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Scratch that!
I have fallen into the black hole of pessimism, having read on the insinuating remarks on this thread.
But now I see a light ray seeping through the black hole, and have slowly following its path to get out from it.
I now think it is really possible two surviving females are able to reproduce and flourish the population of the world (IF the population has come to an extinct, and this will be the last resort to flourish back the population), having read the article about Reproductive Technology.
It seems that in real life, there was a research investigating the possibility of same-sex procreation by creation of either female sperm from the genetic material of a female or male eggs, which contain the genetic material of a male. After years or research, they found out that the idea of female sperm became more of a reality because they were able to create human female sperm using artificial or natural Y chromosomes and testicular transplantation. It seems that they have done a research, using mice, which allows two mothers to produce viable offspring as opposed to two fathers, though they probably already ceased these techniques.
TLDR;
With a book manual, extraction, lab testing and gene editing, then transplant it back to the body of mother, it will work!
So yeah, I don't think the mangaka of this story is spouting nonsense or make fun of it.
last edited at Jul 23, 2024 7:40AM
She's relating to the characters in the story. It doesn't feel like someone else's problem--it feels like hers.
I believe the flowers are supposed to be sweet peas.
Oh, I see.
Thank you for replying!
By the way, what does the MC mean when she said
...The feelings those girls had, the ones that had to disappear, or they had to give up on, it doesn't feel like someone else's problems.. ?MC and shop lady are basically speaking to each other in code.
SL: Here is a book you should read, which coincidentally (wink wink) is on the subject of GL. Allow me to call attention to a particular chapter, which reminds me of you (wink wink).
MC: I notice that this book that that you loaned to me is on the subject of girls having to give up on their true feelings (wink wink we're talking about girls who like girls but ended up in a heteronormative marriage that's what we're talking about here, right), which happens to be a subject relevant to my interests (wink wink).
Keeping the topic general and abstract but with oh so much subtext. That way there's no embarrassment if they're reading the room wrong, but they can say what they want to say if the other person knows how to parse it.
Oh wow! Thank you so much for your translation.
Now it really makes more of a sense to me.
Thank you! Truly grateful, thank you!
last edited at Jul 22, 2024 4:47PM
And as my “world without yuri stories” crack was intended to imply, there’s a curiously old-fashioned tone about this one, with “but we’re both sisters” taking the place of “but we’re both girls.”
I think I actually and finally get what you mean now.
It's like before same-sex union exists, in order to have the same-sex couple to be together, since they couldn't marry each other, therefore the only way to do so is to have one of them as their 'family', so that one of them could inherit property, or to take care of the other person etc.. if the other is unavailable or passed away.
I am, and will forever grateful that Morinaga sensei to take that big leap and decided to draw fluffy girl x girl with happy endings because not many mangaka does this genre during her days. She said that during her note after her Kisses, Sigh and Cherry Blossom that the sole reason she did so is because she loves drawing girls, and with that reason alone, I am forever indebted.
Without Morinaga sensei's works that bring the spotlight to this genre, there wouldn't be heaps of yuri mangas nowadays.
If anyone were to say who's their favourite yuri mangaka in the mid 2010s, Morinaga sensei is definitely within the top list, along with Morishima Akiko sensei and a few more.
I considered her one of the pioneers who bring forward genre yuri. She, together with a few other yuri mangakas push it, then other mangakas decided that, "hey, doing what we love and what we like isn't bad at all", and decided to join the circle.
We now could see a variety of mangas presented, and some great yuri mangakas who are better at working towards the script, storyboard or even the characters and the flow of development. We learn so many great pairings in and also interesting stories with some touches of yuri, and also discovered great yuri mangakas on our way.
Therefore, I really am grateful to Morinaga sensei, and she will forever in my top list, my favourite pairing being Hitomi x Nana and Akko x Mari.
So yes, I am aware that she used to draw H, but that's all right.
Everyone has their place to start.
Badmouth Morinaga sensei is a nono in Yuri circle.
Thanks to part of her contribution, Yuri is where it is now.
You may not like her works, or think that it's bland, but she has devoted fully on yuri and focus on writing story development between two girls who are in love with each other with no other side characters that go make the whole story difficult, just the easy yuri story of : two girls who love each other, that's it, and her stories are focused mainly on the inner development of two girls(which she is really good at expressing it towards her arts) : how they initially curious, deny, then slowly accepting the feelings and decided to confess and fall for each other (And we know deep down, it's relevant to us. Why? Most of us started out like this, and nowadays it is difficult to kind of getting this setting, because the other yuri mangakas will start incorporate some other elements, like adding side characters that are totally out of nowhere or even trying to deviate the yuri setting by making the story like two best friend forever, instead of what we have known yuri for : two girls who love each other.
If you really like Yuri in the first place, you would never badmouth someone who has given so much to this circle.
Else I suspect that your sole reason to create an account to express your disdain towards someone has other motives which are demeaning and simply pure evil.
last edited at Jul 24, 2024 4:53PM
Hoi! Why did both of you not lock the door before doing it????? 
And the story just ends there ?
What happens next? T-T
I just read the second chapter few days ago.
I thought that was the end of it.
I can't believe a refresh will get a third chapter today.
By the way, what does the MC mean when she said
...The feelings those girls had, the ones that had to disappear, or they had to give up on, it doesn't feel like someone else's problems.. ?
And dear Kiyoko san, I really hope that you live a life that's according to your fairytale.
I would be extremely happy for you TvT...
Does the flower plant imply that Kiyoko san is dead and she was buried as a small plant?
last edited at Jul 20, 2024 11:55AM
Nono its not sex, this is 'pro wrestling'
Right. Reference from Sisterism, I see.
No, they are not having sex. One of them is just trying to do a physiotherapy with another
last edited at Jul 20, 2024 11:22AM
I was confused the whole discussion about the mind control to make people fall in love with someone. 
I thought she cast a love spell onto her instead.
Am I.. not right?
The whole having sexual intercourse without consent thing reminded me of the movie Midsommar.
Now I pitied the guy who got picked by the girl.
She puts her p**ic hair into his pie and made him drank some kind of medicine for him to have intercourse with her.
And he ends up as a sacrifice at the end
last edited at Jul 20, 2024 11:11AM
Aiya! Just when the plot comes to a climax, it suddenly stopped. 
I'm waiting for the next chapter.
I wanted to know what happened next
Oh ch33, that's it for now?
I wish for more chapters 
Oh my goodness 
The love her sis has to her big sis is too extreme..
Speaking of the incest route, I still like Candy Boy the most
Citrus is good too, but for fluffiness, I'll go for Candy Boy
last edited at Jul 20, 2024 11:46AM
This manga has a lot of insights of what an Ero Manga industry is, which is pretty interesting.
And the first chapter where the female protagonist speaks it the way the title is really unique.
The opening is really fascinating.
This is a good manga, I can feel it.
I just noticed that Ch08 uses reference of real photos and pixelated+blurred to make its own scenery/background setting
o.o.. this is my first time seeing a real photo being used so, instead of making it as reference and draw it out
That's pretty cool 
Oh..and that setting : the rich x poor students setting, and then divided according to their background..T-T
I hope both of the division will soon be able to make friends together
sigh
last edited at Jul 14, 2024 7:49AM
Is it possible to rent an apartment or studio that's more likely to be a person staying, but there will be other "roommate" sneaking in and stay together? They still pay the rent together, it's just the person who signs the rent is one person...? Will that work?
Oh, how about an apartment that comes with two or three bedrooms setting? Will that be easy for them to rent it?
And not sure about Japan, but in my place, there's this co-living setting: it's like hostel, and that everyone shares bathroom, living places except that they get their own places to live, a small studio that is. Is it possible to have them stay there?.. But I know it's difficult to share things with people around so..
last edited at Jul 13, 2024 10:15PM
This is my first time seeing handsex in any Yuri manga. 
In before, I've never ever seen it depicted in any Yuri manga.
(Though I have seen it in real life how someone playing around with one's finger.. before)
This manga ... O.O
Her sensei is chubby cute little lady.
How does it feel like to hug a chubby little person? 
Maybe it will feel warmth, and that the warmth spreads around a person , and it makes the whole person to feel happy again?
ponders
Speaking of tofu burger...
Is tofu burger has the same texture as the real meat/chicken hamburger steak?
last edited at Jul 10, 2024 7:42PM
Kojima san, being able to cry by watching a movie is amazing.
I can sense that you are an empathetic person who can feel the characters' cries, pains and emotions well.
That makes a person a person, a good person to begin with.
It makes you feel warmth on the inside.
It's a good quality a person could have.
I get that this may be Japanese culture but- 33 AINT EVEN THAT OLD. I'm still pretty young myself and will joke around saying "0mG 30 iS sOooo oLd~ I lOvE AnciEnt ArtifaCts~". But the amount of times I've seen people in Manga who're 28-34 consider themselves "old" is just so odd to me lmao
I have a feeling that, saying 33 is old , presumably about the age of having kids.
Because I read somewhere, and there's a kind reader pointed out that basically after 35, you're at high risk of having babies. 
And so, that makes me conclude that when they talk about 33-35 is old, they meant 'old to have babies'.
Just my two cents though.
p.s. Takagai san is considerate.
She knows that Shiina san is uncomfortable to stay in the same room with a person who just confessed to her, therefore decided to stay in a different hotel instead.
That is so sweet and nice of her.
And about relationship, my mindset is pretty much Takagai san (though I'm in my mid 30s too...)
but I never once thought about probing into the mindset of a woman who is really in her 30s (not mine, because my brain is a different thing)
So knowing how Shiina san reacts and how she thinks is refreshing to me.
It makes me realize
"Oh.. so that is what they think about. When they talk about relationship, they are serious, very serious about it."
It seems that to them, once a person is in 30s, the relationship needs to be serious, therefore marriage interview about a person's wealth , body health, etc. Then there is also the children thing.
Oh, is that the reason why when they decided to get into a relationship, and wanted to know if the person they are dating with isn't going to waste their time, they can totally go for the sex route in their first date to confirm if the person's intention is true or not?
Then it starts to make sense to me now when a woman found another woman attractive and decided to confess to be together, they don't take things slowly. They could confess on day 1, then if they clicked after confirmation, could even get married on second or third day..
It starts to make sense to me when I watched real wlw vloggings and they talked about their love life experiences. One confessed that she might know her wife (they are married) for some time, but got serious and confessed, had their first date, and decided to marry each other on their third day.
Thanks to the mangaka of this series, and also this story, it really brings me a whole new insight of how a 30 year-old lady thinks in terms of relationship, and how it leads to marriage and kids.
Interesting.. definitely a different perspective about relationship.
Oh and one more!
May I assume that, if a man gets involved with a relationship of two women, one who is around 29 reaching her 30, and another is around her early 20s, he will end up choosing marrying the younger one?
Oh.. tears for the last page (T.T )...
last edited at Jul 10, 2024 4:23AM
Oh wow, I like this.
It's very creative to have compiled different short stories together and put them in one title.
Neat.
Maybe she'll burst into flames if she's not married by next Friday. The gods are truly cruel.
Oh my... 
If that's the case, we'll assume the mangaka to have a one whole page of Asako's drawing getting burnt in live .
Time to suggest the Tragedy tag here..
The gods are just fed up with useless lesbians and have decided to intervene
May I ask the gods, what should lesbians do so that they are not useless?
She'll turn back into a pumpkin
Great! At least the useless lesbian becomes productivity simply by turning into a product...
It may seem odd, but there really are people who set arbitrary deadlines for themselves or assign a lot of meaning to anniversaries and dates from their past. Especially when it concerns family members, and especially when they're obsessed with / unfulfilled in their relationship with that person. It wouldn't seem strange to me that Asako, who doesn't seem to spend a lot of time allowing herself to experience emotions, has those kinds of symbolic dates in her mental and emotional landscape.
Oh, I understand this. I used to not understand about people talking about how they want to achieve something by 30, or in their mid 20s..
Actually, I still don't quite understand now.
Because I was taught that, we have our own pace. Somewhere, somehow, definitely, slowly but surely, we will get to a point where we understand what we want and we will pursue it according to our own timeline..
last edited at Jul 9, 2024 11:16PM
I can understand Zhang's intention to getting a lavender marriage with a man.
Zhang cares deeply about her family, and that her grandma is her precious out of all. 
With her grandma's health condition getting worse year by year, and Zhang's intention to get married may have something to do with 
(1) a superstition saying that bringing a marriage to home will bring luck and also health to the old people
(2) her grandma's wish is to see Zhang marriage before she dies
Whatever Zhang intention is, in Chinese culture, those are the valid reasons most sexual minorities decided to repress their nature and get themselves married, which is sad but most of them were really like that..They can't just 'be themselves'..they will be shunned by the society, losing jobs, losing friends, losing $$..it's too much of a risk.
Though I admire Dai Yi's courage of her revealing her sexual orientation to her family at the very beginning.
But in reality, most people who acted out like Dai Yi to their family are mostly getting backlashed.
Some of their moms would even threatened to kill themselves so that their daughters/sons could 'get back to normal' and 'get married' and have kids.
Even though their children already have a same-sex partner.
They would berate the partner, threatened and even locked their children away from their partner so that their children would obey to them.
If you happened to be active in Weibo and see the young ones' confession about accidentally out of closet due to some unforeseen circumstances, you'll see most of their parents will be infuriate and threatened to cut off their financial support so that their children will 'go back to the right, heteronormative path'.
That being said...
If DaiYi could understand Ms. Zhang's intention, what would happen?
I wanted to know if DaiYi would get near to Ms Zhang. But if that happens, what will happened to both of them?
Since it's clear that Ms. Zhang got herself into the marriage because of her grandma..
In Weibo, when someone consults about their relationship affair about the other half decided to get married out of societal expectation, but said that her other half promises that she is still the one she loves, everyone in the comment berated the person back by saying:
 "But you do know that, your other half decided to get married. Once the marriage is valid, it means there will only be one : they are husband and wife, and you? You're just a third wheel, or a 'mistress'."
So what will happen to both of them if they decided to be together?
I don't think Ms. Zhang will cancel the marriage just because of DaiYi.
Afterall, she gets married in the first place because of her beloved grandma..
It may be due to cultural differences that some don't understand why Ms.Zhang does that, and as a result, they find Ms. Zhang's decision to be quite a selfish act.
To be honest, at first, I don't understand too.
But with all the pressure and responsibility bringing to their shoulders.. unless the young-mid generation of their society believes that love has no boundaries and shouldn't' be based on genders, and decided to have a change about this, they will always end up and stuck to this infinite loop. There will always be someone who will end up getting hurt, either by being themselves, or losing something, like family or their loved ones, or conform to the societal expectation.
Basically it's like once they reach to a certain age, they are forced to pick and choose and throw away something in order to have the thing they consider the most important to their lives. 
It's like the society is telling them -- You simply can't Have it All .
But most importantly is that, do their society want a change on this?
Or that they are absolutely fine to see some suffer, because to them, the importance of having population > love is what they should conform to, as it had always been?
But marriage is a complex issue. Most people are straight but they choose not to get married and have kids.
Yet they choose to blame the issue to the sexual minorities, who apparently get married and some even decided to have kids.
I don't quite get their logic at all.
They seem to just want to have solved the issue through a lazy manner by just pinpoint on the not so obvious. 
Like instead of solving the obvious reasons why they aren't married and have kids, they go with
"Let's just blame on certain people because they are the ones that made the whole population go down."
"Let's just make these people feel bad for being who they are."
But, is that really the case?
I don't.. understand all of these anymore.
insert sad face
Whatever these two decided to go for and how they are dealing with their current issue, I'll root for them as a reader.
After all, the reality isn't.. giving much option for people to live however they want to live without possibly throwing something away..
I really do wish people live happily through finding ways of what they considered happiness..
But..
Sorry for the rant. I hope you all are doing fine and well.
Take care and have a good day.
last edited at Jul 9, 2024 11:03PM
So, from what Asako san's monologue, may I assume that something is going to happen to her life once she turns 18? Is it something to do with arranged marriage?
But I have to agree on something: you'll want to kiss someone when it's time, and naturally.
You'll know when to kiss..
I wonder why there is no research about this. Like, when is the right time to kiss?
Does your body just know if it's the right time to kiss?
And hopefully, there is a research about it and the starting line it goes with this:"Apparently, your body does know when the right time is for kissing!.."
I've been thinking..
Kirara san looks familiar.. until it reminded me of XXXHolic..
Speaking of the bread memorization thing, it only reminds me of Doraemon's tool . Copy paste the answers on the bread and eat them so Nobita can remembered them..
last edited at Jul 8, 2024 6:19AM
If Angel was expelled because she falls for another angel who happens to have the same gender as her...
Wait, that doesn't make any sense. 
Shouldn't angels genderless..?
But if I'm Haruka, I wanted to help Angel to find her own place. Or that, if there's anything I could do so Angel San can go back to wherever Angel san belongs to..
Angel san, what should I do to send you back to where you are?
Wah.. that's really some serious defamation going on to the girls. They worked so hard for their position and they were being insulted for things they never did? ... :( 
Is that applicable to the real life world too?
That's terrible :(...
But uh... I think that goes overboard though, Ayaka San wears a wig and pretends to be her former manager. It's cruel. Anyone would get upset if they made fun of their past about people they cared about dearly.
Ok, that divine intervention thing is starting to brick me. It reminds me of lots lots negative memories..ugh, this painful feeling and memories...*sigh*
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