So their friendship may not have been so special? Is that what this chapter's implying? Even so, can't wait to get some Tsugumi backstory

I doubt that. It seems like it was kind of secret or rather unnoticeable bestfriend(or more who knows) kind of relationship, especially with how timid Midori is.

Midori herself has said multiple times her relationship with Tsugumi was rather one-sided. She knew that she wasn't special to Tsugumi. So what the nurse is saying actually makes sense. If anything, I'm not sure where Haru got the idea Midori and her mother were close. No one ever said they were.

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really disappointed by the lack of development of sayaka, we didn't even saw her girlfriend, it's like she's no more than a side character now.

I thought she was getting a spin off from this series, I assume we see her girlfriend in that. Or was that just rumors.

Sayaka already got spin-off, it’s not a rumor lol. It’s just that it’s a light novel not a manga but Nakatani was the illustrator. There were already 2 books out, and the third book will be released on 2020. And we surely see Haru’s design on this 3rd book.

Later on Touko and Yuu finally meet the mysterious "Haru-chan" Sayaka has been dating and it looks, acts and sounds exactly like Touko

If I’m correct that it was Haru-chan in the end of the 2nd book, Sayaka indeed described her like a “dog”, and sort of lively... so she seems an opposite of Touko, more like Yuu probably.

And more importantly, when Haru called Sayaka "senpai," Sayaka got reminded of Yuu, who used to call Touko "senpai" as well. Basically, the novel makes it pretty clear Haru is meant to be Sayaka's "Yuu."

(Reply to Shojie's and this comment)
The vague description we got from Sayaka about Haru doesn't make her seem like either Yuu or Touko. A girl full of life, clothed in spring, a lot of movement, seemingly shy enough but still had the courage to approach Sayaka... yeah, definitely not a Yuu. Yuu is much quieter, not very energetic, a kind girl but can be blunt when the time calls for it. Haru seems more genki? Not totally but kinda like that (we'll find out later I guess...). Touko is closer personality-wise since she is a cute dork, but is still remarkably different.
I do agree that Haru is "Yuu" in a way- she will be the girl who will "save" Sayaka, but in a different way Yuu did with Touko.

I wasn't talking about personality per se. Just the feel to it. Like in this scene from the novel when Haru literally reminds Sayaka of Yuu:

“I’m in your hands, senpai.” The girl jokes lightly, moving to stand beside me.
“Senpai, huh…” I let out a little chuckle at the sound of the word.
The girl tilts her head a little in response.
“It’s nothing.” I had just recalled a certain junior whom I’d never be able to forget even if I wanted to. I say ‘recall’ but to be fair, we do still see each other once in a while. In fact, I see her more often than I see Touko. It’s easy for us to meet anyway. Not just physically, but emotionally.

Also, I don't think Haru is meant to "save" Sayaka. The theme the novel is developing with Sayaka is the she fucked up all her relationships because she was too passive and always followed others instead of taking the initiative. So having a little underclassman as love interest is meant to push her out of her comfort zone. For once Sayaka has to be the assertive one and take the lead.

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really disappointed by the lack of development of sayaka, we didn't even saw her girlfriend, it's like she's no more than a side character now.

I thought she was getting a spin off from this series, I assume we see her girlfriend in that. Or was that just rumors.

Sayaka already got spin-off, it’s not a rumor lol. It’s just that it’s a light novel not a manga but Nakatani was the illustrator. There were already 2 books out, and the third book will be released on 2020. And we surely see Haru’s design on this 3rd book.

Later on Touko and Yuu finally meet the mysterious "Haru-chan" Sayaka has been dating and it looks, acts and sounds exactly like Touko

If I’m correct that it was Haru-chan in the end of the 2nd book, Sayaka indeed described her like a “dog”, and sort of lively... so she seems an opposite of Touko, more like Yuu probably.

And more importantly, when Haru called Sayaka "senpai," Sayaka got reminded of Yuu, who used to call Touko "senpai" as well. Basically, the novel makes it pretty clear Haru is meant to be Sayaka's "Yuu."

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Later on Touko and Yuu finally meet the mysterious "Haru-chan" Sayaka has been dating and it looks, acts and sounds exactly like Touko.

The funny thing is that she's actually more like Yuu than Touko.

Kurasume unlocked the incest route. Now it's just one more step to get the oyakadon threesome. Go for it, Kurasume.

so they are dating again? Not very clear

No, this chapter was a flashback. You can tell because

1) Aya has short hair in this chapter while she has long hair in the present time.
2) Aya and Risa are still in college here while they have long graduated in the present.
3) Aya has a very innocent dream of getting married in this chapter while in the present time she's divorced and shaded.

So basically this whole chapter happens before they broke up.

last edited at Sep 1, 2019 2:26PM

Woah Aya finally said yes to a relationship to Risa and now they got "married" :O
The chapter is so cute but it still remainds us that people cannot always marry the one they love...

Nah, this chapter was a flashback from before they broke up. Note Aya has short hair and they're still in college.

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It should be noted that Japanese is a deeply contextual language so there's a lot that is understood without being spelled out. English isn't like that so you probably need to add "at your house" to make the line flow properly. That considering, 4s' translation seems on point.

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Otherwise (* for unknown character)

したいです お泊ま*が

お泊まり (otomari)

Some times the り character has the curly thing as shown in the manga.

Anyway, お泊まり means sleepover or overnight stay. したい means I want to do. So basically she's saying I want to sleep over / I want to stay overnight.

Thank you, adds a little more to my knowledge base. I assume this is a common change to り

It's pretty common indeed.
https://www.google.com/search?q=hiragana+ri

So, which translation is more accurate?

• "I want to sleep over with you" (Kusoshop)
• "I want to stay over at your house" (4s)

Because the implications are not the same. First case, she just want a sleepover, second case, she invites herself in someone else house.

I kinda find the 4s translation weaker this time. "Please do your best" vs "Break a leg!"... Meh... I can't imagine Yuu saying "Break a leg!"

I don't have the original to compare.

Original can be found
https://imgur.com/a/6Uynnpv

I was trying to just put the text into the discussion but Yuu uses a curly h I cannot find the Uncode for if anyone has any ideas what that is please tell me.

Otherwise (* for unknown character)

したいです お泊ま*が

お泊まり (otomari)

Some times the り character has the curly thing as shown in the manga.

Anyway, お泊まり means sleepover or overnight stay. したい means I want to do. So basically she's saying "I want to sleep over" / "I want to stay overnight." Adding "at your house" in the translation is okay. I feel the English line wouldn't flow well without it.

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When Natsu kissed Ayu in Haru's body, it was because of an accident (i think she was going to fall or something like that.) And when it was solved, Haru said that she didn't care because it was her body, but she would've hated it if it happened in Natsu's body. When Natsu heard this, she realized that both of them thought the same way and that they only wanted to do it with each other.

Well, you don't know of this incident won't lead to some development between Natsuko and Haruko next chapter. I'd say we should wait and see.

There's no reason to be pissed about the kiss. Natsuko was kissed by Ayu before and no one complained. It's a meaningless kiss anyway. It doesn't change anything.

But you can't know that

I do know. Like I said before, this manga is pretty predictable.

In the end I am sure that the conclusion of this manga will be to know with whom nene will put himself in a relationship (or not) kou or amane.

You're totally missing the point of the manga. Who Nene ends up with is a secondary concern. The main point is that Nene has a huge complex about her smile (or lack thereof) and hurt Amane badly, and now she has to get over her shit and make amends.

Also, Kou is not even a love interest for Nene anyway. She made it clear she sees both Amane and Nene as friends and wants them to be happy.

If a couple is formed out of this mess, it's gonna be Nene and Amane, since Nene still loves Amane more than anyone, and Amane clearly loves her too. Also, let's face it, Amane is the character who deserves a happy ending more than anyone after all the crap she has gone through despite doing nothing wrong. It would be massively unfair if she gets screwed over more than she already has.

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For me senpai is only a simple antagonist of kou, her opposite she takes pictures of sad or desperate people as is a little nene by the way...

There's more to it because she outright manipulated Amane. This sets the stage for Nene to do something about it.

Certainly part of the story will focus between the confrontation of photos but I come back to the real love triangle that will be there between nene, amane and kou

There is no such love triangle. If anything, the Senpai / Amane / Nene triangle till take center stage now.

last edited at Jul 26, 2019 11:28AM

And you think that thanks to psycholgic therapy will come back and look in the eye as if nothing was with amane?

The key to resolve this whole drama is Senpai. What do you think is gonna happen when Nene finds out Senpai has been taking advantage of Amane's pain? Nene is gonna feel like shit and try to help Amane somehow, and that's how the relationship is gonna start to repair itself.

You may be surprised

Not a chance. The manga has been pretty predictable to me so far. I even figured out that Nene's whole reason for being a bitch to Amane was simply that she was envious of her cute smile like a month ago. It's pretty obvious where the story is going now.

last edited at Jul 26, 2019 10:37AM

You rely too much on the pictures

Because one of the main themes of the manga is that people aren't always honest about their feelings but their pictures always reveal their true feelings. That's why instead of taking what the characters say as face value, you have to pay attention to the pictures. Specially to the smiles because that's another big thing in the manga.

The development of the story will not be just "kou repairs the love situation between nene and amane", not so simple.

That's exactly what the story is about. And it's not gonna be simple with Senpai wanting to keep Amane heart-broken so she can keep taking pictures of suffering Amane. Getting Nene and Amane together is gonna take some serious effort.

last edited at Jul 26, 2019 10:29AM

It wouldn't be the first yuri manga to have the MC being the wingman. Kou is a photographer, and I think she will learn what true love is through her camera after getting Nene and Amane together and taking a picture of them as a couple.

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She really loves her but unlike amane it's recent and without any trace of regret.

Again, she barely smiles to Kou. There's no comparison with the actually happy smile she had for Amane. Think what you will but she doesn't love her.

It is and will be much more complex there will be a real love triangle and it is not at all sure that it will end so simply in a nene x amane reunion...

The love triangle is dead. There was never a true love triangle to begin with. Now that Nene has admitted the truth, the whole drama is about how to get Amane back from Senpai who will no doubt make a move on her now that she's heart-broken. That's where the story is going. It should be obvious for anyone paying attention.

last edited at Jul 26, 2019 9:59AM

she’s cutest when she doesn’t smile

I actually agree with that. lol

^ The pages you posted actually support my point. Nene barely smiles for Kou. There's no love there no matter what she says. In this manga the characters' true feelings are revealed through the pictures and Nene's feelings are pretty clear.

last edited at Jul 26, 2019 8:57AM

She did.

She didn't. Just see for yourself:

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/luminousblue_ch08#1
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/luminousblue_ch08#20

Nene barely smiles when she's with Kou, but her smile is bright like the sun when she's with Amane. There's no comparison. She only ever loved Amane. She never really loved Kou. Even though she claims she likes Kou, the pictures show otherwise. Her smile reveals her true feelings, and her true smile is only for Amane.

last edited at Jul 26, 2019 8:34AM

replacing Amane with the first girl that put her on a pedestal

She will have go out with the photograph woman then.

The photographer woman is one of those who keep telling Nene she shouldn't smile. Nene hates those people.

ended falling for real

She didn't. That's why she couldn't smile naturally when hanging out with Kou. Kou noticed right away when she compared the pictures. Their relationship was dead on arrival since Nene's heart wasn't into it to begin with.

last edited at Jul 26, 2019 8:01AM

As flawed Nene is, all this is inform by her life experience

Informed or not, it doesn't change the fact that what she did was wrong, which is ultimately what matters.

Last thing about Nene, simplifying her moderate love for Kou to her position of camera girl is cheap and unfair

It's true though. Nene's "attraction" to Kou stems from the fact Kou, being behind the camara, will never compete with Nene for the limelight. All the opposite, it makes Nene the center of attention which boosts her ego. Nene ran away from her problems and tried to cover it up by replacing Amane with the first girl that put her on a pedestal. Kou is just a convenient and easy way out.

last edited at Jul 26, 2019 7:34AM