During the hiatus everyone wondered how Shaw and Root would act once they were reunited, if one of them would try to keep her distance or if they would immediately jump each other. In the end they just dropped all pretense that whatever was going on between them could stay casual. I expected them to be pretty much the same as before with the occasional subtle acknowledgement of feelings, so I was surprised to see in the glimpses we got that they were just so... warm with each other. I think this season changed many headcanons about their relationship. And it was a pleasant (if amusing) surprise to learn in the simulation episode that Shaw was actually fond of Root's ridiculous flirting.

Well, I imagine, they would go back to the status quo if Shaw wasn't gone for so long and she wasn't subjected to all those simulations, but was in a coma or something. 6741 simulation as well, I imagine it got old 5000 simulations ago for subtlety xD

I also like how they changed their romantic dynamic, not that it wasn't something different to see Root accepting whatever Shaw would give her in a fanfic, but in the end, it's kind of all the same (and yes, I know the typical couples are the same thing over and over, but when something is new and generally not expectant of, when you get too much of it, it loses its charm). Again, I doubt they would be able to go there without people screaming OOC, if the time she was missing didn't happen. The only sad thing about it is that we didn't get to see them together that much (and of course Root dying, but I think that's a given).

Thanks for the recs :] Will check them out soon, right now I'm on a bit of an Overwatch binge of Pharmercy and Widowtracer.

Anyway.

Can't add much to what you guys have already said xD Agree with a lot of the stuff, and I'll have to find time to re-watch it again (and not only the episodes that are my favorites, cause I watch them every few weeks or so).

As far as I remember from a few Comic-con-esque youtube videos with the cast and director/writer the scene wasn't supposed to be sexual, but how it was played and the chemistry is why they took it in that direction. Could've been from their first scene that they decided to write them like they have.

I do think Gen got it right with how Shaw's feelings are muted/easily mutable, and that's why she 'doesn't do relationships' (cause she can't make herself care for someone romantically), but 9 months being tortured and having simulations of Root, the button for the volume+ on her feelings towards her would be pressed regardless of how she is I think xD You can only take so much thinking about a person after all.

Shame it was a bad end in the second part.

Food truck AU? Haven't seen that one. I'm waiting for the Harry Potter AU to continue xD (hic ibi dracones) Any other recommendations? From whenever, not only recent ones. I've uploaded my downloaded ones so if you want you can skim for titles that you haven't read.

The thing with Harold is, if it was more spread out, I could maybe accept it, which could also lead to Root not dying in that manner. We really don't know what would've happened if it wasn't cancelled and they had some more time to contemplate the script.

I am in the camp that Root is more or less the Machine, considering how they played it out after her death. I thought it was gonna be only her voice, but she got her mannerisms and everything so it's more of a rebirth than anything. Ascension perhaps? Also, android body. It's sci-fi as it is xD

The long haired one is pretty obviously into her friend, and is upset that she doesn't have a chance with her but has to go along with this charade anyway. The other is revealed to have been using the glasses as a ruse to get a date with the girl she likes who she thought was straight. So pretty clear it's requited.

Sooo, how would you explain in page 4 when the long-haired one sees her 'perfect boyfriend'? I personally think she wasn't interested in her friend until page 7 or if she was interested in her before that, that was the moment when it actually clicked for her. And as the last page suggests, pigtails was in love with the long-haired one all along.

Nah, you didn't kill it xD I just agree with a lot of things, but at the same time, things are what they are. Still slightly pissy that Harold got his happy ending, but yeah.

Most of what you've said though I think boils down to them having to cram so much in 13 episodes.

I don't read meta, mostly because I won't stop and I don't need to go down the rabbit hole at this point xD I'm also a bit sad that my favorite authors haven't written any new fics, which I'm guessing is because they gave up or something.

It's page number 2? Where's page 1? xD

Well, just finished season 3, and I gotta say. I don't want Cosima to be with Delphine. At first I thought Delphine was gonna do something, but then I saw how Cosima handled their 'relationship' and I gotta say, for how smart Cosima is, she is really, really stupid. I know that Delphine is alive, but at this point, I think there's a really big chance that they've converted her to Neolutionism and the last season will deal with that. Haven't seen season 4 yet, but that's what I think so far. Yeah, Shay is cute and all, but, I wouldn't be surprised if she was a neolutionite. But yeah, Cosima didn't seem to me like she loved/s Delphine at all, but what do I know, I'm an 'outsider' so to speak xD

And I'm not completeIy sure but I think science right now thinks that sexual orientation is caused by a mix of genetic, hormonal and enviromental influences. So maybe everything still makes scientific sense.

Well, now that they showed us the original I guess they have a loophole there with her 'absorbing' her twin and who knows, maybe she isn't straight xD It was just something that bugged me I guess, what with them saying over and over that they're genetically identical and then Cosima.

Otherwise, the best part of the plot for me was Alison's side again, which is what I stayed for honestly. And Helena, the other stuff bores me and Cosima is an idiot so yeah xD

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Finished season 2, they do love to have Maslany kiss people don't they? xD The Helena bit At least Sarah wasn't as boner-hungry as last season though of course, she jumped Cal. Not that I didn't expect it xD And naturally Siobhan. The Cosima/Delphine moments are kinda off? To me at least. I don't know why. But yeah, fun enough for now.

Edit: Now that I think about it, with them being genetically identical, wouldn't it be impossible for Cosima to be a lesbian? Did the lesbian/gay gene/whatever get disproven or something? Or am I mistaking it with something else entirely?

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I rewatched the 12th episode again before watching the final episode. And I guess what irked me the most was the pacing. Not in the sense that it was distracting or such. It's just you could easily imagine how a longer season would've turned the whole "What if Finch had never created the Machine?"-bit into an entire episode. Those concept-episodes were always a highlight and I really think that there was more to get out of that idea story-wise than what that episode offered.

Yeah, that's why I said that I like and hate at the same time that it's not a full season. On the one hand, it's really good for the plot, in that it feels more dynamic, on the other hand, one of the most important/well executed things in this show suffered for it - exploring characters, and what drives them to do what they did.

What I didn't like was how the episode used that tacky "Nobody truly dies alone - when someone remembers them."-line to explain how the Machine "cracked the code" of humanity. Well, and the Machine naturally won because Samaritan was a total debbie-downer.

Gotta have some cheesiness no? xD

Most of that first season wasn't that impressive.

I agree, but that was more due to the writers playing it a little safe and showing as much of the 'lore' as it is of the world before they went whole-heartedly in the swing of things. I've always liked the flashbacks they showed for the characters. I think I've mentioned this before, but 1x04 is still one of my favorite episodes, just for the final scene and how it leaves it open-ended.

Well, that's the end I guess. I would've been mighty pissed if it was only Root who died, but at least John died as well xD

Sadly, Finch got his happy ending despite everything, so I'm a bit irked about that. I would've been content if it was only Lionel or Lionel and Shaw (and Bear) the only ones alive, but yeah. I am happy that the Machine chose to contact Shaw though (and the first words to her will always be 'Hello, sweetie.' to me) and that she was also happy to hear from her xD Fanfic authors are gonna have a blast with that.

I'll let it settle before I write anything more, but yeah. Happy-ish with the ending, not so happy with Finch getting his happily ever after.

Well, started watching it and finished season 1. Pretty good, Alison's side for some reason was very funny to me. Alison and Felix though, they make a pretty cool pair xD Cosima and Delphine are pretty cute, though Delphine 'fell' for her awfully quickly. But, I'm probably too used to developing pairs. Did all of them have to be so horny though xD

Though it doesn't make sense for them to write out their patent in their sequence, that was too convenient a reason for them not to sign the 'contract'.

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Huh, didn't see the /s xD Oh well. C'est la vie

Oh, also, Always Human first season is over. Now gotta wait for 2 months till a new chapter xD I still want to be able to download it and read it whenever, but doesn't seem like there will be a way to download it. Unless it gets published on paperback.

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Hmm, is there any end in sight for Orphan Black? Like you can for sure say 'next season is the last' or something like that? Also, what's the plot? Clones/memory erasing and planting new memories/multiple personalities?

Considering picking it up, cause I'm bored.

@risingstar3110 on the contrary, he/she was hoping for what you said to be normal as well and not for them to be killed off, and for the romance you described to be normal like het-romances some day.

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How much is a bit? Or did you watch the ep where they (finally) hookup?

Watched till episode 9. Wynonna with her stuff with Doc and the Dolls stuff is so boring that I can't bring myself to watch anymore. Especially after Doc and Wynonna slept together, she was stammering like a schoolgirl, and she's supposed to have slept with a lot of people? Yeah, no.

The hell happened with OUaT? I'm seeing quite a few Regina/Emma/Evil Queen (threesome) fics popping up xD Something to do with the plot or just because?

Well, you guys would know xD I don't know how they've developed the characters so. Just saying, don't get too optimistic in case they don't get their happy ending ;)

I watched a bit of Wynonna Earp, and there are barely any interactions between Waverly and Nicole. Less than 10, I think Wynonna talked more with Nicole that one time behind the desk than Waverly xD But yeah, very underwhelming, their first interaction is very cute though. It's also the first relationship for Waverly that isn't bad, so I can't see them be together until the end, not saying one of them will die, but they'll break-up at some point.

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Just wait until Orphan Black takes your lungs as well xD (Not that I've watched either of them, but I don't expect a happy ending in Orphan Black, based on what it is about)

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Why should it be some big grand thing? They've always worked from the shadows. The Machine has always been the good guy and most of the technical stuff in the show is real or at least based on real stuff. I think there was a tumblr post somewhere or at least some kind of thing that showed everything that was referenced in the show that were real things that only people who know computers would know. Samaritan wouldn't know they would do that since it can't monitor them, and didn't make countermeasures because it thought that they wouldn't do anything to hurt the Machine.

Personally for me, it was kind of expected they'd go this way, instead of all guns blazing and something big happening. It's always been that one person could affect something, and it's continued here as well, with support from other people.

The suffocating scene was a bit dramatic, yes, but I attribute it to Samaritan/Greer and how Greer has affected that ASI, there has always been some dramatic flair to everything they've done, so while they could've just shot him, it's kind of fitting, after all, Finch wouldn't have expected to kill both of them and it serves to show him that no one controls Samaritan, because they thought that Greer had some kind leash on it.

Why would it be convenient? Arthur already was building the ASI, when Finch finished his, so it comes to reason, that if Finch didn't build the Machine, the government would take what Arthur built. The only reason it needed computer code was because the Machine existed and it tried to remove Samaritan or at least, not activate it. Samaritan was gonna be live, no matter if the Machine existed or not. It's also kind of fitting that Root would go to Samaritan's side because the Machine wasn't 'alive' and the team never encountered her.

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That would be a different variation of bury your gays at least... I actially thought Haught was a demon at first.

So anything to show for sure that she isn't one? I mean, I'll get to watching it eventually either way, but I'm curious, and I can't really go on a binge just to see at this point in time.

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Haven't been watching Wynonna Earp, but I'm considering starting it. Read a few fics and an idea of one of them seems like an inevitability xD That is that Nicole could possibly a revenant. Wouldn't that be funny xD

Yaaay, the officially unofficial yuri couple of Tekken xD Lili is so graceful to play as though.

That was a really weird Nozomi to see xD It was like she swallowed a Nico pill or something.
Oh, also a Comedy tag?

While the fewer episode count for the season made the story more tight, it did a disservice to the overall development of arcs, like you two pointed out the thing with Harold and Shaw's mini-arc-post-Root-death.

I forgot how this episode that the Machine was calling Harold how Root called him "Harry", so I think they were leaning more towards the Machine adopting Root's personality instead of only a voice.

The best thing about the episode though were the Harold/Machine scenes, and when Shaw was talking to the waiter.

Whoo. That was an awesome episode, kind of stretched it a bit (a lot) with the president being their number but whatever. The conversations between Harold and the Machine are illuminating. The way it's gearing up to be, it looks like it boils down to Harold being a number himself and him being a perpetrator. Though the Machine is just letting him do that.

But yeah, kind of heartbreaking to see how much She wanted to save Root. It looks like Root was the bridge between the Machine and Harold in a way that no other person would be able to be, which just adds another layer of complexity towards the whole thing and I absolutely love it. I was glad that Harold acquiesced to the Machine using Root's voice, more so because he misses hearing it, also got just a smidge about Harold about his school years xD

As expected though, Shaw still thinks that it's all a simulation. I don't really get how them being caught by the 'Secret Service on steroids' was telling that it wasn't a simulation, but nevertheless, when she finally got convinced, she's gonna cause some destruction xD Also that little monologue to the waiter was ugh. 'Shaw doesn't feel a thing', yeah, right.

Gotta say though I enjoyed seeing previous numbers, and they set for a possible sequel/spin-off with the final scene. The opening scene at the cemetery was touching and just a bit funny with Fusco's commentary. You can count on him to be a comic relief xD

All in all, a pretty awesome episode, besides the couple of things that were a bit 'eh'.