I'm currently on chapter 6. And I got to wonder is this all there is to the manga? The one girl going to the other and misunderstandings happen over and over again. Cause it's already boring.

Well there is no accounting for taste, but at least get to chapter 10.

What no one is talking about its Nene herself, she was the one who called Amane out, kissed and broke up, the reason we don't know, but maybe she is just playing around that's why she called Taru out, coz she got a new challenge now, makes her in love. Maybe Nene noticed that lizard senpai had a crush on Amane and did it as a game...
If I am right, Amane x lizard doesn't seem a bad ship...

Actually we already did talk about that, but at least you are right about the Amane x Lizard ship.
Lizard x Everyone is the most peaceful endgame. Geckos are famous for avoiding cold wars.

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"You should not" is not the same as "you can't/aren't allowed to", come on.

Technically, no.

But, come on, it's typically the phrasing adults use to tell kids to not do something for their own good. In the context of having a friendship with someone, it's going overboard.

Most of the time i see that sentence in manga, "you shouldn't get involved with so and so", it's typically because the person in question is a "nail that sticks out" for various reasons, ranging from "they are a sexual deviant", "they sleep around" to "their family is poor/strange/not normal", and we can't have that kind of people around.

Maybe he's justified and since it's a flashback, we know that Asuka "suffered" because of the President, but every failure is a learning experience that makes you grow up and suffering is sometimes better than being sheltered, especially when it comes to relationships.

This is Japan we are talking about though, so anything beyond the norm is treated as undesirable. So it's not really something unexpected. Unless there are very specific reasons to not get associated with her, it might as well just be a standard warning anyone could give.

All I'm opposing here is the "authority" aspect. I doubt Jun meant it that way. It was just advice.

Maybe he's trying to warn her about something (hopefully, it's not about her sexual preferences leaning toward same sex), but "You shouldn't get too involved with the president." was poorly phrased (unless it's the translation).

It implies that he's got some some of authority over Asuka and that he's made the decision for her beforehand.

If he had just said something like "by the way, I think there's something you should know about the President...", it would have been more appropriate.

My guess is that she is playing around with a lot of people. Slut rumors are always bad. Well that's just one possibility, but I kinda doubt he is worried about sexuality here.

"You should not" is not the same as "you can't/aren't allowed to", come on.

I love mock battles where students can die. So logical. Much efficient.
Well forced edginess aside, this is kind of interesting. Shiina is certainly sympathetic.
I am bit tired of the "cute murder loli" trope, but whatevs.

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Kou already rejected a girl before and doesn't quite get romantic feelings (Bloom Into Kou?)

Kou doesn't reject anyone in the flashback. The girl who is seen crying is the one who has rejected the third girl in the photography club of Kou's middle school.

B (the third club member) confesses to A (the second club member). A tells Kou that she only sees B as a friend, and now she's torn as she doesn't know how to face her.

Note how Kou is quoting her. In the present, she wonders if things could have been different if she had known more about love, i.e. she regrets that she couldn't offer the girl any advice.

I completely overlooked the quotation marks. But to be fair, those lines would have worked both ways, so you see why I got it mixed up? lol

That didn't make it funnier, so your dignity was sacrificed for nothing BVster.
Not that anyone here has the high ground in that regard.

So unsanitary...

...unless we are talking about a food orgy please do not involve popsicles in this.

Can you really call a orgy without food a real orgy?

I was under the impression that we moved on from decadent Roman times, but then again, I haven't been to too many orgies recently.

...unless we are talking about a food orgy please do not involve popsicles in this.

Finding a natural way to convey such a large bulk of info in the present is not easy and usually encumbers a work more than anything.

What "large bulk of information"? So far I don't see anything that significantly alters any of the characters or the plot.

1. Asuka had a sexual awakening before she even understood she was a lesbian or loved her mom (pretty important psychologically speaking).
2. Miyuki was a childhood friend/acquaintance (although that was mentioned in the present time flashback first).
3. A bunch of stuff about Miyuki's character I'm too lazy to reiterate.
4. Jun knowing about Miyuki and having warned Asuka beforehand.

EDIT: Almost forgot
5. Rui trying to distance herself from Asuka back then so she could make new friends and wouldnt rely on her. Clearly something's changed since then.

Sure some of these are easy to integrate (Jun saying something like "I warned you about her back then" or Miyuki talking about their childhood and how meeting again in middle/high school was a nice coincidence). But the flashback also isn't over yet.

It's definitely more natural to show their dynamic back then than to just talk about it. Makes the (possible) betrayal more emotional, believable and crucial.

Well, it ranges from “assumes they’re going to be engaged” to instructions like “stay away from so-and-so—rumor is she’s a sexual deviant.”

I’m talking about the guys who exist mainly as yuri-blockers—from time to time we do see instances of the helpful male yuri wingman, and more power to them.

Well we don't know why he warned her yet, so that's still uncertain at least.

Cool, but Jun doesn't really fit into this trope at all. He had a crush on Asuka and confessed, but got shut down and accepted it. He also took her reveal about her incestuous feelings surprisingly well. Most people would break off friendship right then and there, especially in prudish Japan.

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But like Pyoro suggests, the “male childhood friend who thinks he has some sort of claim on the budding lesbian,” is one of my un-favorite yuri character tropes.

Well, would it be better if he was a girl?

also what the heck kind of claim are we talking about here? lol

If it's necessary to establish how we got to a certain point or what the connection to a character is, then how is it stretching anything out? I'd call it crucial information.

I prefer to leave these things hinted at or open to interpretation or revealed in the current time-line.

That can result in vague wishy-washy writing. Or for the latter, in exposition that has exactly the same effect as a flashback. A flashback has the advantage of actually feeling natural and a real story arc, rather than just something the characters recall and babble about.

Finding a natural way to convey such a large bulk of info in the present is not easy and usually encumbers a work more than anything. If you know a bunch of cases where it worked then those are pretty amazing.

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This is going to turn into a complete soap opera, isn't it?

I'm counting on it.

Alrighty. Some interesting tidbits in this one.
-Nene was the one who confessed to Amane, but she was also the one who broke up with her (by how they act now, one might expect Amane was the one who confessed).
-The model in the prize winning picture was indeed Amane, which might well have been the reason Nene broke up (at least something to do with it).
-I highly, very highly doubt Nene's interest in Kou is real. At least romantically speaking. Whether she is trying to move one from Amane through this or just wants to mess with her, who knows? Maybe she just feels bad for her.
-Kou already rejected a girl before and doesn't quite get romantic feelings (Bloom Into Kou?). The camera seems to be more of a defense mechanism at this point. Very interesting...
-It was still kind of vague before, but now it's almost guaranteed that senpai was and is in love with Amane. If she's not, then she might be something akin to her "muse". I wouldn't rule such artistic reasoning out in a manga about photography.
-Amane, as I already said last chapter, uses friendship as an excuse to hold on to her love. Very unhealthy and problematic, which makes Nene's actions a lot more understandable.

Nothing to truly sway me from my initial bets, but it's definitely more complex than originally expected. The author deliberately keeps the interactions between Kou and senpai to a bare minimum even though she was supposedly the main draw for Kou to even come to that school. Splitting up the thematically appropiate pairs could be a red herring or just a subversion of expectations, but either way I'm excited for more.

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Either way. Flashbacks. Even in my favorite manga they just feel like unnecessary stretching things out :/

If it's necessary to establish how we got to a certain point or what the connection to a character is, then how is it stretching anything out? I'd call it crucial information.

Hm, this is still a flashback, right? Guess we will find out the issue with Miyuki soon then. I think Jun might have the right idea, considering that we know how present Asuka thinks of her.

The focus on the hickey makes me think that Miyuki plays around and cheated on Asuka's feelings. Miyuki seems to think being honest with yourself is the best way and can tell Asuka is bottling something up. My prediction is that she figures out she is a lesbian, uses that to teach her a bit about it, but also plays around with other girls/boys, so Asuka grows to hate her and doubles down on her mother love.

Still Miyuki did clear up to Asuka what she felt for her mom.

Yeah, I want find out when the next bus leaves town and make sure Jun is under it.

Don't make hasty judgements before you know what he knows.

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^Yeah sometimes these pictures do exaggerate it. Sucking really hard leaves something like hickeys though, which some people find appealing or sexy (as in they mark their partner). So I can understand it in theory.

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If you do it in text form, at least make distinctive paragraphs. Even a shitty writer like me knows those basics. Flow of consciousness is never good form.

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Does "gay" even exist when there's no heterosexuality? Isn't it just "sexuality"?

Pretty sure it's still homosexuality.

This.
Let's not forget that animals still have two sexes. The terms don't disappear, as they are not specific to humans.

I can't handle horror movies at all. Double that where zombies are involved.

And yet, when I tell people that they often consider it a challenge and start trying to suggest horror movies that I'd like. So not doing that puts Hino several steps up in my book.

You should watch all the horror movies until your emotions die and nothing affects you anymore. That's the right way to live life, right?

But honestly zombies are the lamest monsters around

Well what you posted is no different from just copy-pasting a Wiki article. Then you also repeated obvious things and didn't put a single line break in there. It's not very appealing to read.
I'd equate it to a history teacher reading a passage from the textbook for 20 minutes. It gets the job done, but those who aren't already very into the topic will be staring at their phones after half a minute.

^A terrible introverted mess of a human being learns to become a functioning person and accidentally turns her cringe story into a yuri harem.

Ok.

^Clueless1 thinks themselves somewhat of an art expert.

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