I definitely like this more than either of the other two succubus high schooler manga on here.

The more absurd this gets the better it is.

"I had someone that did this for me but we parted ways"

I say an ex coming back is in the horizon

Maybe they got sick of playing unpaid maid.

Ethically id say this is a far cry from extortion, shes literally paying off her debt with things like hugs and gaming together, shes not forcing anything and the main character has definitely never been made uncomfortable or been raped as some people are claiming, you can still say no and not participate after a few beers as she had in this manga, she surely wasnt black out drunk, she was an active participant.

You cannot claim rape after a consensual activity either. Thats like lending someone your pen for a day and then claiming they stole it the next day because you're uncomfortable that some of the ink got used.

On a less serious note: The art is cute, i can already tell theyre gonna fall in love.

This is textbook extortion. "Do X for me or I will do Y to you" where Y in this case is eviction. Any consent given under this kind of duress is compromised. Hell, a relationship with your landlord would be a concerning power imbalance even if they WEREN'T holding back rent over your head.

That's literraly the 4th chapter, saying it's getting old is a bit soon.

If it only took 4 chapters for the humour to get stale maybe that means it wasn't that funny to begin with. We don't have to endure 30 chapters of the same mediocre joke before we can say we're bored of it.

Can we just let straight people keep the idea that having to play surrogate mother for a grown ass adult who is too lazy to do basic housework is romantic?

it's kinda uncomfortable how quick people are to gloss over the fact that Ingrid is kind of super racist towards a race her nation committed genocide against

Oh is this manga finally doing something interesting again? Maybe I'll pick it back up.

Does the main character live her life just over reacting to things? That's really annoying. Story is meh and characters are flat.

I've never really been let down by an idol, heck I've never even had any, but if I had one and looked up to them (like the way Ito looked up to Sumika, which was a lot) for being known as a popular, sweet, caring person, and it turns out they were even the slightest bit the opposite, I'm sure I'd be upset.

Also, we get a one-panel sized flashback, if I'm going to make assumptions here, it seems like Ito looked up to that girl in the panel but she probably turned out to be a rotten person, possibly even worse than Sumika, which maybe caused Ito's sensitivity to fake personalities.

If I had to choose a real life example (even though I know this won't be of the same degree as this story, since this is a far-far worse situation) but let's look at Michael Jackson. He was accused of molestation and people today are still arguing over this, over a decade after his death. I know my parents still have doubts about believing the allegations because he was such a big pop star, who touched many people's ears and hearts.

If she's already experienced being let down by the reality of a person she put on a pedestal that makes her less sympathetic because she's still putting people on pedestals and has apparently learned jack shit from that experience. The only sympathetic excuse for this behaviour is naivete otherwise it's just entitlement.

Yeah, further confused by it being sex she was getting something out of, namely leniency on her rent. Is prostitution under the influence rape? Is prostitution under duress under the influence rape? Like, it's clearly unethical from the landlady, but it's unclear exactly what form of unethical, and she's clearly trying to become a better person. I'd condemn the hell out of it in real life, but in fiction, kinda complicated, and people can change a lot more easy in fiction.

Coerced sex and sex with someone too drunk/high/whatever to give meaningful consent are both rape.

I'm quite aware of both of those facts. It's not entirely clear to me that she was too drunk to consent, nor that it was coerced. Prostitution is not rape. Again, I think it's bad, and the specific definition or form of badness is not clear, but it's not like her sleeping with her landlady because she couldn't make rent is rape in a vacuum, it's much closer to prostitution. And I'm not entirely sure how drunk she was (signs point to "too much" but still), but it is clear that if that was the only thing going on people would not be calling it rape. I believe heavily in consent in all manners of life, and it clearly was not here enough in this case, but the specifics of it are at least slightly muddied.

That's not prostitution, that's extortion. In fact the landlord threatening to evict someone unless they have sex with them is pretty much the default example of extortion rape. Even if she was stone sober the power dynamic between landlord and tenant is extremely inappropriate without any quid pro quo, that puts it well over the line.

I think it's pretty ridiculous what people call rape now. Rape should be only used in rare cases, applying it to literally everything that's uncomfortable/immoral just gets ridiculous. (And no I don't care what the law in certain countries says about this. Laws can be disagreed with.)

I think it's pretty ridiculous (and by ridiculous I mean grotesque) how far backwards people are willing to bend to pretend consent is a grey issue. Rape should be used in any case where an individual did not consent to sexual intercourse. You can't consent while you're blackout drunk. You can't consent when the alternative is homelessness. I'm not even making a judgment about the story I'm just insisting we call a spade a spade and not try to avoid that fact because it's uncomfortable.

I'm glad they veered off from the Pygmalion-esque set-up it looked like it was going for in the first chapter.

Yes, the representation of lesbians as predatory was really common in pop culture for a long period of time and has done a bunch of harmful things. They've moved on from calling lesbians predatory these days mostly to calling trans women predatory.

The irony of cis lesbians characterizing trans women as predatory would be funny if it weren't infuriating.

"It's me, yo boi Guzma"

I know the quoted sentence seems familiar to me from somewhere, but I fail to remember where from...

Pokemon Sun and Moon.

I wish Japan loved rape less.

This is the only love triangle I care about.

Sorry, I need to remember where the useless conversations are.

So any of the ones involving you.

Yeah, further confused by it being sex she was getting something out of, namely leniency on her rent. Is prostitution under the influence rape? Is prostitution under duress under the influence rape? Like, it's clearly unethical from the landlady, but it's unclear exactly what form of unethical, and she's clearly trying to become a better person. I'd condemn the hell out of it in real life, but in fiction, kinda complicated, and people can change a lot more easy in fiction.

Coerced sex and sex with someone too drunk/high/whatever to give meaningful consent are both rape.

So if you should ever encounter Landlady-san in real life, by all means notify the police.

Dude, I didn't even say anything about the story stop trying to start shit. I don't need another essay about how you don't think real world morality should have any bearing on my opinion of fictional characters.

Yeah, further confused by it being sex she was getting something out of, namely leniency on her rent. Is prostitution under the influence rape? Is prostitution under duress under the influence rape? Like, it's clearly unethical from the landlady, but it's unclear exactly what form of unethical, and she's clearly trying to become a better person. I'd condemn the hell out of it in real life, but in fiction, kinda complicated, and people can change a lot more easy in fiction.

Coerced sex and sex with someone too drunk/high/whatever to give meaningful consent are both rape.

Fans like Ito are why idol culture is the worst.

This isn't even a misunderstanding anymore at this point it's just Kanda being a liar and stringing Ookuma along. She's had multiple outs that she's just bolted right past.

Good luck getting me to sympathize with a landlord.

I having to turn on my suspension of disbelief to read this exactly because of that hahahha

I know it's utterly absurd of me but it really is the biggest drain on my suspension of disbelief here despite the rest of the heinous bullshit going on.

Good luck getting me to sympathize with a landlord.

Holy shit this is adorable.

Sumika's flaws really aren't jarring enough to justify the MC's level of disillusionment with her. The idea that she's a terrible person because she's somewhat thoughtless and self-absorbed is a pretty big reach.

This is literally just Nice Guy™ bullshit but gay. "Oh woe is me she just keeps dating chads why doesn't she realize how wonderful I am as I passively exist in her orbit making no effort to actually court her"