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Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016
  1. Linking comments with people, so the people that I tagged will know what I posted or maybe what I commented.

If you mean how to get hyperlinks directly to specific posts, rather than entire threads, the time stamp above each post (like "December 14, 2016 ..." above this one) also contains a hyperlink directly to that post. If you're using Firefox, you can right click on the timestamp and select "Copy Link Location" from the context menu to load the URL to clipboard. Other browsers must have a similar function...

last edited at Dec 14, 2016 11:39AM

Koveras
Bisexual discussion 14 Dec 02:18
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

OFC, NOT ALWAYS D;
BISEXUAL GIRLS AREN'T ALWAYS WRITTEN OUT TO LEAD TO HEARTBREAK AND DRAMA. HAVE SOME SWEET FUCKING SHIT
Ok this one is probs a little conflicting, cus depending on how you see it, you either have hope or feelsbadman

Thank you, Faust, for the single most useful post in this thread. :-)

Koveras
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Ex-played girl x protagonist it can be nice. Really nice

I can see it now. Ex-played girl comes across a heartbroken protagonist at the little restaurant that tutor takes all the girls to for sweets. She's crying and just staring at the untouched dessert, the same one she shared with her onee-chan when suddenly,

"--You gonna finish that?" It's the ex-played girl, offering her an understanding smile and sitting across from her. She doesn't wait for an answer. Instead she takes a fork and steals some of the dessert. "I was too wrapped up to notice before... but this is more bitter than I remember. Sensei is a harsh teacher after all, isn't she?"

There is a one-shot with a similar setup called "Rooftop Miracle".

Koveras
Sky Colors discussion 11 Dec 04:45
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

I'm definitely not complaining, but this seems to be a hi-res version of the older upload: http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/sky_colors

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

I don't know what to facepalm at first: the uber-serious, no-jokes-allowed attitude of some replies here, or the extreme naivete in the ways of the internet demonstrated by others. -__-

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

As much as I love tanks, that was just stupid. Seriously, live rounds?

The issue seems to have less to do with the ammo, and more with the armor. I hope the investigators find the "genius" who decided to cut down the expenses on the crew protection department. :-/

Koveras
Shimazaki discussion 07 Dec 02:14
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

As I keep saying, Shimazaki is one of those insane-but-in-a-good-way authors. ^^

Koveras
Rendezvous discussion 06 Dec 17:25
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Afterword was interesting.
. . . She thought this was shounen?!

Oh please, it was clear from the very first chapter that she is a special blend of crazy. :D

Koveras
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

^ I really appreciate your thoughts on this. I too would like to believe that it ended in a metaphorically happy way

and

Wow this makes A LOT OF SENSE all of a sudden. Thanks for this really thought out explanation.

You are both very welcome. I am glad you found my musings helpful. :-)

last edited at Dec 6, 2016 11:14AM

Koveras
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

I'm not getting the only one thing. Why couldn't original B-ko stay with clone A-ko? They are already dating and stuff, so what's wrong on wanting more and go further? What's the drama about making appearances and growing apart? ._.
Some people just can't let themselves be themselves and live up to their desires, I guess. They are liars who want someone to make their lie come true. And I don't get it

Assuming that the original B-ko is the one with the knife and the clone A-ko is the one who claimed original A-ko was the braids one, then it's quite clear to me that clone A-ko basically didn't have actual romantic feelings for B-ko, unlike the shut-in original A-ko who was swept off her feet. The line about "her feeling of liking B-ko was a little different than what B-ko was feeling" is usually a shorthand for romantic rejection: "I like you, too, but only as a friend." It's sadly a very common story.

My interpretation is that the "Kodoku Syndrome" is a metaphor for the postmodern understanding of personal identity, which means that the distinction between "originals" and "clones" is wholly artificial. Each of them represents a different facet or mindset of an entity we call "person", and none of them is any more deserving of being the dominant one in public (that is, snuffing out all others) than the rest.

If you instead read the story under the assumption that all A-kos and all B-kos are the same physical individuals, respectively, then it goes something like this: A-ko grew up as a shut in, then at some point, mustered strength to go outside and to make friends - in other words, her new outgoing personality supplanted the old shut-in identity in public, but unlike B-ko, she did not completely abandon her old self in some ways. In any case, this new outgoing A-ko met and charmed the equally shut-in schoolmate named B-ko, who, in a classic manner of teenage-hood, began suppressing her desire for A-ko out of fear for their hard-earned friendship. The repeated murder of "clone B-kos" is thus an extended metaphor for the constant self-mortification carried out by a person who suppresses her true desires on daily basis.

The whole "NTR double-date" scene in chapter 2 could be read as a really confused date between A-ko and B-ko, who, at first, showed each other the different sides of themselves who did have massive chemistry with each other, but then A-ko refused to maintain her shut-in facade and made it clear that she cannot love back the B-ko who cannot move on from her self-denying ways. Which doesn't necessarily mean that A-ko will fall for B-ko once she does move on, but this is strongly implied at several points, which have already been discussed here. In the end, I prefer to think of the conclusion as a happy one: there was no murder of the original B-ko by an impostor, it was simply her experiencing a catharsis and emerging as much more well-adjusted individual who does have a chance with A-ko, judging by the latter's reactions.

last edited at Dec 6, 2016 11:14AM

Koveras
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

http://imgur.com/a/TInCC
WHAT. THERE'S MORE.

Is it gonna be about the pos-graduates or the new Class Black, peeps?

Doesn't that just say that the final bounded volume is coming out in December? Chapter 47 is volume 5 finale, at least according to the Dynasty Reader.

Koveras
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

An old favorite of mine, I always come here to reread it once in awhile. It's kind of sad we haven't had any Natsuneko's work on Dynasty for a long time [if other yuri she has made, ofcourse].

Likewise, this one-shot is one of my favorite mangas ever, mostly because I am very partial to the (averted) suicide theme. Sadly, Natsuneko seems to not have been active for at least five years now, I don't have much hopes to see anything from them ever again. :-(

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Damn, what right does this manga have to suddenly get so deep? What Hinata says on pages 184-185 should be printed on T-shirts and made compulsory to wear at least once a week.

EDIT: I kinda wonder though, what kind of relationship Hinata has with her mother, if she chose to spend her mother's birthday with Neko instead? Or maybe Nya-chan's theory that Hinata is truly a manipulative chessmaster of the town who sabotaged Neko's bike really is correct...

last edited at Nov 14, 2016 2:33PM

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

But Neko simply is too pathetic right now that I kinda hate the author for it. Doesn't she has any useful ability and is capable in anything? She literally is leeching people kindness right now. I means it suprised me that she even know how to ride the bicycle.

I don't think that she is actually incapable of anything useful. It is just that, like many young adults, she faces the realization that the trade she has trained for garners no demand on the job market. In that situation, they must either build upon what they already know to rapidly learn additional skills that would let them integrate into the society, or shut themselves off from it entirely. Seeing how this manga doesn't seem to be heading in the Welcome to the NHK direction, I rather expect it to turn into a fantasy Bildungsroman.

last edited at Nov 11, 2016 1:54PM

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Hmm... The moment I saw the cake, I was like, yep, that thing's going to hit the floor pretty soon.
Sometimes I hate to be right.

The chapter title kinda gave it away for me, too. :-(

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

You're really just saying:

What I am really just saying is not that the representation of bisexuals in media doesn't immediately concern me and so shouldn't be discussed in my presence (which would be as idiotic as it sounds), but that this issue, while very real, is largely irrelevant in the context of this manga, for which several people here have already made a case, including MacySan just now. And yet many seem to read the manga's message "bad people have bisexual relationships, too" as "all bi people are cheaters" and get emotionally worked up over judgements /the manga has never made/.

If someone says "rape is wrong" for instance, I assume people tend to agree.

On the scale of wrongness, I personally believe rape ranks somewhat higher than misrepresentation of certain groups in media, and yet for some reason, only a couple folks here have pointed out that Kyouko assaulting Hana was very rape-like in nature, as well.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Can I not recognize the rashness of my earlier words without immediately renouncing my entire position, as well? I apologized for being shitty, which I was. My point -- that the ratio of reasonable discussion to disjointed proclamations of personal values in this thread is way off from what I otherwise encounter on this forum -- still stands.

last edited at Nov 7, 2016 2:55PM

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

So that's what Signum was like in high school. :D

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

I wonder what the reactions in this thread would be if Hana and Sayako had girlfriends instead of husbands. From where I am standing, it wouldn't change the core of the story at all, but at least the cries "bi people are misrepresented, whaaaaah" would end.

Now you're just being shitty. People can have concerns you don't, no need to belittle them.

I apologize for that. However, it's hard to take their concerns to heart if same things are being repeated over and over again in slightly altered wordings, and the only real discussion taking place here seems to be about how you and other moderators should do your jobs.

last edited at Nov 7, 2016 2:24PM

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

I wonder what the reactions in this thread would be if Hana and Sayako had girlfriends instead of husbands. From where I am standing, it wouldn't change the core of the story at all, but at least the cries "bi people are misrepresented, whaaaaah" would end.

last edited at Nov 7, 2016 12:40PM

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

This one shot was a brilliant, emotional roller coaster. So far, everyone in the comments has sided with the main character despite the fairly clear rape scene where she pushes down and pierces her old lover. She's reprehensible and gets her just desserts. A testament for how skilled the author is in guiding readers.

Finally, at least one person here also recognizes this. This manga doesn't say anything about bisexuals or lesbians - only about fucked-up people and their fucked-up relationships.

  • Hana is a lying liar who lies and doesn't give a flying fart about anyone but herself. She pretty much said in the flashback that she's only with Kyouko for the orgasms. It had nothing to do with her sexual preferences.
  • Kyouko is a passive-possessive jerk who gets a kick out of mutilating those close to her to claim them as her property and gets violent when they try to move on. It has nothing to do with her sexual preferences, either.
  • Sayako is a two-timer who cheats on both her husband and an emotionally unstable woman and apparently gets a kick out of being physically mutilated by the latter. Again, it has nothing to do with her sexual preferences.

The manga is a brilliant depiction of a relationship trainwreck, and the fact that it has caused such a massive emotional reaction here (not a positive reaction, mind you) is a testament to its artistic quality.

last edited at Nov 6, 2016 3:44AM

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

What did I just read and why did I keep reading? gg

Probably for the same reason people gather to watch trainwrecks.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

the "popular girls" are usually really nice and fun people when you get to know them

Most likely, that's why they are popular.

It's weird how uncommon such a logical thing seems to be in school life manga.

Koveras
Beloved L discussion 03 Nov 05:01
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Car number not allowed some days? Uh, streets must be really crowded in that place to add that system... (I don't need to tell just how polluted must be the air then...).

Skyrin posted a link to Wikipedia on that topic a few posts earlier. :-)

Koveras
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

As a friend of mine likes to say, old married couples don't actually have to be old or married. XD