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Pyoro
Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

Are we supposed to know these two? They just come out of nowhere and state the MC's as their targets as if we should know why?

See chapter 3 ... ?

Pyoro
Liberta discussion 23 Aug 03:08
Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

@luinthoron or it could be liberta's sister wanting to get her back because "daddy ("king", my guess) is on a rampage looking for you and it's annoying"

Some sort of obsessed/jilted ex seems kinda likelier, to me. Could of course also be that "King" here is used as a title and Eli just is that; irrespective of gender ...

Pyoro
Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

But it's not a stretch to assume that Himawari-san never updated any contracts and stuff, so naturally she'd still have a separate landline phone contract to go with her oldschool phone.

Doesn't even matter, they work on modern modems too IF those modem support the old dial method (pulse dialing). Which some do and some don't. Everything else about using telephones is basically the same it's always been anyway (though obviously you can't make use of advanced functions).

There's also some fake-retro ones that just look like the old phones but actually aren't. Don't see Ms Sunflower going for that but it's possible ;)

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

Super convoluted setup. I guess the gist isn't too hard to understand, but still. Quite the mess.

Historical setting are so good

Yes, modern times really miss those virtual cards that influence random people into doing random stuff ...

last edited at Aug 21, 2022 11:23AM

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

Since Koga doesn't know what happened, presumably she'll accidentally pull one of her smooth moves again. We'll see how Oosawa reacts now that she knows. And mustn't forget the guy being there ^^;

Pyoro
Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

Excellent. Now Matsuri can ask for permission to become Mrs Sunflower.

Pyoro
Liberta discussion 20 Aug 05:07
Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

Probably more of that "King"'s goons? I'd assume the girl from last chapter somehow comes into play, otherwise why introduce her ...

e: Duplicate p9 in the ch.22? Well, I guess it's a rough sketch of the same page ...

last edited at Aug 22, 2022 3:31AM

Pyoro
Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

Ditch the younger sister right now.

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

I get excited every time even though I know it's going to just be two pages and leave me wanting.

Very meta, considering how the villainess and the heroine seems to go about their sex life ...

Pyoro
Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

Really need some chapters with just the two of them now. Having the gang around is fun and all, but ...

Pyoro
Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

As others have said, he fell in love with her at first sight

What he's actually talked about initially was her photography. Specifically a picture she took of Ms Sunflower (because there's only a dozen people in that universe so of course). It's only later in the chapter that Miss Sunflower kinda connects the dots for him, and actually is basically a scene that's right at the heart of the conundrum: given that Miss Sunflower literally says she loves Ayame in it. But nobody would go "ooooooh" at that. It's just taken as some sort of female friendship affection. Meanwhile part-time-dude is embarrassed by the idea of being in the same category because of course for him it's immediately romantic.

Either way I don't think anyone's debating he isn't into Ayame. It's just that there's nothing there regarding her. He's there and useful and clearly she doesn't hate him, but that's about it ...

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

https://yokai.fandom.com/wiki/Kesaran-Pasaran

Yeah, I got an entire farm of those under my bed and behind my book shelves. Somehow they are growing without makeup powder though ...

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

So the get-drunk-forget-everything-cliche and the sudden-rival-appearance-cliche in one chapter, huh.

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

Eh, a m³ of water doesn't even cost a Euro - not sure what it's in Japan, but let's assume a similar range. So that's what, max. 10€? Plus probably actually easier to clean than sheets and beds and such, and while the water needs more frequent replacement the pool itself probably doesn't need nearly as much maintenance ...
... I mean, I'd find it sorta unrealistic because such a pool would be very, very heavy and thus expensive to integrate into a building. But if you got that covered I don't think it'd be too much of a hassle. Possibly the biggest hurdle just the time to empty it and fill it up again.

Pyoro
Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

it's been built up since way early on.

If by "built up" you mean "he exists" then, yeah, I guess you can call that romantic development.

I find it a bit annoying since it's the typical yuri-isn't-serious sorta vibe; where Ayame is obsessed with Ms Sunflower but obv. that's not to be taken as anything of substance. It was the same earlier on with basically all the various "pairings", only recently-ish it pivoted to take them as something more serious than "they are just being cute together".

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

Meh.

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

It’s the same way dramatic irony works. The readers know something’s up while the characters remain ignorant, which adds tension as we brace for an impact we know is coming. Shifts the tone a little, gives us a heads up so twists and changes don’t feel like they’re cheaply coming out of no where, and makes us wonder what exactly is going to happen that makes it all go downhill.

I'd argue it does the opposite of all of those things. It's just flat out "here is how it is", so you know all of those things in advance - there's no twist or change in the first place since the direction has already been announced.

At most it adds this fake tension you speak about, but that's rarely better than tension of the unknown. It's not like readers (as demonstrated in this thread) are so blind that they don't see that something is going on here without having it spelled out ...

last edited at Aug 12, 2022 8:43AM

Pyoro
Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

Still too much Nii-san and not enough Matsuri.

I sense artist limitations, especially with short-haired girls...

Might have been a bit of a gimmick, if we're being a bit generous.

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

You in danger, girl. Be careful making critical opinions about music around these parts!

You are only allowed to have an opinion on what comments are acceptable, that's what all the cool kids do. Having preferences towards music is totally cringe and uncool.

Pyoro
Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

I don't know. This felt like a very long chapter for very little, and that entire cliche "school celebrity" thing is a bit ... meh, even when dressed up in fantastical elements.

I do like the eye thing though. They are just occasionally fire, don't worry about it, perfectly normal eye things. (:

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

Ok yeah that is pretty cool but imagine how awkward it would’ve been had she missed

That would have been a 200% better outcome; the awkward moment where you know she's for once deliberately tried to impress and then couldn't. Would have indubitably be fiendishly cute.

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

I don't get why authors do this sorta "spoiler" for their own work ... I can't think of a single instance where it improved any sort of narrative. Just takes away any sort of curiosity about how things will work out.

Pyoro
Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

Also Shizuku digging her nails into Ichio's leg and then playing it like a guitar was the highlight of this chapter haha.

I'm sure it was meant to convey something other than sheer comedy, but if so, I can't say it succeeded for me ... xD

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

That chapter was just kinda weird.

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

That setup indeed was almost comedic in how "in your face drama backstory" it is so far. I really feel they missed a trick with her coming home to find her pet dog dead too ... oh, and also, it should have rained. All the time.