I seriously doubt this manga will continue past the end of Arc 1 of the WN. That's basically Rei and Claire's story and the plot of Revolution. So all that stuff in the spoilers earlier is extremely unlikely to be relevant.

As to another comment's concern, there's some metaphor with reality's LGBT issues, and even some trans representation and discussion but outside one big argument with a couple nuns about whether or not homosexuality is bad, it doesn't play a big role. Ultimately, this is a romance story and a 'kingdom in revolution' story and nothing beyond those two things gets a very significant amount of time spent on it.

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That protagonist is dumb as a brick though. I can never understand why girls would prefer some greasy middleaged man that mostly likely could owerpower them instead of another nice looking girl. Have fun getting abused I guess.

Probably for the same reason a straight young guy wouldn't go out with a good looking looking guy over a greasy middle aged woman? Seems kinda silly to call someone dumb for not going against their genetic wiring.

+1
Kinda funny seeing "Have fun getting abused" phrase, when plot of this is more or less typical hentai mind-break, just served as fluffy comedy with less graphic scenes. Yeah. I'm not buying this.

So a girl with the same age and strength is the same to you as some adult guy that is knowingly going for minors? Okay.

And yes, if you walk into the lion's den, expect to get eaten. Anyway, back to yuri.

It's worth pointing out that this mentality is literally victim blaming.

Additionally, I think we've progressed societally to the point where people don't have to date people physically weaker than them to feel safe.

Personally, I think muscular women are incredibly sexy and would date one in a heartbeat, regardless of the difference in physical strength (I am a twig). If anything, I'm pretty sure I'd draw some small sense of security from the difference in strength.

If your relationship becomes abusive, that is awful, but there's no simple way to avoid potential abusers. They come in all shapes, sizes, and genders. When extending this into the realm of emotional abuse, this is even more true.

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"realistically portrayed lesbian child predator without being specifically attracted to children" is a good summary of this so far, since the attraction is apparently based on her similarity to her sister. Unfortunately, that's not really something I'm comfortable reading. I actually do like age gap stories, even some that society might frown on like high school junior/senior x adult office worker (so something like 17 to 25). Still, 14 is just too young in general and ESPECIALLY when the character is completely sexually naive and relying on the older party to provide the moral and social context for sexual acts. That's a huge 'yikes'.

I don't resent the manga for existing or being written, but it's just too far off the course from why I read manga for me to want to continue reading it. I read manga to vicariously experience thrilling love stories (generally), not to gain insight into the makings of criminal-level child predators.

Revolutionary Girl Utena: Manga About a Butch Sword Girl Who Has to Fight Her Whole School to Marry the Femme of Her Dreams.

I mean, that's more like what I wish that anime was like.

The reality was more like: Manga About a Butch Sword Girl Who Really Likes Fighting, Enters a Male-Centric Fighting Tournament, and Inadvertently Gets a Femme Through a Technicality That She Eventually Kinda Likes (But The Ending Buries the Gays).

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Nobody more intensely author-inserts themselves into their work than Konbu Wakame. I mean she makes it obvious when naming characters after herself, but even when not doing that, it seems like she writes a lot of her own untempered desires into the work.

I feel like most girls would probably not place their crotch on a friend's desk edge like in this latest chapter. Though, I have to admit, given this manga, I was a little surprised she didn't start grinding on it after that. Maybe that's too lewd, but the author does show a heavily outlined crotch shot from that angle while it happens, so maybe not.

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The setup is highly reminiscent of the "I Married My Best Friend To Shut My Parents Up" manga. I always love these kinds of plots.

I'm not a fan of the art style. These characters are drawn in a way that minimizes their age, hence the loli complaints - I personally prefer something closer to reality if not even farther (maximizing their age, I guess).

However, I think the premise is pretty good, even if the manga doesn't do as much with the premise as I would like. The idea that two women can love each other in relatively short order and then be open about their relationship extremely early into the story like this is something that almost NEVER happens. Lesbian relationships are usually only established after a ridiculous amount of trials and tribulations in most manga, so a beginning like this is both surprising and refreshing.

I would still rather the manga focus on the romance and relationship aspects rather than on misunderstanding what dates are or what doujinshi are, but this at least holds my interest enough for now that I will overlook the loli-esque character art style, which is something I normally wouldn't accept.

Some great progress, even if a third party played a helping hand.

This story almost feels like it was literally ripped from my life. It's pretty eerie how close parts of it are. It definitely captures the "friends when we need to copy your homework or when we can make fun of you" friendships that typified almost all of my relationships until college. MC dresses almost identically to me as well, though I liked button-up shirts better for some reason.

Unlike the MC though, I didn't really have any strong crushes in school. Sort of an autistic thing mostly, but I never look anyone in the eye and never glance at anyone's sexual characteristics (I have never 'checked somebody out' before). Because I rarely enjoyed having friends and never made any proper contact with others, it was easy to completely avoid romance/sex. Though people did accuse me often of being a homosexual when I would always dodge their questions about who I liked, but it was easy to just deny that.

Ngl, the fact that it's the end took me by surprise. I was like "End ? Wdym End ? Is that all ?". Don'tgetme wrong, i like the fact that she didn't take the apologize but you can't tell me she got a peaceful highschool life after that.And as cute as the ending is, it feel a bit random, like the author didn't assume the whole angst and the ending and put an happy ending.

No, her high school life was probably awful, since I bet rejecting their apology made them hate her.

She should have navigated it more diplomatically. Accept their apology on the surface and to their faces but pull back from the friendships. Dodge questions, don't commit to any events in the future, and otherwise avoid them. If they ask if anything is wrong, insist everything is fine and make up an excuse.

That's what I would do (and did).

this is the future leftists want

A future with cute adult lesbians? I mean I am leftist and I want that, but I'm confused what you find negative about this scenario. If you're a homophobe, what the fuck are you doing on dynasty-scans.com? Don't you have minorities you need to hate and oppress for no reason?

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So obviously this series isn't ready for the yuri tag, and it may not ever be. But I think it's probably ready for "Subtext", especially with the latest extras.

At the very least, if you don't want to tag the whole series that way (which is kinda understandable, since it's a ridiculously long series), the extras itself should be tagged as Subtext.

Re: earlier comments - I have always wondered why one's heartbeat is on the left side, whereas anxiety, happiness, love, and a few other emotions are felt directly in the center of the chest. I've looked for the answer a few times but never really found one (there's virtually no information out there on 'how' and 'where' we feel emotions for some reason outside of a single study that gets quoted everywhere...).

I think the answer is because emotions are felt in areas based on neurological paths, and it has little to do with blood flow. Still not sure why the center of the chest is the place those feelings end up because there isn't anything important there even from a neurological perspective, though.

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Very nice resolution to the last chapter's loneliness. It's the most mature possible approach to handle a short-term time-limited situation in a relationship - use your extra time to support your partner's limited time.

It'd be pretty hard for other people to even find out about the condition usually, but I guess (at least in Japanese schools according to manga), students often have basic medical checkups at the school nurse in lines. It'd be very obvious then or through a few other situations (sleepovers maybe, if they were close to each other, as well as walking arm in arm).

As long as the girl didn't move away, the information could easily follow her after it was discovered as well. I did something stupid once in 6th grade, and although my middle school fed into two different high schools, and mine was an exceptionally large high school, I was still bullied up through my senior year of high school for the issue.

I mean, if anything, the ending implies that they eventually fade apart due to the distance, as almost all relationships at that age do.

That wasn't the ending I wanted, even if it is very realistic.

This is great; we need more yuri like this.

Is Haruki really a hero? From what I recall, she helps isolate Aya from other people, ensuring that she can't make any friends. Despite that, she doesn't actually hang out with Aya during classes or lunch, instead preferring to hang out with her 2 groupies.

She seems to be a genuinely negative force in Aya's life, and even her current activity that's sort of noble (breaking up Aya and Sei) is being done for the wrong reason (jealousy).

Despite all this, Haruki is probably the least flawed/bad person in this manga. But that's an incredibly low bar.

Edit: You appear to be 'headcanoning' a lot of things. Sei is not some master planner. She's running purely off emotions, using Aya for release. Her not-so-subtle brag to Haruki (the picture she sent) and letting Mochida listen in to their conversation seems to have been done purely for a (probably sexual) thrill. Aya is mad because Sei cheated on her with Yoru. She knew it was a possibility, but she's still really upset that it actually happened (Aya in Ch16: "I know, but..." in response to Sei's excuse).

It's not more complicated than that.

As for whether Aya is in love with Sei or it's just some combination of lust and jealousy, it appears to be the former based on the amount of non-sexual activities she partakes in with Sei (cooking for her and nursing her back to health twice). But I don't think there's enough information to say for sure either way. You can't just pull a background detail like book-reading out of the story and headcanon an explanation that has Aya at the center of some kind of psychological complex where she can't distinguish fantasy vs reality.

I'm not trying to excuse Sei, either. An adult who sleeps with a minor is still in the wrong even if the minor is in love with them. I'm not saying love would make it right.

Everyone in this manga is heavily flawed, and that's what I like about it. Even the ones that aren't flawed in a large number of ways (like Mochida) end up taking horrific actions (well, if she goes through with outing Sei, that's one of the most horrible things you could do to somebody).

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Concept is surprisingly similar in theme (nuns, magic, church vs evil) to Gunbred x Sisters.

Seems good though.

Yeah, Sei still has a lot of baggage to work through first. In fact, it's so much baggage that it might not be possible for them to be together and Aya might have to just get over it. I'm not sure though. Sei believes herself to be unlovable and broken, and redemption for characters like that is usually something authors prioritize. There's also multiple foreshadowing flags at the end of earlier chapters that say that Aya and Haruki's relationship is never the same again. That could technically be a way of wording around the issue of 'it isn't the same because they eventually became lovers', but I doubt it.

She was getting better, too, ironically. She was almost about to chase after Aya (and was really excited when she thought Aya might have been the one coming back). Then Yoru came in to relight the dying spark that was Sei's interest in her. Now it's a fucking bonfire of desire for Yoru again, and Sei's even worse off than before.

Yoru also just had to mention the divorce right before leaving too, just to rub more salt into the wound that maybe they could have had a relationship together if Aya wasn't there. As shitty as everyone is in this manga, I think I like Yoru the least. She spent years running away from her problems, ran to an old lover for a single night stand in order to run away from her husband, and then fucked up a toxic relationship that was beginning to stabilize for the first time.

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Whats with Yuri Hime having so many overly dramatic manga in its magazine. Seriously 90% of their manga is about toxic characters in toxic relationships. Then they wonder why when they turn these manga into anime they don't succeed. It's nice to show that yuri relationships aren't nice and fun but at the same time all they animate are the overly dramatic stories. I think that's why yuri subtext and yuri coming of age manga are usually more popular when they get animated. This is just my opinion.

There are a lot of problems with Yuri anime, but the big one is that they don't seem to care how the series will adapt to the format. For example, I love Adachi to Shimamura, but I think it's a horrible candidate to become an anime. Over 80% of the 'dialogue' is internal monologue, there's very little comedy, and it's an extremely long series (so it will need like 4 anime seasons to reach the end, which it will never get).

There are so many other candidates that would translate more cleanly, but the studios just seem to pick whatever is biggest, regardless of anything else.

Actually, assuming that chapter 20 is the final chapter (don't know if anywhere confirms whether or not volume 4 is the final volume), this series would translate very cleanly to anime. I don't know if there would be an interest, given how flawed the characters are and how smutty the sex scenes are, but there's very little internal monologue, the plot bounces forward at a nice pace, and the length is short enough they could finish it in one extended season.

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The real treasure was the relationships we detached along the way.

This made me laugh hysterically, thanks.

I heavily disagree with Yae and maybe Takemiya Jin herself assuming that is her perspective. Cosplay isn't appropriate normally because it is too flamboyant or too suggestive for normal attire in a school setting. Her outfit is neither. Wearing a long skirt and otherwise normal outfit is not remotely equivalent, and it sure as hell isn't "asking" to be raped, which is what seems to be implied here.

Beyond just the victim-blaming mentality of this perspective, it just seems backwards. It's like saying that somebody wearing a tuxedo suit to school is asking to be raped or is in violation of school code.

It doesn't even make sense.

The only consequence of wearing this outfit should be that you stand out and are maybe shunned by a minority of idiots because you aren't following fashion trends, which is probably to your benefit because you didn't want to be friends with those people anyway.

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Am I the only one who thinks Chihiro is a terrible person and has no sympathy for her? She comes up with multiple complicated plans to yank Ali's emotions around just so she can play up Ali's desire and force her to be the one to confess.

She lets her jealousy and desire control her actions, which itself isn't great, but on top of that, she does not care at all that she's intentionally and repeatedly hurting the one she supposedly loves.

It's super fucked up. I don't even want her to have a happy ending; she doesn't deserve it.

Virginity thing was annoying, and forced kisses are not great, but I still had positive feelings about it by the end.

That said, I'm usually desperate enough for the heartwarming feels from Yuri that my standards are very low.

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