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Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

This series is great but I keep thinking, what was the chance for Seiran to survive if she just told Mimi to heal her...

Yes, probably. At the same time, I feel it's perfectly in character and makes sense that she wouldn't. It feels, for lack of a better term, perfectly appropriate, that it was exactly like her to act as she did. The whole way in which the story unfolded feels very fitting and right, for lack of better terms. Besides, I feel that nothing else would've had the same impact.

In any case, this series hits in a manner very few, if any, ever have. It's so hard to read at times, but I can never resist reading it, I constantly find myself drawn to it, it's just so good. I agree with the fellow above, this is going to kill me at some point.

Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

I'm a big fan of the feel-good vibe and positivity of this story. I also love the misdirection(s), it really felt to me like Ruri was giving the stink-eye when she glanced at Miyako and might be stirring something up, but nope. Unless it was all part of a plan to have Hatomori killed.

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Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

Now I'm not saying 'Swap⇔Swap' would've been better had their method of switching bodies been like this one's, but...
In any case, this could be many things and go in many ways. I'm not too thrilled, to be honest, but I'll hop on for the ride, for the time being.

Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

My general feeling about these two chapters can be summed up with this.

I was mostly correct with my guesstimation earlier. Though the story didn't delve too deep into Aki's background, and I kinda really like that. The only thing not getting an answer was the whole full moon thing, and I'm still expecting this to be addressed. I also like how the swift resolution came about. Sakaki looked like she was ready to give Aki a good smack, which I can understand. I'd have liked to see them learn that they're talking about the princess.

After that, it was just pure sweetness, and Momo going even further on the attack and being paralleled as a beast gave me a good laugh. I absolutely love Momo going "I'm a princess, it's cool!" This is how you abuse your authority properly... I think... In any case, Aki kissing Momo at the end there simply made me happy. This is great. I'm very much looking forward to seeing what comes next.

Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

As I said...

Yeah, very similar to the music industry, then. It's a shame, really. Still, since we don't know know the whole truth, I'd like to remain at least somewhat optimistic.

Would buying domestic releases be required to buy in Japan, or is ordering through Amazon.jp or whatever enough?

Also sorry for pestering and the off-topic nonsense.

last edited at May 22, 2022 4:16AM

Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

My guess is that Mikami-san is planning to make Nao become the next secretary.

Yeah. I'm pretty much expecting the first panel of the next chapter to have her go "... and come work under president Amano!"

I'm okay with this development, especially if the bait goes the way I expect it to. Props to Ms. Secretary on the initiative, too.

Eeeeeh, I wouldn’t want a secretary with no experience as a CEO/president of a large company. It’s tough work and requires a lot of time management and organization. Not something you just throw somebody into. Not to mention if it’s someone your involved with. I’m hoping she’s asking her to quit so Amano can ask her out properly.

I mean, in real life, absolutely. But in-universe Amano was shown to easily handle the job of a thousand people, or some exaggeration like that, and with no secretary in sight as well. Her only issue was shown to be motivation and/or I guess loneliness, so two issues, both of which are wholly fulfilled by the hopeful new hire. She'd be more of a constant mood +100 buff to the already capable president than an actual secretary. At least that's how it clicked in my head.

That said the bait has not unfolded beat-for-beat the way I expected it to, so we'll see where things go. Kind of stretching it here, I'll be honest.

For the record, I wouldn't mind if it unfolded the way you'd hoped either.

Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

...most of the time author doesn't get even 1% share from money you're spending and only few things will actually "support the author" and translate into direct profit for them.

So how does one support an author, then? Aside from the more "direct" ways like pixiv, fanbox, or whatever Patreon-adjacent model out there that I assume would be "best."

I also genuinely wonder, I mean, I don't think we really know whether buying the release actually does support the author unless by chance someone from any publisher lurks around here and would like to share some of the deets with us. The thing is that I don't necessarily think that you're wrong, sadly, since music distribution/music labels, for instance, are infamous for very much working like this, and the whole thing is often very unfair to artists (I'd even say predatory, in a way), but I'd like to be a bit more optimistic, I guess. Also on more than a monetary level. I'd assume (and hope) authors can see how well their work does in the west or just in general and I'd personally like to consider purchasing either a localized version or the "original" one as having shown support.

In any case, I'm very excited by the announcement. Also surprised. I personally wouldn't want the fan translation to stop (and would offer assistance if needed and I have the ability to), but it's more than understandable if it does.

last edited at May 21, 2022 4:02PM

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Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

Big sis gives major "I need an adult?" "I am an adult." vibe and I find it very amusing. Also weirdly hot. Also did she just throw in "it's no wonder Yuu [would] like you" and it went completely under the radar?

The way I'm reading the whole "good girl" thing is that it probably feels like she's being reduced to only being that, like nothing else about her stands out, which should be objectively incorrect in-universe but still something that happens and would explain her apparent lack of confidence. Looking forward to seeing things develop further.

This is legit one of the series that I'm simultaneously most looking forward to seeing updated while only remembering of its existence when it does, paradoxically enough. Something about the character designs just oozes passion, affection, and warmth in a way that really hits different.

last edited at May 18, 2022 6:42PM

Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

My guess is that Mikami-san is planning to make Nao become the next secretary.

Yeah. I'm pretty much expecting the first panel of the next chapter to have her go "... and come work under president Amano!"

I'm okay with this development, especially if the bait goes the way I expect it to. Props to Ms. Secretary on the initiative, too.

last edited at May 16, 2022 4:40AM

Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

But most of the comments are people bickering about rock and metal... :/

I'm not seeing any bickering, really. Mainly folks sharing their favorite sounds out of Japan. Love seeing folks being passionate about rock/metal, and also seeing a lot of names I've not encountered myself. I don't know that I'll ever have the time to check them all out, unfortunately, especially with literally hundreds of other albums I'd like to spin at some point in my life.

Stuff I do know about is Galneryus which were mentioned previously but I'd like to mention them again since they're pretty much the flagship of Japanese power metal, Desecravity, Intestine Baalism, Kyojin Daigyakusatsu, I cannot believe I forgot Ningen Isu... hm... been a while since I have heard any new Japanese music, really. I'll also recommend guitar player Masaaki Kishibe to any fan of fingerstyle guitar, one of the absolute best. I also know that neoclassical/shred/virtuoso rock/metal has been big in Japan to varying degrees for a good while, Michael Angelo Batio and Marty Friedman I specifically recall being huge over there.

To be completely honest, let me go on a little bit of a tangent myself: Japanese music in all forms is very uniquely flavored, to say the least, and there are a lot of acts with a lot of personality, for better or worse, and even the approach to (more) mainstream music writing can at sometimes be baffling to me, my greatest example would be what I believe is the opening theme for Release the Spyce, pretty awesome show by the way, which is a preppy-happy pop/rock tune (with uncharacteristically animated drum work,) that at some point bursts into a double-kick line and then into a goddamn blast beat, and it fucking works, for some reason! I find it incredibly interesting how the outside-the-box music structuring and composition are compared to western pop music's songwriting.

But one of the reasons that my musical sphere of influence doesn't reach Japanese music as much nowadays is that it is an absolute urethral needle to properly tag and catalog, which is something very important to me. By tag and catalog, I mean having the proper name of the band, proper name of their releases, proper track order, etc., and exactly because of the aforementioned unique flavor, there are a lot of bands with randomly capitalized names, completely nonsensical names, or names with goddamn emojis in them and it can be absolute goddamn ass to track and tag, especially if you're using something like Last.fm like I am, and on top of it all, there aren't many discography lists that are consistent in the information shown and stuff. It's a lot more prominent in pop music than in rock or metal - I'm a big fan of Yanagi Nagi (or Nagi Yanagi, however you'd prefer,) for instance, and the various listings of her discography, their inconsistencies, and lack of anything 'official' have made it very hard for me to track it and tag it properly throughout the years. Rant end. Goddamn, it feels good to get this out of my system.

last edited at May 10, 2022 8:33AM

Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

The extra was so sweet! Love me some good fluff. Poor Mai, that was pretty much a murder attempt, the strawberries thing, in particular, good lord. Almost seems premeditated, or it would've seemed if I didn't know better. Asumi is a natural-born ladykiller, yet she knows not of the power she possesses, and it amuses me endlessly.

I also love the extra details for the other cast members. I find it impressive, in the sense that it's evidence to the thought put behind them, and I always appreciate that. That, and it also implies them returning at some point, to which I say absolutely please and thank you.

As somewhat of an aside, I'm also of the opinion that the story hadn't forgotten about Mai. Asumi has definitely gotten sidetracked, but be it consciously or through unquenchable lust, she's still doing what she set out to do originally and will get there eventually. Regardless and in any case, I'm a big fan of everything the story's shown thus far, and do not mind the sidetracking and related shenanigans.

last edited at May 10, 2022 8:34AM

Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

I know that DragonForce is quite big in Japan

Amusingly, to my knowledge, metal is pretty big in Japan in general and the scene is very lively, and power metal specifically is relatively mainstream, I think. In a way, I think I wouldn't be surprised if DragonForce would be considered more widespread than Foo Fighters or Nirvana.

In any case, I'm a big fan of everything this story has shown so far, and hopefully, it keeps with it. Loving the uncle/niece designs in particular.

last edited at May 8, 2022 2:39PM

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Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

Page (000)45, the girl went for the... is it called second-hand kiss? I blanked the fuck out right now. In any case, girl went for it without a shred of hesitation. Makes me think a few things:

One thought is what I'd say is the more obvious idea that the girl legitimately harbors feelings for her actual sister with said sister being either departed or living but unreachable. Perhaps said sister had already rejected her or had gotten married, plenty of options, but the girl's now seeking to fill the void with the conveniently placed pretty office lady.

Another thought is that the girl was, from the start, interested in the pretty office lady who was very implicitly (read: as implicit as a mega car crash) into her and decided due to whatever reasons to get close to her through this contract thingy. Admittedly much more of a reach as a theory, and would need a bit more extra work to make actual sense, but the way two chapters had paralleled Hayafuji with the other woman in Meguru's flashbacks gives me that vibe. Also the kiss thing, you don't just do that out of nowhere. Said woman, in this line of thought, would either be an unreachable sister or a past love/past partner/past contractee, which is where I think this theory would be leaning toward.

I don't yet have an opinion or a thought regarding the awfully convenient housing situation. I don't necessarily feel that Meguru would have enough power to have an active part in it, but we also don't know much about her at all. I do think that there's a method to the madness and that this isn't just lazy and convenient writing, with evidence for that being the mentioned parallels between the two women in Meguru's life.

(edit) I also don't know how to exactly explain this, but there's something about the little details of Meguru's behavior that radiates a not exactly sexual, but intimate and seductive aura, at least in little sister mode. Some of the panels have a very peculiar tension to them that isn't exactly sexual in nature, but much closer to it than anything else. Admittedly I'm definitely reading too deep into things at this point and this is a shot in the dark, but there are visible differences in the nuance(s) that legitimately interest me, and I'm looking forward to hopefully seeing the series develop and how these come into play from this point.

In either case, what I think the plan here is to have Hayafuji and Meguru develop an actual bond through the whole contract sister thing, and most probably develop into romance, and that the story would overall be on the more lighthearted side of things, but not without its fair share of turbulence. Honestly, I'd say I'm in for the ride either case, so yeah.

last edited at May 1, 2022 8:58AM

Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

I'm hoping that the next chapter starts with Yuzu answering something along the lines of "Nah, I ain't into that shit," then bumping into Minami on the way out and starting to literally sparkle, obvious signs of solid camaraderie between the two.

Jokes aside, I actually am expecting Yuzu to already have realized her own feelings and to be the one with their hands on the reins, for lack of a better term. Actually, the one steering the ship would probably be better, but yeah, I'm expecting this sort of dynamic, with Minami the one who just realized and will be a bumbling mess henceforth and Yuzu, whose reaction would probably be "did you really figure it out just now?" I'm probably going to love this one. I mean... the game was rigged from the start, really.

last edited at Apr 30, 2022 7:01AM

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Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

Let's fucking go! Pure sugar all the way through, I'm absolutely loving it. The awkward kisses were so adorable, and I'm a big fan of Mashiro being the proactive/assertive one. Would this be considered a reversal It also seems like the manga's going to stick around for at least a little while longer, and I'm a big fan of that as well. Again, let's fucking go!

Also, I'm willing to bet Mashiro had something of an awakening/discovery with the blindfold.

Damn that shit was fucking cute I feel like I need to listen to sad music just to even my feelings out

Let me tell you, stuff like this goes terrifically well with technical death metal. I'm only half-joking with this statement.

Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

I am sure the sixth girl will show up with the focus of all 5 senses. Maybe that glasses girl !

Nah, the sixth girl will be a sense of balance who will introduce our hapless protagonist to polyamory. ... Just choosing all of them is "balanced" right?

Sixth girl is Thanos. Got it.

Man, I've been leaning toward the teacher from the start (perhaps second only to the former idol,) but this right there had her shoot up the ranking obscenely quickly. I'm legitimately expecting (and obviously hoping for) some poly shenaniganonsense of one shape or another, but if the endgame focuses on one girl, I'm now very much in the hot-for-teacher camp. Did you see how adorable she was? The glorious gap between her mature facade and cute meltdown? My god, I was melting as well.

last edited at Apr 15, 2022 5:45AM

Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

Milf ship let's go! Good lord, that was something. This series constantly pushes buttons I didn't even know I have.

I love how the reveal about Mio's mother happened, especially since I did have an image of her being... you know, for lack of a better word, normal? Then she pulls out the goddamn whip. The gap is chef's kiss marvelous.

In all seriousness, I need the mothers to have their happy ending. Honestly, I'm not sure how to feel about the whole story of them drifting apart for whatever reasons, but I care not, it is now paramount they end up together. The setup is there, there are no obvious obstacles to overcome - milf ship set sail!

Also, I can't wait for the hopefully eventual reveal that all of them are debaucherous. The reactions, and whatever it'll lead up to, just thinking about it... I need this to happen.

I have a love of that trope where it's like "the new generation turns out to just be the same thing as the old generation"

Same. Not sure why, but I have a strange fondness for it. Particularly in scenarios like this.

last edited at Apr 14, 2022 5:11AM

Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

This chapter was... like the first chapter of an entirely new manga, lol.

No brothels, no prostitutes, no sex, just pure and wholesome fun with two girls who start living together, go through lots of awkward doki-doki moments, and little by little start having feelings for each other.

And I am honestly more than okay with this; hell, I'm all for it. Loved the chapter. Nanao (wasn't it Nao before? Probably mistranslated and got fixed) is adorable, the gay panic is absolutely golden, and unwitting keeps-rolling-nat-20 Asumi the seductress is hilarious as well. Plus we weren't "robbed" of the lewd, with the lengthy bath scene and tension between the two. Also did I mention gay panic? Nanao is down bad (correct usage?) and I'm loving every second.

Though I wouldn't say Asumi's developing any feelings just yet. She's a friendly and affectionate gal by nature, add to that all the stuff rubbing unto her from prodigious amounts of brothel visits, both literally and as far as mannerisms and habits go, I'd say that she most definitely is unaware of her seductive prowess, or just her power level in general. Girl's practically a living, breathing women melter.

last edited at Apr 10, 2022 4:41PM

Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

Every time a batch of chapters drops feels like it's my birthday. First two chapters were a blessing full of fluff (I adore the little wolf candy that Momo made, and maid Aki is chefs kiss, also tails wagging everywhere,) and I'm a big fan of how things are shaping up in the following chapter, though I'm not seeing this turn into anything particularly dramatic. I'm not seeing a whole lot of drama in general, really, as the series has been rather swift about turning those into fluff. Biggest thing that might happen is Momo thinking that things are turning out like with the maid that took advantage of her.

I love how Momo was able to actually piece the puzzle together and read the situation and go all-in for it, especially with the pro-player move of using her authority... that sounds kinda odd, but it actually works really well contextually. She was absolutely correct and I hope she realizes that and doesn't start thinking she's made a big mistake and messed up beyond repair.

I believe the next chapters will delve a bit into Aki's background. It's clear to me that something has happened to her that might have been catastrophic, and may even relate to her lupine traits and the full moon, hence why she says she's come to the Sheep country seeking peace. I'm inclined to believe the mentioned sister has passed, her entire family has, probably. Both Aki and Momo carry some luggage from previous occurrences in their lives, we've learned about some of Momo's, and now it's time for her and the audience to learn about Aki's, once this happens I expect things to realign quickly and smoothly.

Sort of as an aside, based on the map shown on chapter 14 page 13, Sheep country is pretty much not-France, right? The marker parallels Paris' location, I think. Might be related to Aki's background, then, assuming she's come from the not-Germany area?

last edited at Mar 16, 2022 8:52AM

Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

I'm a guy and have been a fan of Yuri for many years...

I'm a guy as well, wanted to hop on the "confession" train. Was always afraid of pointed fingers and damning labels, so I've kept being a yuri fan on a low fire for the longest time. I still am afraid, to be honest, since I do admit that --for me-- part of the appeal does come from the "lesbian sex," but it's far from being the primary factor. Amusingly, though, for better or worse, I believe my first exposure to "proper" yuri was the Sakura Trick anime. Or maybe the gateway into yuri would be a better description for that. I remember that "flip of a switch," feeling, "this is a whole new horizon before me" kind of thing.

I saw a comment somewhere around that said something along the lines of "I just like seeing girls being happy with each other," and that kind of struck a chord with me... for better or worse, I guess? Kind of afraid of making the wrong impression here, honestly.

On the subject of this manga, I'm a big fan of meta-humor and especially the usage of art-style shifts as emphasis, and I'm a big fan, in general, of how things are shaping up, so yeah, I'm a big fan. Looking forward to seeing where things go.

Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

...graduate from client to prostitute... Looking forward to it.

He speaks the language of the gods.

Honestly I like the way Itsuki Kuro draws breasts a lot more than Homura Subaru. This series consistently has what I’d consider to be some of the best anatomy and sex scenes in any nsfw comic I’ve ever seen.

100% in agreement.

In any case, this side-chapter is some good shit. That's another one to the inevitable harem, yes?

last edited at Feb 18, 2022 6:41PM

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Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

My greatest issue with the way the plot panned out is not the lack of a threeway ending, although that was my preferred route, but the way it was handled and how practically every other potential thread of a plotline was dropped for the sake of the current ending, and how there were so many loose ends that were plainly unsatisfactory either due to their halfhearted resolution or to the complete absence of one. Most glaringly is Rinna, they didn't even show her whole face on the final page, where the fuck did that come from?

I'm very much inclined to believe that this is the work of an axe, a chainsaw, even, a chainsaw firing machine gun, even, and operating under this assumption I can somewhat let things slide, but the series should have, could have, and very much needed to have gone on for longer, there are no two ways about that. There was a lot to develop, explore, and dive into, most importantly to me would've been potential developments in the dynamic between Rinna and Sayo, which was well over the stage of a mere idea already.

Now, having blown some steam and despite the above negativity, I can definitely say that ending and resolution aside, this has been a wonderful read. Very wholesome and heartwarming, with very endearing characters and great dynamics among and between them, and terrific art style. I enjoyed it a lot for the substantially greater part of its runtime, and this cannot be taken away despite the bitter taste left in the end.

Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

At this point, I'm very much inclined to believe, if not outright convinced, that the answer to the end-game question is "yes."
I'm also inclined to believe, and honestly very much hoping, that the maid job goes completely off the rails and ends with the two going to town, and I'm all for it. Nao is very interested in Asumi and very clearly parched, very adorably so might I add, and Asumi... is pretty much a neverending fountain, really.

On a bit more of a serious note, it does almost feel like the whole original premise was put aside at the moment, and I'm saying almost because it's only been 10 chapters and whatnot, but I legitimately do not mind those 'side stories' and digressions. On the contrary, I wholeheartedly approve, since every character newly introduced and reintroduced was top-tier and every scenario presented absolutely golden, so long as the series keeps up this quality of presentation and execution, and so long as Mai doesn't actually get completely forgotten/sidelined, I'm all up for this wild ride.

last edited at Feb 4, 2022 7:57PM

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Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

Any romantic connection between Sayo and Rinna was very weakly set up in a panel or two and quickly dropped...

I think that's the biggest problem, it was simply dropped. The arrow and the (accidental yet very real) kiss could have and, in my opinion, should have led to the two of them getting closer to one another on a basis that is more than just Mei's existence (and I believe there were more opportunities for that,) but it was dropped like it was nothing; the potential was there, the narrative opening into the possibility was there. I wouldn't necessarily tie that to the teacher's romantic dynamic, but hot-damn does the timing and p(l)acing seem intentional. Maybe the author was testing the waters of whatever sea they'd like to navigate the ship through, or something like that.

On another note, I've spent a good chunk of my day catching up on Watanare's manga adaptation, which is another work by Teren Mikami, and honestly, I can't say I'm the biggest fan of theirs, or rather, the way their stories are constructed. Like honestly, the fluff both in this series and in Watanare is absolutely fantastic as are the character dynamics. Not gonna go to into too long a tangent, but I feel that there's a lot of forced contrivances and forced shoddy in-universe logic and some simply interesting to "why is that even needed" type of decisions in plotline/character developments, and those appear very glaringly in both mentioned series.

last edited at Jan 14, 2022 6:03PM

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Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

This turn of events feels somewhat sour. I'm happy for Sayo, obviously, but I definitely thought the story's gonna go big and not home. To me, it felt like there was a lot of focus specifically on the threeway route, and it was more than just the thing with the teachers, which in itself was really more part of Mei exploring and witnessing the various ways in which love and relationships can take form than it was foreshadowing. That said, I could definitely see Sayo and Mei's kiss being the so-called nail in the polyamorial coffin. Or I don't know, maybe I gotta reread the series again, which there's no reason not to since I think it was pretty good regardless.

I will also say that the turn of events coming now seems like a sprint toward the finish line and feels like a very sudden and sharp turn too, the pace of the last few chapters felt kind of rushed as well. Both of which suck on their own since there was a lot to explore and continue with in the series that would just go nowhere. And honestly, I just enjoyed the fluff, really.

Rinna also got the very short end of the stick which sucks pretty bad. I definitely don't think her relationship with Mei was explored and delved into the same way as Sayo's was. And in all honesty, I mean, really, both Sayo and Rinna are absolute sweethearts, there was no reason not to go for the whole pot there.

In any case, there's still one more chapter, if the above reports are true, so there may be some hope for a bunny out of the hat. Go big or go home, goddamnit. At least give Rinna an appropriate happy end, man, she doesn't deserve to be done this dirty.