the only one I really wanted to kill is Euron Greyjoy.. he really needed to ruin my Yara and Ellaria Sand sexy time !! :(

You want to burn his ship?

nah nah.. I would love to do it how the Mountain finished Oberyn Martell

gosh.. what if we were to argue George R. R Martin books.. you may want to burn his house XDD

Lol then yoonie won't be the only arsonist around here XDDD

the only one I really wanted to kill is Euron Greyjoy.. he really needed to ruin my Yara and Ellaria Sand sexy time !! :(

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Thank you, Nora, for all you do for this manhwa and fans of it. :)

anytime my lady. :* .. I enjoyed it

Vanbun

I wonder till this chapter, how many still believe there is a chance for seju x sumin? Beside sia ue.

You are forgetting me XD

Orange

Seaweed, thanks for doing my sungji justice.
I love your long-ass ass-ay lol

I enjoyed pantating around.. anytime sticky sticky rice-o chan XD

yoonie
I understand why there is no argument that could justify Sungji's deed.. but again, fair is not what Sumin really needs after her 32 breakups.. she must've learned something or could see a pattern.
as to Sungji's words that she won't let the person she loves hurt anymore.. hahahhaha
how do we define hurt? what hurt did Sungji think Sumin suffered.. even better, what hurt did Sungji spare Sumin ?

Kami Sama

I wouldn't say WDTFS is a "clever art"

that's why I asked you for recommendations before.. to see your bench mark.

but imo they left a lot of things too ambiguous or vague, particularly when it comes to portraying their character's emotions or thoughts.

that's a part of what clever art is.. unpredictability even though you have everything handed down to you.. but not fed how we used to.

gosh.. what if we were to argue George R. R Martin books.. you may want to burn his house XDD

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I mentioned that: Sumin knows why Sungji broke up with her.. I decided to collect these scenes to remind you why I think she already knows.

http://imgur.com/a/cHqNc

ah.. alright, I remember reading something about how Team Gaji use visual cues instead of telling a thing directly. Well, this is a visual art, just like caricature the deeper the meaning in the image and the less wording used, the more clever the art is. Gaji, the artist, spent a great amount of time transferring the author's ideas into an image we could understand while putting her trust in our appreciation. Her art is sophisticated with emphasis on body language more so than on a voice over (i.e thought bubble). If this art was simpler, I wouldn't have bothered reading something that doesn't move or challenge me, and I guess you also feel the same.

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When did Sungji really reach her conclusion about her relationship with Sumin?

If you are Sumin, you would think that she did it out of nowhere in ch90. But because you are a reader who saw Sungji interacting with Seju and Sungji with her sister in Law.. then Sungji with Sumin and Seju, it makes sense that you have a better estimation than Sumin's.

Let me summarise it chronologically:
ch79, Sungji and Seju:
Sungji: why do you have to act like such a bad person
Seju's answer: http://imgur.com/a/1ucY4

but then Seju asked her an important question: have you ever felt like that before?
Sungji's silence isn't because she doesn't know the answer.. and the answer is in ch62 http://imgur.com/a/CPjzX

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BUT, was Seju really a bad person to Sungji? Sungji's sister in law gave her another perspective: ch82 which led us to:
ch83: Sungji realises Seju's pain.. tries to understand where Seju comes from. Sungji who was told by Sumin that she hates Seju too, is now telling Seju that Sumin doesn't hate her, nor does she wants Seju to disappear. Sungji heard and saw the worried Sumin about Seju.
here where yoonie and I went head to head ch83
http://imgur.com/a/KSCUu

and again: ch90
http://imgur.com/a/WnmCi

What Sungji meant originally in here, it wasn't the cake.. but the current situation between the three:
http://imgur.com/a/cAA3i

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Let's now move on to the birthday party in ch84:
Sungji saw the interaction between Sumin and Seju she got the following;

1. Sumin doesn't drink when Seju does
2. Seju doesn't get violently drunk
3. Seju never forces Sumin to do anything she doesn't want to
4. even if the other person is drunk and Sumin was drinking, Sumin would still rationalise sex and fight the temptation

-> the cheating that Sungji saw in ch55 was by Sumin's full choice.
-> Sungji realised something to a point she got drunk for the first time ever and expressed to Sumin what she needs, her fears, and in ch85 her insecurities (why do you like me.. what is it in Sungji that Sumin would date her for instead.. Sungji needed Sumin to tell her that she needs her.. this is why Sungji dated and accepted Sumin back in the first place)

Later on; we know that Sungji doesn't need to forgive Sumin to be with her.. she loves her, but cares that she won't be hurt again (by Seju that is)
again, Sungji knows.. Sumin would feel guilty towards Seju even more than she would feel conscious about Sungji's feelings about this matter.

What is it that Sungji was thinking about alone in the balcony in ch89,90?
she asks Sumin another question and gets a false assurance:
http://imgur.com/a/LPIDH

Sungji feels guilty that her love for Sumin would make it so hard for her to let her go, she apologises for it:
http://imgur.com/a/KYUOf

she again, asks Sumin for everything she enjoyed about dating her.. the kisses, the intimacy.. a date. before again she sees that her holding on to Sumin would only make both of them suffer:
http://imgur.com/a/YNgze

Sungji knows that it would never be over between Sumin and Seju.. what would she tell Sumin really? ask her for another assurance ? or an apology? Did Sungji really run or let Sumin go for a reason that Sumin knows very well.

what I wanted to say all along, Sungji knew that she can't sever the bond between Sumin and Seju ch77, and she can't trust Sumin either, even if she could forgive her. (the pillow and ch55). Her love to Sumin hindered her rationality, and she even felt sorry for that in ch90. Sungji didn't run away, she knew what should be done, and finally did it.

Sumin KNOWS why, but that's for another post.

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yoonie you are losing it XD
Anyways, Izz, you might think that Sungji ran or acted on an impulse because you never believed that she already knew what she wanted right from ch83. Then her decision became clearer in ch84.. I will touch on that later, but for now try to think about it.

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I know Sungji is being disliked for her action and I understand, but... She put up with so much beforehand. Most would've walked away long ago. Definitely no Mary Sue at least.

I don't know why I find myself drawn to loving characters that are greatly misunderstood.. now at least I find Sungji being misunderstood even by those who loved her more than I did.

I could picture it in my head... wouldn't another Sumin inner monologue be very fitting? Were you thinking something like that, Nora?

hahahha.. do you mean another thing like ch50 ??
that chapter is a masterpiece by its own.. the way Sumin hears voices of those who left the greatest effect on her.. was beautifully done. Do I want to see something like this again? YUP, anytime any day..
do they need to do it this way? I don't think so.

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Orange

I think this song would sound better with a baseline <3

I wish Sungji could get back to her senses and find you instead XD

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I know Sumin was not listening to the song, but it could fit... kinda.

hahahah, Sumin was busy watching Game of Thrones.. and I was peeping at her personal life XD

ah maybe Sungji was listening to this: Oh Wonder (Drive)
Tell me to shake it off and swing from the lights
But I can’t help but drive away from all the mess you made
You sent this hurricane now it won’t go away
And I promised I’d be there but you don’t make it easy
Darling please believe me
Cos loving you, loving you is too hard
All I do, all I do’s not enough
Count stacks of the routine lies
Funny how easy you could see my blindside
See I remember all the times you made me covered in crazy
I can’t forgot about the way you played me
Like I was never gonna change your world
It ended long ago so please just let me go

sia ue and Foxy

about the bartender incident, even if we say that Seju didn't sleep with him, Sumin herself believes that Seju once did. The scene with Ms. Choi in ch19.. Sumin imagines Seju in that position, enjoying herself with the bartender, and later we saw Sumin traumatised and pucking.. this is a very powerful scene. The call that Sumin made in ch27 flashback for Seju to hear the moans is also a revenge fueled by Sumin's insecurities.

What I wanted to say is, what we know is not necessarily what Sumin's knows. The bartender incident, how Sumin perceived it, affected Sumin deeply and well, plus other things like Seju's family and Sumin's pride. We can't exclude the "cheating" from the formula.

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sia ue

Sumin has been healed imo. She is not going drinking and sleeping around with any random woman like she did before. She looks like a person who just broke up, which is normal. Why do you think she still needs a healing?

Exactly!!!!.. this is very normal and doesnt require a huge fuss about it. Sungji seems to be at peace with her decision as well.

momonosuke
Ah.. me too, I only recognized GOT.. XD

I want to know Sumin's investment strategy. I wonder if she ever paid rent in the past 10 years

Getting a compansation for a scar and not paying rent for a good period of time XD

Orange and Vanbun
It is not the first time we know that Sumin does very well in Languages.. the flashback in ch56, Seju said that she did well in that.. and we know that Sumin also speaks good Japanese when she traveled with her co-worker.

But yuppp.. it could be foreshadowing to what will happen next and to where she would live.

btw..
the "I want to see" in this chapter can also be translated to "I miss you".
in here:
http://imgur.com/a/la3fK

here is the translation of the the autores tweets by meow chan:
https://twitter.com/MinoaLerano/status/902581598574358528

ah, he means "moncler jacket" not "moncler jumpers"

You ARE working on your thesis? O.o

wanna see my wite-outs ? XDD

Orange

Lol Nora you need to give me the winning lottery ticket for tomorrow XD

hahahha If I had one, would I be working on a thesis right now ? XD

dreaming about a yacht with naked girls and booze :(

yoonie

The last time we came up with something on our own, its the house not being in Korea, I think we are right about that now so I guess this time, its not also delusional at all? Lol

the only difference is that I took your advice from the last time XDDD

momonosuke

See why I don't waste my time citing? You need to reread from 54.

argh..you have a point.

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The ending will speak for itself when it comes.

you know what's sad? we write and discuss the logicality of many things, then comes a commenter who obviously doesn't know what was going on in the past arc to talk about plot holes and how some relationships are unfixable .. I mean, TG been repairing it for a whole arc and a half now. Sometimes it is not about plot holes.. but readers HOLE !

Through a long car ride, I realized... You could very well be right that Sumin may come to realize on her own, without a talk. (if that's what you were saying, correct me if I'm wrong).

yes, this is exactly what I meant.

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sia ue
I stand by your opinion and yoonie's .. it might have been Seju who she wants to see, even if nobody considers the "grocery shop and the TV" hints.. it is Seju whose Sumin is used to cry on her shoulder whenever a relationship goes wrong, This is not out of her character at all to begin with. (I won't argue about ch64 though, it was a special case)

Maybe though the one she called is in fact Nammi, same case in ch57.. it would be fun if we get a scene of:
Nammi talks to Sumin
Dawoon talks to Sungji

Orange

when I put those pieces together:

Although you know... it uses the wrist as much as the arm lol

AND

LOL spreading the love XDDD

wow.. I love spreading.. specially the word of the day: Legs XD

Izz
Chapters' pages are not numbered.. but you are looking for ch55 flashback of ch27.. and ch74 flash back.
Then look at Sumin's house arrangement and compare it to Seju's two houses in the past.

yoonie
I also was thinking of this what you mentioned about the TV and grocery shopping.. but won't use it as a tool for discussion. The next 2 chapters shall unfold this soon enough. XD

yoonie

No, if Sungji indeed gives Sumin a piece of her mind of not running away from her feelings, simple "TL nim, this time, le'ts not running away from your feelings longer, I will give you a break for you to think things through and decide. Whatever outcome would be, I'll accept it"

This is what you want.. but not what Sumin needs.. not what Sungji thinks it has a point anymore.

Yes, and do you really think that leaving her like this could make her honest with herself? Again, can you understand that? That right now, instead of giving Sumin time to sort her feelings out, she is giving Sumin misery and pain for losing a person without knowing reasons. Sumin is not sorting her feelings out, she only focuses on 1 feeling only, pain and misery.

yes, she needed that.. after all her sadness and shock are gone, only the truth remains. I don't want to repeat myself, but I truly think that Sungji knows that Sumin would deny the obvious (saying that she hates Seju in ch77, but later Sungji knows that its not true in ch83.. Sumin saying that she doesn't care anymore ch90, but that's also not true) .. Sungji needs no apologies anymore from what she reached.. and Sumin doesn't need explanation to what she knows from ch50 but would still fight unreasonably. So yes, the sadness, guilt and fear will vanish eventually..

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kami-sama

I'm just not really a fan of TG's style of show, don't tell narrative.

could you please suggest better authors with interesting stories please ?

anyways.. I do think it is Dawoon who called Sungji in the last panel, Sumin calls her normally: Sungji-ssi (even this chapter) seldom she calls her Sungji-ah (maybe only when they were having sex).

but Dawoon does call Sungji, Sungji-ah.

if Sungji refuses Sumin's calls, why doesn't she look frustrated or angered by the other person's call.

yoonie

you are forgetting Sungji's face in ch83,84.. she saw, heard and knew things.. to a point that she got drunk for the first time ever and during the night she kept asking Sumin why she liked her in the first place.

I want to make this short as much as possible.

• we will hear Sungji's mind but not necessarily directly to Sumin.. maybe she would talk to Dawoon about it.. (if it is indeed Dawoon who appeared in the wedding)
• In explaining to Sumin what's up.. Sungji knows that Sumin would run, deny and apologise .. give her some more affection out of guilt before Sungji could see Seju again in her eyes.
• should Sungji really tell Sumin how "Sumin" really feels and how she treated Sungji .. or is it for Sumin to understand?
• Does Sungji want to give Sumin another chance? didn't she already give her in ch67? how did that turn out ?
• Does Sungji need an apology.. an excuse ? a promise.. or an explanation ??
• why does she need to talk to Sumin about?.. what would Sumin say, or do.. its been a cycle.. what I wanted you to see is this, this is where Sungji got the honest answer to her question: http://i.imgur.com/tkP3hfp.png

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Sumin doesn't need what's fair.. she needs honesty with herself.. it is not Sungji's place to tell her what "Sumin" feels.

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Now, Sumin said she tried hard as this was her last trial to make it work.. and Sungji's character was so helpful to succeed this time.. why did it fail then? THIS is what Sumin has to figure herself.

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We, the readers.. may also get what was going on but as I said, maybe not in a talk between Sumin and Sungji

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There is definitely unfinished business.

no, we got busy talking about how much I missed her XD the season finale of GOT XD .. I should've showed her my hand writing more often shouldn't I ! XDDD

yoonie

Hmm, what kind of car branch she hasnt driven yet? Hmmm, just in case I prepared for her grand final appearance of the story
Audi R8?

of course not, she showed up in ch71 driving a McLaren P1, the most expensive car among the other parked cars.. one of them was an Audi R8 XDDD .. a fraction of Ferrari's 458, Aventador or P1 price. XDDD

a Dragon maybe XDDD

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Everyone keeps saying "twist." XD I do not think it would be a twist.

hahaha.. depends on where you stand.. my girlfriend believes that it is heading to a Sumingji end game.. God, I am surrounded by team blond XD