though.
But if that's how it is... booh... then I guess there was a reason to break up besides the military. Hard to imagine cheating considering how much they were into each other. But could be something completely irrelevant to romance. That could probably indeed resolve the puzzle...
LOL, I think I'm writing too much xD I'll never learn to think first then write a short summary, I guess...
Personally I don't think that two similar people can never be romantically compatible. Sometimes if two people are too different they cannot find common ground and connect.
Well, they do understand each other very well, because they are similar. And I don't think this prevents from romance. They might as well had kids and lived together for the rest of their lives. What I'm saying is that the quality of romance differs when the other side gives you something you're incapable of doing. Then the other side, through a romantic bond, complements you as a human being, which in itself strengthens the bond. And naturally, a complementing personality is different from a same personality and is different from an opposing personality. All three are valid, of course. And romance may very well arise between all of them too, especially if it's also sexually-driven. The quality and longevity of romance will however likely differ. There are numerous theories about it based on Jung's ideas btw, but I would really not like to open this Pandora's box here, especially considering that none of those theories are even provable/testable.
So in fact I'm just trying to explain myself how could two creatures, loving each other from the bottom of their hearts suddenly break up.
Sung-Pyo seemed to really like No-Rae right from the start, and judging by Ssamba's writing style, she is probably not lying about it.
No-Rae on the other hand seemed like she was really over him now that they met again.
So...what if she decided to go out with him because he had simply offered first? Not that she didn't like him, but she decided to go with the flow too, even if she had a very small doubt about it. And maybe he promised her that he would always be by her side etc and then he broke them promise and left for the military.
Just like how Ji-hwan told her that he could make her love him
Point is, then it contradicts Ssamba's No-rae's own words from the last chapter:
Text: And yet, it didn't take long for us to figure it out.
Text: Because we both felt it from the bottom of our hearts.
Text: How much we both
Text: Liked each other.
Before the chapter 51's been released, the idea of simply going with the flow was the one I myself found the most plausible. But after reading words as quoted above, it's very hard to swallow that either of them simply went with the flow. It's served as a very conscious decision, at least from No-rae's side. This leaves me with the explanation that they underestimated their own feelings, being young and inexperienced, meaning that the romance they had was relatively shallow.
Btw that part with drunk No-Rae totally reminded me of when Seol-A got drunk too
Lol, it somehow reminded me of Ran... Ah, I should go and do some stretching now...
Stop torturing yourself then. No one's forcing you to read FF.
lol, that will never work, a typical Ikari Shinji personality enjoys suffering despite all the cries
Regardless, halmoni, thank you so much for the translation!
I don't think No-rae was ever concerned about her sexuality. Seol-a had a lot more inner monologue dealing with her sexuality, although it wasn't very detailed (i.e. "I must be strange for feeling like this blah blah"). I don't feel like sexuality will play a big role in FF anyways, it seems more like "I like No-rae/Seol-a for who she is", not "Ayy I liek gurlz".
I think she did, at least in chapter 32, when she tried to ask her oppa an advice. Remember that story about the popular path and the non-existent one? I interpreted that dialogue as No-rae asking her brother if it's OK to have gay feelings. And it'd thus be a bit strange if the topic is not covered at all, IMO. It's kinda the realistic part of the two girls going out - dealing with society, coming out, etc. But now that I wrote it, perhaps, you're right, because considering the current pace, it'd probably be another manhwa, while FF might simply focus on the two getting together. Besides, there's probably the Comico's editorial department which may set the boundaries too tight, especially considering how popular the story is.
Who understand yuri community, if there is a short manga, so well written and portraying a very cute relationship between 2 girls/woman, they want more, but if there is more, they want it to get to the point.......
Well, in the end, I guess FF it not form all trastes, overall impatients ones, form them this is almost like torture
Isn't it quite logical? When there are two fractions of society with opposing interests, when one is satisfied, the other's in agony and vice versa.
Now, coming back to the story, I'm really confused. If the two did like each other so much, I don't get it, how could the military break them apart so easily? Is it then being so similar to each other what eventually destroyed them as a couple? Was each one of them too much of a goofball to express their feelings properly and never opened to each other entirely? Like they were always too nice to each other that it started to look fake? So far it's the only reasonable explanation I can think of. Like it felt too good to be true and they started to think they should break up to test the reality of their feelings and the military was just a good excuse for that? Really, it feels like they didn't really love each other, even though they thought they did. I guess they kinda lacked duality in the other partner. They were giving their all, but nevertheless they never received what they expected, because their personalities didn't complement each other. They were both the same left parts of the same figure, seeking for the missing right part. If so, Seol-a should be a good partner for Sung-pyo too! Hah, that'd be a twist!
Very nice analysis takachi. Makes perfect sense! Although what was confusing to me was that Sung-Pyo seemed to be genuinly in love with No-Rae. But of course appearences can be deceiving, and although he could like her, he might not take it so seriously. Besides, they were quite young and this is very common. But I wonder what kind of history was Hye-Kyung hiding to Seol-A about their past. It sounded like it was something that needed to be hidden. So something else might have happened as well besides their break up.
Meh, just because it makes sense, doesn't mean it's correct xD
Regarding the story behind the two, I thought that Hye-kyung actually voiced it already after showing that "I wanna tell her" face expression, i.e. the story how Sung-pyo called Hye-kyung after No-rae had left to Australia. But again this was just a theory of mine, which I can't really support with too many factual data, cause we simply don't seem to have enough of it atm.
Anyway, the new chapter's out. Looks like Sung-pyo did fall for No-rae at first sight. Still can't judge how deep this feeling is though. It kinda almost breaks my theory. Perhaps he didn't feel enough response from No-rae which made his feelings confused? And perhaps she decided to try it out with him but in the end, despite all his love, she couldn't really properly respond to it? So when the time came for the military he thought that it'd hurt her less to break up? And the reason why she felt hurt was actually because she couldn't fall in love with a guy who cared so much about her and made him feel hurt? Perhaps, this is already the moment when she started thinking about her sexuality, whether consciously or unconsciously? Anyway, let's wait for the translation for now.
Concerning chapter 50, I'm surprised Seola isn't aware of her feelings for Norae, despite her actions/reactions.
But she totally is.
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Do you mind me asking, how exactly does being an aromantic lesbian work? I just find it hard to imagine, any gay gal I know just seems to be into relationships. Not that they don't think about sex or don't have sex with their partners, but I can't imagine any of the gay girls I know practicing casual sex.
Do you mind me asking, how many gay gals do you know who seems to be into relationships?
Excited? Count me in! I've been thinking about the whole story over the week.
No-rae said that her trust was broken - that alone really gave me a lot of food for thought. What trust was she talking about? Trust in true love between her and Sung-pyo? Or trust in one's abilities to make another one fall in love with them?
Let's see. What facts do we have?
1. No-rae was deeply hurt after a break-up. Supposedly for letting somebody really close to her and getting betrayed/heart broken. To the point that she needed to change the environment and run away to Australia. And to the point that she again tried to run away when she realised she was falling for Seol-a. It is not certain though if she ran away from Seol-a, or from accepting her own sexuality, or from both? The sexuality part seemed to be solved at least, although I think it's both (even if not entirely) because otherwise she'd be unable to stay close to Seol-a without getting hurt a lot.
2. From chapter 49 it seems No-rae left to Australia even before Sung-Pyo left to the military, so relatively quickly. Unless he had some kind of holiday when he returned for a day or so.
3. According to Seol-a's judgement, Sung-pyo is No-rae's carbon copy. But that's Seol-a's estimation. Not a fact.
4. Sung-pyo did realise he's himself hurt by the break-up.
5. No-rae and Sung-pyo are friendly to each other now.
So my current hypothesis is as follows. Sung-pyo realised that he really fell in love with No-rae too late in the game, when it had already been over. Till the very break-up, he had merely been going with the flow, spending time with No-rae for fun and joy, but had never taken the relationship seriously. And he likely thought No-rae was the same. So when the time came for the military, he simply wanted to set her free, I think. He didn't expect both to get so hurt by doing that. He probably thought they were just casually having fun together, messing up with each other, nothing deep or serious, while in the eyes of everybody else they acted as a perfect couple. Whether it was No-rae's seemingly air-headed attitude that made him believe so or his own, doesn't actually matter much. Fact is, despite them being similar, No-rae didn't see that coming at all and got hurt really badly. So there was no fight or anything else big that would prevent them from staying friends. I think Sung-pyo casually said something like, 'Hey, No-rae, I'm going to the military soon/next week/month. Shall we break up? Cause I want you to enjoy life even though I'm not around'. Or a similar kind of bull$h!t. No-rae made sure to casually consent as if it was nothing. But once she got home, she felt really depressed. And then left to Australia within a couple of days. Perhaps even her family or friends advised her to do so.
Some conclusions I made for myself from this theory.
No-rae doesn't love Sung-pyo anymore, romantically at least. He's past. Now she's in love with Seol-a. Seol-a also appears sexually attractive to her. So I don't expect No-rae and Sung-pyo to get together. What I do expect though is that their friendship, which others may easily mistake for romance, will make Seol-a very, very jealous. This should help No-rae to get some clues about Seol-a's feelings for her. Luckily for us, she's already got some hints in chapter 50, "This must be my imagination, right?"
That's why I kinda start to think that neither of the girls will actually confess, they'll simply understand their feelings without any words at some point. And then perhaps, when the moment's right, a sweet kiss will confirm it, hehehe.
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Hmm.. interesting... so far we all believed No-rae really loved Sung-Pyo a lot but having this chapter in mind... I wonder if she actually really did. Could it be that she just went with the flow? Like, "Yeah, he's a nice tall guy, he seems to love me, so I should be fine" kind of thing? Like perhaps she was strongly convinced that she'll definitely fall in love with him? And could it be that she was crushed when they parted ways not because they broke up but because she realised her calm dream world where she's falling in love with a nice guy and everything's fine suddenly got destroyed?
I guess I'm just seeing things and trying to adjust the story to my liking, but I don't know, somehow those last pages felt fishy. It felt like No-rae didn't really love her ex, but got kissed and went for it, in a tolerant, no fighting way how her brother described in chapter 34. Could it be that Seol-a is really the first one whom No-rae sincerely loves?As much as I'd love it to be true, I don't think so. I think Norae did honestly like him a lot, but he did something that broke her trust as well.
Yes. Between norae and her ex boyfriend must have happened something big to break, seemed both genuinely in love.
That image, if I remember correctly, is from the chapter 25, isn't it? The full quote is a bit different though:
Ji-hwan: And I'm confident I can make you love me too.
No-rae: ...Really?
No-rae: Can you really do that?
Ji-hwan: ....
No-rae: Promises shouldn't be taken lightly. No matter how small it is, there's no promise that I don't take seriously. Because you can never predict human nature.
No-rae: A feeling that you're going to fall in love...I once believed in those feelings too.
No-rae: I had an exceptionally strong feeling.
No-rae: But...it all ridiculously crumbled in one moment. My feelings, my trust.
So I thought that I may have misinterpreted everything myself in the past and what No-rae actually said in chapter 25 was that she thought she could fall in love with her ex, but she couldn't.
Anyway, scratch all that because after reading the chapter scanlated I realised I misjudged the flashback scene and they actually did look quite lovey-dovey there. At first I thought that was their first kiss or something, but now I realise it's just been one of the many evenings spent together.
So speaking about that quote from the chapter 25, could it be that No-rae blames herself for being unable to make Sung-Pyo fall in love with her? Could it be that she believes that she's never put enough effort to make her own feelings reach the other person in all their shining? If that's the case and Seol-a really has changed No-rae a bit, we may actually see No-rae... confessing? Well, that's probably too much to ask for, but she may make some steps towards that, especially if Seol-a keeps on pestering her with questions about the ex.
Hmm.. interesting... so far we all believed No-rae really loved Sung-Pyo a lot but having this chapter in mind... I wonder if she actually really did. Could it be that she just went with the flow? Like, "Yeah, he's a nice tall guy, he seems to love me, so I should be fine" kind of thing? Like perhaps she was strongly convinced that she'll definitely fall in love with him? And could it be that she was crushed when they parted ways not because they broke up but because she realised her calm dream world where she's falling in love with a nice guy and everything's fine suddenly got destroyed?
I guess I'm just seeing things and trying to adjust the story to my liking, but I don't know, somehow those last pages felt fishy. It felt like No-rae didn't really love her ex, but got kissed and went for it, in a tolerant, no fighting way how her brother described in chapter 34. Could it be that Seol-a is really the first one whom No-rae sincerely loves?
No-rae lost in thought is too gorgeous. Seol-a will by no means be able to give up on that beauty.
OT: hey everyone, been away for some time - life's got me T__T And reading what Ssamba has recently went through, I just wanna say her, if she ever reads this post, that her work is absolutely the best yuri story out there! It's this good. And you can so tell, she's pouring herself into it, week after week, day after day. That's why it's this awesome! Dear Ssamba, please, don't forget to take care of yourself even if we have to wait a bit. Your well-being is the most important. Huuuuuug!!!
hahahaha, that was brilliant. Stretch is definitely a masterpiece of a yuri genre. It's been an amazing trip. And what I love about it, I'll keep rereading it once in a while discovering more and more hints of whatever ending I myself want. And Shou obviously ran out of exercises to depict.
And the best part about the ending, I'm glad that Keiko's going to see and accept her mother.
PS
Thanks to everybody for the fantastic discussions in this thread. You guys and our emotions are what actually made the manga priceless. I'll definitely miss that experience. And thanks to Shou of course for the awesome trollobait ride.
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