i wonder if the manga will finish with a polyamory or monogamy? interesting

I'm 99% sure it will go for a poly ending, it's already been pretty clearly set up with hints at her two roommates developing slight feelings for each other as well as MC witnessing her teachers' polyamorous relationship.

Personally not a huge fan of polyamory generally, but it just really fits this story, so I'd be okay with it

"The department's battle couple" is just way too good

This is Arata Iri's biggest flaw. Too big of a cast, not long enough to explore the characters properly, and they just squeeze everything in. I feel like this series is much better than their other works tho. They have a ton of talent but need an editor to force them to focus on a smaller cast.

Funny that you'd say that.If I remember correctly, in Comprehensive Tovarish it was actually the editor that strongly encouraged Arata to include even more characters through the student council.

I agree in principle though, Arata Iri has always been one of those mangaka who seems to be bursting with creativity and whose characters, even if not as well defined as they could be, always have that special something that makes them interesting. Yuu from Tovarish is still my favourite yuri character, period. Getting better at channeling that creativity in a less chaotic way would do a lot for their work.
And tbf, this series certainly is a step in the right direction when compared to earlier works

I'm still not convinced the series is actually ending for good. The last chapter in Japanese just sets up perfectly for the mangaka to eventually pick it back up. Maybe it's just my hopeful delusion, but I think they'll continue the manga some time in the future

Well honestly, if it wasn't because the author and the publisher twitter posted about it ending back then, anyone would still be waiting for more chapters now lol

Pretty much, yeah. But letting it end that way could maybe then be a "backdoor" to restart the series eventually. Maybe the author has other projects on their plate right now or something, dunno

I think part of what makes this manga so depressing is just how realistic the scenario is. Being gay in the Showa era (until 1989) was just incredibly hard. It was still hard after that as well, but things started to slowly get better. Big props to the author to portray that time period, it is difficult and sometimes painful, but I also think it is something that has hardly ever been touched on before, so it's really valuable to have a manga like this.

I love how Tongtong's mom clearly always puts her daughter first, it's such a wholesome relationship they have.
Poor Lin Luxi is kept under strict supervision... Hopefully Tongtong can find a way to get to her and get her feelings across as well. Tbh, Tongtong doesn't exactly strike me as a smooth seductress, so she might stumble quite a lot trying to get the point across

Very interesting setup, sort of creepy vibes as well. I'm curious to see where this will go, but I'm liking things so far

I'm still not convinced the series is actually ending for good. The last chapter in Japanese just sets up perfectly for the mangaka to eventually pick it back up. Maybe it's just my hopeful delusion, but I think they'll continue the manga some time in the future

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I am sort of conflicted. On the one hand, I really want them to become a proper couple and for this story to go full yuri.
On the other hand, there dynamic is perfectly fine as it is, and it would also be kinda cool to have a manga that shows a lesbian woman in a close friendship with another woman without any romance. In most of yuri, strongly liking another girl inevitably means that the two characters have to become a couple or face heartbreak, so just having a super close platonic friendship has its own appeal.

Overall, the revelation that Shima is gay was completely out of the blue for me though, absolutely did not expect that

Talking about food and that very informative credit page...what would japanese people think about milk with rice?, is a very common dessert/beverage here in Mexico, but sometimes i think that seems an odd combination, most of the times i am drinking it along with tamales :)

Milk with rice is heresy to most Japanese. I know one Japanese person who loves it and a number who think it is absolutely disgusting :D

Is there a reason not to arrange the chapters in rough chronological order? That alone would've already made it much easier to understand I think

I really liked the developments in the latest chapters, You really starts to act more human and both her and Hana's characters are defined more clearly. Overall a strongly improving narrative, although I feel like their relative peace right now is still sort of fragile, especially because You seems to be a somewhat emotionally fragile person

While I'd love to see a continuation of this (which obviously won't happen), it's still quite a good one-shot where the relatively open ending at least gave a very good indication of where the story would be heading.
Kinda funny though how Kurozawa is like "I can finally move on from you", only for Haru to then go "the hell you can"

Can you become a couple without noticing it? Science was long puzzled by this question, until observations of two idiot OLs accidentally provided a definite answer: yes, absolutely yes

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While I appreciate Nekozaki starting to figure out her feelings, I feel like the resolution actually is too quick. Considering just how deep and severe her problems seem to be, resolving it all in such a short amount of time would feel kind of cheap to me

Cuteness overload.
Also love how the princes have already gotten completely used to Rei's antics around Claire

Really nice to see Kurumi getting along with Ruri's parents so well. I'm interested to see if the author goes down a "traditional" romance path or tries something different, along the lines of "there are many ways to have a relationship", where they are part family, part friends, part lovers.

Taking Crescent Moon into consideration as well, it really seems like Usui Shio is very interested in the question of what defines a romantic relationship, as her characters seem to be constantly questioning and negotiating their position in the greyzone between friendship and romantic love. I really hope the eventual conclusions of both stories will be good, because in the end, they will sort of need to find a definition that works for them, but that also gives the reader a satisfying end to the story. Pull this off well and it becomes a truly great and thought-provoking story, but it can easily be confusing or feel half-baked too.

In a sense, "classic" romance would be much easier to write, so I'm both excited and a bit scared to see how this goes on. Fingers crossed that she'll continue to deliver quality work

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MC on her best way to become a NEET, kinda reminds me of an early-stage Neeko.

Apologize to Neeko.

I'll second that. There was a time when Neeko had hopes for the future back in elementary school and was nice enough to reach out to Uri, back before being rejected for jobs traumatized her.

As for the main character here, she seems almost comedically hopeless, so while I hope that she ends up getting positive character development, I'm not sure how to give it to her in a way that won't end up being contrived.

I think you all are way to harsh on the MC here. She's grown up in a high pressure environment, being constantly reminded of how her sister is superior to her in any way. For her to become like this is kind of natural, a coping mechanism. In this sense, she and Neeko are alike, they both developed unhealthy coping mechanisms of avoiding failure.
The difference is just the genre of manga they both inhabit, with this MC's trauma played for laughs in a comedy, whilst Neeko is presented in a more sympathetic way.

I honestly think this is an interesting manga. Of course, MC is a creep and pervert, but its not like she's hiding it and with senpai still sticking with her after all she's done at least a certain degree of consent seems to be there. As Yuriribs said, in some ways it's actually a more honest approach to transmigration when compared to the usual possessing of your own younger self.
Also, as far as MC is concerned, her past self is essentially another person. She has no reason to believe that helping her would satisfy her own desire in any way and she really has no reason to treat her as anything but a rival. Of course, all of this shows that MC is not a good person, but she is not really all that terrible either.

Let's see how the story develops, maybe MC will have to face some consequences for her actions, maybe her past self will, maybe it will just devolve further into a porn plot, but I am honestly curious to see how it goes.

Sayaka is trying really hard to get Mako to admit her feelings, maybe she should just take the first step?

Gosh, these two are just way too cute. I am still hoping for Yuri down the line, but even without it their relationship is just so damn wholesome and precious that it makes me feel fluffy every time
It's also funny whenever other characters remark how close they are. They're likely not even aware of just how much of a married couple they are themselves

hold up; possible explanation, kid is transbian.

I guess there are two possible ways of interpreting what the unspoken half of "It's not a matter of whether I see you as a woman or not" actually is. I personally think what the kid wanted to say is:" It's because you see me as a man" but couldn't, so all we have is a half of a sentence. At least a trans kid is personally something preferable to me over the other option

I really hope the eventual explanation is either that he's gay or trans, rather than just being some kind of creep.
Although, judging from the overall tone of the manga and the way this has been set up so ominously, I am almost sure it will be resolved like that.

This really can't update quick enough, I love these two soooo much. Really curious to see more about Lin Luxi as well

I smell heavy drama in the making

Petition to ditch this mess of a main story and turn the series into a wholesome sports manga focused on the basketball captain instead