I was kidding about the leg humping Sakurako! This mad woman is getting delirious from over-exposure to her crack (nickname "Mist"). And she thinks getting kicked by bare foot is a reward. Kasumi has broken her down completely by now.

To think Seri and Shouko would develope almost entirely off-screen, well I'm happy for them regardless.

So Moka is the type who is more attracted to someone the more they resist. Ruri-chan sure got her work cut out for her.

^Gogogogogogo~

^That's the appeal for the jokes and plot. Not for the romance aspect. Heck there are extensive parts of the episodes where this is just a standard idol anime. Where they look alive and just have normal idol stuff going on. While we are at it, the show doesn't take it's own premise very seriously either, they are barely like most zombies in fiction (reminds me more of 'Kore wa zombie desu ka?'). Except for the occasional thing that would kill a normal person, they might as well be wearing zombie make-up.

Depends on whether you insist on your abnormal opinion.

Those things are not connected. Cute, though.

As David Bowie would call it: She had a sexual awakening.

Kempt hair and a normal uniform are all it takes for this delinquent to turn into a proper student. You can't handle that proper image lol

I also take issue with the word "abnormal". In the context of LGBT, it's a strongly negative word.

Urgh. I didn't use it in context of her sexual orientation though. Can we please not have this "heteronormativity" conversation again?

BugDevil, you combined a post from me and one from random—the “one entirely practical difference” one is random’s. So yes, I absolutely do recognize my own post.

Nobody is taking “offense” at the word “broken,” but as your latest post makes clear, you use words in some idiosyncratic ways, and believe it or not, I am trying to understand what you’re trying to say.

“Broken” has a strong negative connotation, as does “abnormal.” You seem to be arguing that the characters are not comparable because they are different in kind, where one character is “normal” (Kase) and the other is not (Nikaidou), rather than different in the degree of their presentation.

I think if the scenes in Kase-san were drawn with an equal number of hearts floating around and “ba-dumps” all over the place and sweat beads on the thirsty lesbians with no change in the actual behavior, there would be very little difference at all between the two characters.

I'm sorry, is this the first time someone has quoted two posts around you? Yes, I quoted both of you, but I addressed you seperately... I'm having genuine trouble seeing your issue. You even made me double check and all, but nope, nothing unusual. I asked if you recognize your own post, because if you do, why does it bother you that I also quoted someone else afterwards? I didn't mix your quotes or anything. I didn't even mix my replies. My alternatives are limited to quoting your names or double posting. Pick your poison.

Certainly, you can give it a negative connotation. But just like people say "Wow, that's crazy" and don't literally mean someone's crazy (remember that little hoot?), this was not meant to disparage the character. They are simply different to that degree. I expressed that more strongly than you two apparently were comfortable with, so my bad.

Yes, if you completely changed the way she acted (making her sweat intensely) and exaggerated her emotions (more heart pounding and hearts) you'd get to the same state as Nikaido. Who would have thought?

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Blastaar
Try not to respond to two different people simultaneously please, or at least make clear who you’re quoting when.

It’s the “broken” description that has yet to make sense; the rest of the “unfitting” business is your usual “everyone else is simply wrong because I get to declare what ‘facts’ are” argument.

(You’re right that that Kase and Yamada have had sex, which is a fact; random is correct that Yamada nevertheless still acts like she’s barely aware of what sex is. And any further comments specific only to that story need to go in another forum thread.)

Pardon? Can you not recognize you own post? If it gives you that much trouble I suppose I can put your name into it next time.

Sheesh. You're still in a bad mood, huh? You really don't like when people use colloquial speech...
By broken I was simply refering to her abnormal actions and attitude. It's just a side-effect of the comedy. Don't take it so seriously.
I don't tend to use that kind of argument, but suit yourself (lol). They are not on the same level so it is unfitting to compare them for me. If you disagree that's fine, but you were the one who asked me to clarify here.

Nya-chan
I dissent about Nikaidou being "broken". It's expressed in a more exaggerated way (she's literally drooling in her fantasies), because this is a comedy, but it doesn't warrant labeling her as "broken".

We don't get to peek into Kase-san's fantasies, because the author's way to depict her horniness is glances at Yamada's legs, boobs or lips, not drooling, but the level is the same: healthy sex drive.

You people sure take offense to the weirdest of things. Fine, she isn't broken. It's still abnormal. I would say the same thing of for example, characters in "Kaguya-sama wants to be confessed to". Those are some broken amoral lovable idiots.

Ah, in other words you just made an assumption. I already made my case for why they are not the same, so I don't need to repeat it.

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An unfortunate(?) side-effect of the medium/genre, but that doesn't change the facts. Nikaidou has an exaggerated personality, but that is her personality nontheless. I have seen many 4koma with this page count that manage more subdued and subtle interactions anyway.
I like this manga the way it is.

The comparison is simply unfitting. There is also nothing wrong with being way hornier than Kase-san. It's not a hard thing to accomplish honestly. The community tends to really play it up too much.

I have no idea what you’re trying to communicate here, especially in your last paragraph. As I understand it, you’re OK with the story and the character’s behavior as it is, but the character is “broken,” with behavior “beyond the normal spectrum,” and the comparison with Kase-san is “undue” and “unfitting.”

As others have said, the couples dynamic in the two stories is basically parallel, with one very avid partner paired with a willing but sweetly naive one. The major difference is that this story is more of an over-the-top goofy farce as opposed to the gentler comedy of the other one, with an accompanying difference in focus and tone.

Kase’s superhero jump to save Yamada from the predatory boys at the cultural festival is very much a lower-key version of Nikaidou’s heroic interventions in this one. Sure, the stories are different, as the fact that Kase’s jump was revised out of the collected volume reinforces even more. But where’s the violation (as suggested by your negative language) in seeing how they’re parallel?

I am not a fan of exaggerating or construing a character's traits or personality for the sake of a comparison that is unfitting. That is my issue. In their respective stories both types of characters are completely fine, they are just not on the same level in the one aspect that was compared. I don't see how I didn't make that clear yet.

The focus and tone of a story influence the characters personalities, so you are just underlining my point here. Nobody in the Kase-san universe is as 'broken' as Nikaidou. Nobody is as exaggerated.

Hmm... This has gotten almost completely off topic by now. My original reply was only intended to point out that Kase-san is by far not as much of a horndog, thus the comparison is meaningless for what they were discussing. Saying "Everyone was okay with Kase-san being this horny" is simply wrong, because she isn't.

One entirely practical difference in-universe(s) is also that Tadokoro gave Nikaidou a reasonably explicit greenlight back in the infirmary and only the nurse's surprising but inevitable return stopped them from doing the deed right then and there, so they both know the other is very much up to it if the mood is right.
That's not going to help Nikaidou's mind stay outta the gutter one bit...

Poor Kase is meanwhile still getting epically blueballed by Yamada who being part of the plant kingdom seems to be only very vaguely aware of carnal relationships even being a thing, in theory.

Excuse me, have you finished Kase-san? Because in the final chapters they actually did "it". Yamada is completely aware, her sex drive is just way lower.

^Calm your udders. It's not morally wrong. I am just not into corpses. Zombies are way more messy than most other undead (eg vampires). Zombification also makes a lot of the things displayed impossible (blushing for one), so it's a headache easily avoided by just saying they are alive.

Somehow it looks more like licking to me.

Dual Kabedon tag?

That's a crime! At least take her out to dinner first.

I have made the internal rule for myself that whenever they appear in their "human" form its an alternate reality where they are alive. Makes life waaaay easier.

@Midnightgunner Yang glances at Blake
"What do you even see in her?!" - Very angry ex-boyfriend

That rainbow trajectory means they will make intimate contact with the ground soon.

Sakurako was not ready. Just wait until Hima finds out about this.

The power of the direct approach is unbeatable.

I like them to be on eye-level personally.

Classic followup~

Could it be? Does Nemo have actual good match ups against girls other than Tomoko? Is she not doomed to always lose?!

The fact that her life doesn't happen in the confines of circa four pages per chapter might of be relevant. Nikaidou is, by necessity of the medium, much more condensed.
Hell.
The entire story is.

An unfortunate(?) side-effect of the medium/genre, but that doesn't change the facts. Nikaidou has an exaggerated personality, but that is her personality nontheless. I have seen many 4koma with this page count that manage more subdued and subtle interactions anyway.
I like this manga the way it is.

The comparison is simply unfitting. There is also nothing wrong with being way hornier than Kase-san. It's not a hard thing to accomplish honestly. The community tends to really play it up too much.

Even though it's more subtly shown, I'm convinced that Kase-san is as much of a horn-dog than Nikaidou.

Well count me unconvinced then. There is a very obvious gap in desire between those two characters. Of course it's played up for comedy here, but that in itself is already proof enough that it's beyond the normal spectrum. Kase-san is a hormone filled teenager, but she can actually think of other things while her girlfriend is with her and doesn't interpret any action as a sexual advance.

Personally, I was in it for the painful drama. Oh well, I guess I don't have the patience for this kind of nuance. I only got through maybe half the stories in Kiss and White Lily for My Dearest Girl.

My deepest condolences.