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I like the idea, of inexperienced lesbians getting excited like a horny teenaged boy when they are around an attractive woman, but I just can't picture real lesbians acting like that.

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I have very mixed feelins about this new revelation, about the girls' mothers. On the one hand, I kind of hate that they let men lead them astray from their S&M path of yuri love. On the other hand that did let them have daughters to carry on their yuri tradition.
Does this mean the girls will also one day turn their backs on their love, to heed the siren call of men and and children. That really bums me out man.

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Yuri Danshi discussion 09 Apr 20:18
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Ish. (tugging at my collar) 10 pages in I remember why I was skipping this story. It is just too on the the nose for me.

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Haven't Yamada and Kase had sex already? I guess I could understand a little self consciousness about sleeping the same bed. But Yamada's mental vapor lock seemed a bit over the top.

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That stupid rocking horse sent 7 kids back in time, before park workers closed it down.

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Kuu u gave Yurina a heart felt back story to her love for Honoka. That mean's it's for real and not just a cheap gag. That makes me kind of happy.

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There is a yuri oneshot, where a girl is making a scarf for her female sempi, who she has a crush on. Her best friend is confused but in end helps. In doing so she realizes, she has feelings for her friend. Does anyone know the name of it.

Probably this:
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/snowflakes#1

Sequel:
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/snowflakes_after

Yes that's it. I've been looking for this for quite awhile. And I totally forgot the sequel. Thanks to you both are safely in my favorites list.

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There is a yuri oneshot, where a girl is making a scarf for her female sempi, who she has a crush on. Her best friend is confused but in end helps. In doing so she realizes, she has feelings for her friend. Does anyone know the name of it.

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I can't think of anything more bittersweet than seeing the woman you're in love with, in the beautiful wedding dress, she will be wearing, while marrying someone else.

Aint sweet that's just pain

How could you not just melt when the woman you love stands before you looking so radiant, and happy.

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This chapter was a sweet change from all the drama I've been reading on the site lately. And Kasumi kissing Sakurako made this old yuri skeptic's heart swoon.

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About three or four pages in, I gave up reading the little notes, and just read the story. Is the regular chapter going to be a different story?

Edit: I got serious flashbacks to Eartha Kitt's Catwoman reading that credt page.

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What? And might I also add huh?

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I can't think of anything more bittersweet than seeing the woman you're in love with, in the beautiful wedding dress, she will be wearing, while marrying someone else.

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Damnit I actually fell for it, again! (shaking my fist in the air) Curse you April Fool's day!!!

All I could think was this is suppose to be a gathering of girls of the U.N. but._.
There is an awful lot of honkies in here.

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Oh thank god! It's just a April fools day chapter. For a second there, I thought I was having a LSD flashback. Which would be odd because I never actually took LSD.

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That is one of the reasons I found it funny you cut it there. You took that bit out even though it still fit you point. The paragraph break seemed like the natural cut of point but you seemed to take the extra time to remove that, as well, and I just wondered why.

Superfluous to the point either of us was making.

Well it's just leaving that last part out, makes me sound a bit like a man hating jerk, is all.

I get your point about a good story. However it's still should fit the genre. Aliens is a great movie but if someone recommended it to you as a rom-com you would think they lost their mind.

But Aliens being sci-fi/horror genre did not particularly precondition the various characters' roles in it, now did it? Aside from a low expected rate of survival somewhat coming with the territory ofc, especially given the example set by the first movie in the franchise...

That being what we're talking about here, not the kind of reductio ad absurdum mislabeling you're throwing here as a counter-example for reasons mystifying to me.

I was just using an extreme example to point out some boxes have to be check to fit a genre. Yuri is about women and their relationships so men by design have to take a back seat to the gals. Although I can't see any decent writer would see checking the yuri boxes as an obstacle to writing a good story.

I would totally be on board if someone used male character in a yuri in a new and exciting way as long as the girl got the girl in the end.

Well, yes, but that's hardly what you were saying before. Which was instead basically the equivalent of "stay in the kitchen".

(Sigh) Real talk here. Lilification was being confrontational with the ignorant comment so I jumped in, like an idiot, But in my defence, I think you would be hard pressed to find a male character, in a yuri, that doesn't fit in one of those four broad character types

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I'm not really interested in guys take in this story cause why should be?
I don't read yuri works to get male viewpoint presented in them, so maybe if people want it here means it's not a yuri work after all?
Cuse yuri works should be only presentd from female viewpoint in my opinion.

What an ignorant opinion. However, you might have better luck finding stories you enjoy with the tag "404: Men Not Found"

I guess I share the ignorant opinion because I think the only roles men should play, in a yuri, is the abusive boyfriend/husband The MC's escape from, the losing romantic rival, or the comic relief.

Yeah bro rigid narrative pigeonholing is pretty cringe t b h ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I find it a bit funny that you cropped my comment to leave out the part where I say, I like to see more men in supportive friend roles.
I'm not against men in yuri, I just feel yuri is for fans of women loving women, so men should be secondary characters.

I quite fail to see how it changes the main point in any meaningful fashion.

That is one of the reasons I found it funny you cut it there. You took that bit out even though it still fit you point. The paragraph break seemed like the natural cut of point but you seemed to take the extra time to remove that, as well, and I just wondered why.

I just feel stories and characters should stand, and be judged, by the virtues of their creative and narrative merits and quality of writing (what I personally like to shorthand as "craftsmanship") and not by how many boxes they cross off on some arbitrary checklist of mandatory genre tropes.

I get your point about a good story. However it's still should fit the genre. Aliens is a great movie but if someone recommended it to you as a rom-com you would think they lost their mind.
I would totally be on board if someone used male character in a yuri in a new and exciting way as long as the girl got the girl in the end.

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I'm not really interested in guys take in this story cause why should be?
I don't read yuri works to get male viewpoint presented in them, so maybe if people want it here means it's not a yuri work after all?
Cuse yuri works should be only presentd from female viewpoint in my opinion.

What an ignorant opinion. However, you might have better luck finding stories you enjoy with the tag "404: Men Not Found"

I guess I share the ignorant opinion because I think the only roles men should play, in a yuri, is the abusive boyfriend/husband The MC's escape from, the losing romantic rival, or the comic relief.

Yeah bro rigid narrative pigeonholing is pretty cringe t b h ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I find it a bit funny that you cropped my comment to leave out the part where I say, I like to see more men in supportive friend roles.
I'm not against men in yuri, I just feel yuri is for fans of women loving women, so men should be secondary characters.

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A round in a circle we will go
Not to fast
Not to slow.

Edit: at least this time around there seems to be a little bit more room for plot development.

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I'm not really interested in guys take in this story cause why should be?
I don't read yuri works to get male viewpoint presented in them, so maybe if people want it here means it's not a yuri work after all?
Cuse yuri works should be only presentd from female viewpoint in my opinion.

What an ignorant opinion. However, you might have better luck finding stories you enjoy with the tag "404: Men Not Found"

I guess I share the ignorant opinion because I think the only roles men should play, in a yuri, is the abusive boyfriend/husband The MC's escape from, the losing romantic rival, or the comic relief. I would like to see more men in supportive friend roles but (sigh) they are rare.
Unfortunately this story also has a het tag so the guys have just has much right to share the narrative as the women.

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All of this het is giving me a tummy ache.

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This is where Nanasawa wakes up in the hospital, to find it was all just a dream brought on from the head injury she got from falling off that playground rocking horse.

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So you think scotch tape is awesome, Okiku? Wait to you discover duct tape. Just remember the amateur handyman's motto, if you can't fix it, duct it.

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Polygamy! (long heavy sigh) Why did it have to be polygamy!?

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Good to know you didn't understand Octave at all.

Most people who liked Octave didn't understand it either, since the only translation available was pretty bad.

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I’m not sure what the relative quality of the translation has to do with the apportionment of blame and punishment required to be meted out to fictional characters whose behavior one disapproves of. Even we stupid readers who accepted the available translation and liked the story could see that Yukino cheated and yet somehow was not forced to endure the emotional equivalent of wearing sackcloth and ashes.

You're missing the point. The story was shit not because Yukino was an asshole and got scot free. That's not what I meant. The problem with the writing is the Akiyama did mean for Yukino to get character growth but he didn't provide the heavy-lifting for that to feel earned. That's why having a character face the consequences of their actions is important. It's not a matter of morality. It's a matter of narrative internal logic. If a character doesn't face the consequence of their actions, the narrative can't justify their personal growth properly. And that's what happened with Yukino. Her character growth at the end feel forced rather than a logical consequence of her character journey.

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As for this manga, it seems way better than Octave already. Mostly because the characters are openly shitty people. THIS type of a story is all about how deep the rabbit hole can get. I like that.

I’d welcome a repost of this response in the Octave forum—we’re far enough off-topic for here already. (I’m still interested in the question of how the assertion “Most people who liked Octave didn't understand it either, since the only translation available was pretty bad” supposedly works.)

Arguing about Octave on another story's comment section, feels weirdly nostalgic to me. Lol.