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Kazu-kun
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^ I think it would be better if Senpai won the contest. I'd like to see what Nene would feel if she found out Senpai won with a picture of a suffering Amane that she took thanks to Nene breaking her heart. Would Nene finally feel some remorse for what she has done? Would she feel regret that she pushed Amane towards someone who doesn't really care about her and just wants to use her suffering for her own convenience?

Nene has to talk with Amane and make amends, but rather than doing so because Kou's picture won, I'd like her to do it because she realized it's the right thing to do. That's why Senpai should win the contest.

last edited at Jul 26, 2019 5:04AM

Kazu-kun
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Never is a strong word. Talking to a friend... Like the way Amane talked to her senpai?

Yes. Her senpai being a nasty piece of work doesn't change anything. Talking to someone when you're dealing with shit can be pretty helpful all the same.

Telling her employers to "fuck off" would not have helped her situation in any way.

"Fuck off" was just an expression. The idea was that she shouldn't bottle up her feelings. She should voice her dissatisfaction and frustration, specially to the people who literally make her feel that way.

Distancing yourself from a situation and gaining a new perspective on things can be very beneficial.

That wouldn't help because her problem actually has nothing to do with Amane. She had issues from before she met Amane, and she would continue to bear those issues even if Amane wasn't around anymore. Nothing will change for her until she makes some effort to get over her shit.

If she didn't want to be in a relationship at the time then she shouldn't have been in one.

Except we know she did want to be in a relationship. She broke up just because she was running away.

I never said it did, did I?

But you think that way or you wouldn't feel the need to bring it up.

last edited at Jul 26, 2019 4:03AM

Kazu-kun
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As far as the "cutting ties for your own good" trope goes, I think this one had one of the better reasons behind it, since the problem was Nene's own terrible feelings-- which she was promptly disturbed by.

Cutting ties with Amane doesn't solve anything. The problem is not Amane to begin with. Nene had issues from before she met Amane. She has to face those issues.

last edited at Jul 26, 2019 3:39AM

Kazu-kun
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That would probably actually help if great mental health support was that easy to come by.

I'm not sure she's at the point of needing a shrink, but I think even talking to a friend about it would have helped. Instead, she decided to run away which is NEVER the right answer to your problems.

That's just plain horrible advice.

Not really. At the very least she should voice her mind about how uncomfortably she feels that they're telling her she shouldn't smile. It's because she bottled up her dissatisfaction that it ended up becoming a larger issue.

Agreed. That seems to be one of the things she was trying to minimize, but at the very least she could have handled the break up much better, while she gave herself some time to sort things out.

She shouldn't have broken up to begin with. She's just running away, and I will say it again and again, running away is never the right answer. You have to face your problems or they will just get worse.

Almost as if she'd been emotionally abused from a young age...

We know, but it doesn't make her actions any less disturbing and wrong.

last edited at Jul 26, 2019 3:19AM

Kazu-kun
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It's not really responsible what she's doing. She's seething with jealousy to the point she wished the person she genuinely loves was ugly or disfigured so she wouldn't be able to do what she does so naturally? You think she's actually going to become an even half decent person if she keeps that kind of complex without actually trying to better herself? Leaving Amane only postpones the problem -- If she gets that way over someone she genuinely cares about, imagine what she'll say or do to her colleagues as time progresses. Except she'll have nowhere to run when that time comes.

Exactly. This kind of psychological issues tend to grow over time if you don't deal with it. That's why she has to face it and get over it now when it's still relatively harmless. Otherwise, some years down the line she might end up attacking someone just because they had a pretty smile.

last edited at Jul 26, 2019 2:18AM

Kazu-kun
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It's a relief to find out that Nene's feelings for Kou are real

I wouldn't know how real they are. In the pictures Kou took of the two together, she wasn't smiling as brightly as she did with Amane. Maybe she does like Kou to some extent but I don't think she loves her like she loves Amane. That's what the pictures suggest at the very least.

But this also means more angst

I doubt it. Kou has made up her mind that Nene and Amane are her friends, and she's gonna do whatever she can to see them happy. I don't think there's gonna be any angst from her part.

last edited at Jul 26, 2019 12:57AM

Kazu-kun
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  1. They're kids

That helps understand where she's coming from but it doesn't make her sympathetic.

  1. It's pretty responsible to not be around someone for fear of being toxic.

It's not like the break up was for Amane's sake. It was for her own sake, because she couldn't deal with the situation. She was just running away instead of facing her problems.

I mean they're stuck in the same school what can you do?

Face the problem. Talk to Amane and tell her the truth. Get someone to help her get over her complex / psychological issue. Or maybe just tell the people who told her she shouldn't smile to fuck off. The one person she shouldn't have hurt was Amane who was a total sweetheart to her.

At least when you're an adult you can move away.

Running away from your problems is pointless. You never grow as a person that way.

last edited at Jul 26, 2019 12:46AM

Kazu-kun
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  1. They're kids

That helps understand where she's coming from but it doesn't make her sympathetic.

  1. It's pretty responsible to not be around someone for fear of being toxic.

It's not like the break up was for Amane's sake. It was for her own sake, because she couldn't deal with the situation. She was just running away instead of facing her problems.

last edited at Jul 26, 2019 12:35AM

Kazu-kun
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I find it hard to sympathize with Nene

I don't think we're supposed to. She's so petty and immature. I understand where she's coming from but there's no way I can sympathize.

last edited at Jul 25, 2019 11:03PM

Kazu-kun
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^ I like that scenario. I wouldn't want Nene to get Amane back without making any effort. I think it would be better if she had to fight for it, if she had to go above and beyond to win Amane back.

Kazu-kun
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Wanna bet Amane gonna forgive Nene as soon as she heard Nene said she still love her

I'm not sure it's gonna be that simple. I think Senpai is gonna try to win Amane over now. If Nene eventually decides she wants Amane back, she'll probably have to face Senpai.

Kazu-kun
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Things is, you're not supposed to defend her. You're just supposed to accept that she did wrong and hope she will manage to make amends before it's too late (provided it's not too late already).

Kazu-kun
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Shifting the responsibility from Nene to someone else would be a cheap way out. Making Nene fully responsible of her shitty attitude and bad treatment of others was actually a piece of good writing. The author deserves kudos for this. Good job, author-san.

last edited at Jul 25, 2019 9:40PM

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BU SHE WILL DO IT NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEN TO THE CONCOURS.

I hope so. She did too much damage already. It's about time she stops her bullshit and start doing something right for a change.

Kazu-kun
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Implying Nene don't suffer as well. Girl struggling with herself with her feelings and don't know what to do.

It's not the same. Amane is suffering despite doing nothing wrong. Nene on the other hand deliberately hurt people that cared about her. Amane is blameless, Nene is not. She did wrong and she needs to make amends now.

She need to a long conversation with Amane and Kou by extension. I think the two of them can help Nene to overcome that.

She already talked to Kou and there's nothing else to say there. She needs to talk to Amane. She's got to be honest about why she did all the crazy shit she did and why she hurt Amane. She needs to apologize. And she needs to make it clear if she's willing to go back together or not. Nene has to be honest and make things clear. Amane deserves that much at the very least.

Nene is not really a bad girl.

She might not be bad at heart but she did wrong and she has to take responsibility for that.

last edited at Jul 25, 2019 9:16PM

Kazu-kun
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At the very least, Amane deserves a huge apology for all this shit. She did nothing wrong and was treated like shit. And she didn't even know why all this was happening.

last edited at Jul 25, 2019 8:41PM

Kazu-kun
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Polyamory is a cheap way out for writers without balls. We don't need that crap here.

Kazu-kun
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It went exactly as I thought. Nene was just jealous of Amane's smile. That's all it was. Talk about being petty and immature.

Also, I still don't think Nene's feelings for Kou are the same as her feelings for Amane. I think the main reason she liked Kou is because Kou is a photographer and being the center of attention of a photographer made Nene felt special. She was confirmed to be deeply self-centered after all. Besides you can tell she doesn't love her because she doesn't smile naturally when she's with Kou, as Kou herself noted in all the pictures she took of the two together.

Now whether Amane and Nene can get back together, I don't know. Honestly, Nene should just quit being a model if she's not happy with how they see her.

And as I expected, the picture will be important. I guessed right that the picture winning the contest will play a key role in the story, and sure enough, it will give Nene the courage to be honest with Amane. We'll see how that goes.

last edited at Jul 25, 2019 8:27PM

Kazu-kun
Image Comments 07 Jul 11:09
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@BugDevil "Anne is way, waaay stronger than Grea (thanks to her magic)"

Not true. If Grea goes all out, she's stronger. Besides, her full power has anti-magic attribute, so in an hypothetical fight between the two. Grea would have the advantage.

Kazu-kun
Saki discussion 30 Jun 18:01
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We are now no longer incomplete! (hopefully). I'll do some housekeeping on the series page later tonight.

Going back to chapter 1 made me remember how Saki seemed to have a bit of a crush on Kyoutaro back the. That's interesting. Although he belongs to Yuuki now.

last edited at Jun 30, 2019 6:02PM

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doesn't care about love too

That seems more likely.

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^ It really doesn't look like denial to me. Yuu from Bloom Into You was in denial; you could tell because her thoughts and her actions where somewhat at odds. Shimamura seems more like she's just not interested.

last edited at Jun 27, 2019 4:39PM

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Yeah, I think this is a big chapter for explaining Shimamura's viewpoint. She's just scared.

I'm not sure how the fact she's not enthused about the possibility of Adachi having a crush on her means she's just scared. It's equally possible and actually more likely she just doesn't want Adachi to put the moves on her because she doesn't feel the same way.

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it really isn't actually one sided but Shimamura is going through it at a much slower pace.

It is one-sided. There is no hints that Shimamura feels anything remotely romantic for Adanchi at this point. I'm sure that will change. But right now it's 200% one-sided.

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Not really liking this. The relationship is too one-sided. Adachi is head over heels but Shimamura only considers her a friend. That might change at some point but in the meantime this thing is pretty boring. The characters aren't interesting enough to carry the story without any actual romance to spice things up.