Wait! Japanese girls can just choose to wear pants, to school!? This is huge!

The trick “the school rules state that students have to wear the school uniform but don’t say which one” has been used in manga before, though I can’t remember one of the series at the moment. Actually, more and more schools are starting to allow that officially.

You never see a boy in a romance manga, learning to cook, just so he can make the girl he likes smile.

Yeah, we never see Nisekoi’s Raku learning to cook because he was already pretty good at it at the start of the series. =)

but who's the top and who's the bottom

I’m pretty sure the pants go on the bottom. Unless you’re Pantsman. Then you’ll never know which is the top and which is the bottom.

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Mark426 said:

Finally,

Perverted lesbian girl

KawaiiSuika said:

Pervy lesbian protagonist who is totally comfortable in her sexuality? Yes please. Skeeter Rabbit is technically doing that as well, but that manga makes me kind of uncomfortable.

Nikaidou and Hornymi Rikka would like to have a word with you two.

Come on, guys, stop complaining about the “chapter” length. The artist draws two pages per week, so it’s more like a webcomic. If you wanted a 16-page chapter, you’d have to wait for two months.

So what is the top lesbian in a relationship called?

Tachi. Tachi/neko, top/bottom and seme/uke don’t mean the same, btw. I suggest googling them if you’re interested.

And are menu items exclusive to couples and women really a thing, that's the weirdest bit to me.

From what I’ve gathered, the Japanese really dig limited availability items, even silly stuff like limited editions that are identical to the non-limited edition except for a minor cosmetic change. Taken to the logical extreme with Gacha games.

Couples-only and women-only items are a popular (with store owners) marketing ploy to attract customers to visit the store and try those items. Not because they’re good but because they’re exclusive. Or rather, they must be good because they’re exclusive, right?

They could be 13 on the previous page, so even if they’re not married yet, Nao could still get married at 23, to Hona.

Are there any yuri manga where they're also parents?

Try Ebisu-san and Hotei-san.

Thanks for this. I figured that since volume 2 only came out last month, fans would rather keep up with the monthly releases rather than wait around for another tank.

Yeah, some readers don’t care about image quality as long as it’s fast. To bridge the gap until the next tankoubon release, some other groups release those tankoubon chapters only as fast as new ones come out, rather than release the whole thing within one week…

If you guys do want to go with the low-res raws, I can continue posting them one or two days after they come out.

Goggled Anon said:

That was mainly thanks to getting the RAWs for volume 2, which comes to an end after one more omake. After that, we'll need some Comic Cune RAWs to fill the two chapter gap between the tank and the public online RAWs (currently at ch20 as of this post). Anyone who has the former and is willing to share please swing by /u/'s TL thread.

I have 18-20 losslessly extracted (no blurry screenshot garbage with extra artifacts), but the public raws are pretty low-res. I’d prefer if you guys waited for the superior tankoubon releases, especially since most artists fix various stuff for the tankoubon release.

I posted the chapters anyways because I suspect that if I don’t post mine, you’re not going to wait for the tankoubon and use someone else’s screenshots instead. :-/

Also to anyone who didn’t like this series in the beginning, I told you to wait for chapters 13-15. =)

General spoilers for the impatient (that don’t spoil much, IMO):
18: More of the same Chiaki/Harumi but slightly different. You know, like all the previous chapters.
19: Another Momose/Kana chapter.
20: More assertive Harumi and (wo)manhandling of small boobs.

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Five years late, but here’s the explanation for the four-step pun on page 028:
clap - peace (actually two) - circle - [looking]
pan - tsu - maru - [mie]
pan - ties - fully - [visible]
Instead of getting punched in the face, for the fourth step you’re supposed to be shielding your eyes as if you’re trying to get a better look at something.

@MarqFJA87 said:

... Did real-life Japan really legalize same-sex marriage (in the form of domestic partnerships) when I wasn't looking, or is this just a reference to another yuri manga/doujinshi?

This was released in January 2016. In 2015, Tokyo’s Shibuya and Setagaya wards were the first to start issuing same-sex partnership certificates. A few more followed suit since then. Have a look at the relevant Wikipedia article, if you’re interested.

The Shibuya certificate is also a major plot point in I decided to fake a marriage with my junior (♀️) to shut my parents up.

I’m pretty sure Kayako was setting everything up for a Good End. Have a look at the last image in this tweet from her. The relevant text of the tweet says something like “I wanted to add a color sketch of them making out.” At least in my headcanon, Eimi seems to have figured out what love is.

@acelaten said:

Here's summary of her afterword:

Thanks a lot. I didn’t expect to ever find out what she wrote in her afterword.

• She will write another afterword for further elaboration.

Hopefully, we’ll get to see that too. ;)

The original Japanese phrase for "It's gross" is "ぐちゃぐちゃだよ" and according to J-E dictionary, ぐちゃぐちゃ means "soggy, squashy, mucky, marshy etc.". I'm not an English native nor Japanese native but I will interpret that as "It's a mess" or "I'm a mess".

Jisho.org says (emphasis by me):

1. pulpy; soppy​ (Onomatopoeic or mimetic word)
2. sloppy; untidy; in a disarray; chaotic​ (Onomatopoeic or mimetic word)

I like this a lot better than “It’s gross” and it also makes more sense to me.

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@netgirl said:

I'M THE ONLY GIRL IN MY NERDY GIRL FRIEND GROUP THAT LIKES YURI!!! they mainly like yaoi and regular hetero ships.... i fake liking yaoi too when i'm around them just to feel included :(

Try striking up a discussion about Love DNA XX, which can totally be passed of as yaoi with female characters. I’m sure you all know Eiki Eiki and Zaou Taishi. Maybe you can figure out if anyone of them is open for some yuri talk too.

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Should be fixed.

Thanks. I ended up putting most of my write-up on Pastebin anyway because I didn’t want to bother uninterested users too much with my wall of text.

I think some markdown for a collapse/expand block for lengthy stuff (or big images) would be a great addition to the forum.

@Grail said:

Keep in mind, Emi's been doing this thing for years. Time is indeed a factor. People mature and learn from experience with age. What did Emi learn? Nada.

Figuring out some things can be hard. Even if you keep thinking about it, you might not be able to find an answer if you don’t have the right information available, especially if the information you do have available points the opposite way. As I mentioned in my interpretation on the previous page, which I invite you to read if you haven’t yet, it took one of my friends ten years to figure out that she’s lesbian and it took me 20 years to figure out that I’m demi-romantic/sexual. Does that mean that I failed at maturing? I don’t think so. I certainly tried to figure it out by myself all this time and I’m sure I matured along the way, despite not being able to reach the final conclusion without an external push in the right direction.

Eimi also unsuccessfully tried to figure things out by herself all that time but ended up needing an external push. She has my full understanding.

If you got questions and issues, you freaking communicate without doing all this roundabout love interest hijacking.

It’s hard to communicate if you haven’t figured out what the problem is. You can’t ask questions if you don’t even know what questions to ask.

I already get plenty frustrated when I read mainstream titles where the main protagonist does not mature one bit at all hundreds of chapters later. That's one of my biggest no no when it comes to a story.

I agree that perpetual lack of character development across hundreds of chapters is completely boring to read. It’s not unrealistic, though. If you look at this story from that angle, it was probably better for it to be this short. I still would’ve liked to see more of it, though.

Edit: Since the forum rejected my whole write-up, I outsourced the main part but I’ll put the wrapping here.

I’m not sure what’s up with all these super negative interpretations of the story, assuming malice wherever possible, with the characters manipulating or using each other. I’ve seen this in the comments on other series as well, commenters judging relationships as “unhealthy” or “doomed” when that’s just one possible and sometimes not even likely interpretation. Positive interpretations in turn seem to be shunned as if the Dynasty Reader is some kind of dystopia where every fluffy story must be countered by two tragedies. Even though I’m not exactly a happy person, this prevalence of negative interpretations when positive interpretations are just as likely, if not more likely, strikes me as odd.

If you want a positive (but lengthy) interpretation with a helping of personal experience and the application of Hanlon’s razor, read on.

Since my interpretation got so lengthy that this forum refused to accept it, head over to Pastebin to read the whole thing.

Is this the correct interpretation? Who knows. Probably not. Does it take everything into account and explain everything? Probably not either. Is it less likely than the other interpretations in this thread? I don’t think so. Based on my friend’s and my own experience, I actually find it more likely. I’m really curious what the author says in her afterword, but I fear that we’ll never know because most translators shy away from walls of text, especially when they’re not part of any publicized chapter.

For me, the story had a good end. No doubts. Stories are (usually?) written to be enjoyed, I guess. Reading the story with this interpretation made me enjoy the story, so that’s a win in my book.

tl;dr: How do two lesbians get together if neither of them realizes she’s in love with a woman and one of them is demi-romantic?

Another special thanks to @shadesofgreymoon because I really want her to see it and this site lacks a private message function.

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Is there a rule against lengthy interpretations in comments?

After several negative interpretations in the I Hate Things Like Love discussion, I wanted to post a positive interpretation that admittedly got rather lengthy. However, the site keeps giving me this error:

Your post has been detected as spam, please contact us if you think this has been an error.

There aren’t any links, there’s no swearing, no copypasta and I even marked all the quotes properly. I think the forum markdown is correct and I’m pretty confident in my spelling and grammar too. I wanted to post this before everyone forgets about the series but the site’s not letting me and I have no idea what I’m doing wrong. :<

I put it on Pastebin, in case anyone wants to have a look.

Also, isn’t there a collapse/expand block available via forum markdown?

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johnb said:

It's usually worse than that, Every harem, with a yuri crush, I've seen, the yuri crush girl initially hates the protagonist, because he is coming between her and her crush. Then slowly falls into his clutches, becoming just another girl chasing after him. The moral of her tale is all you need to "cure" a girl of lesbianism is somebody with a penis to pay attention to her.

In Nisekoi, the yuri crush girl (Fuu) stopped hating the protagonist but remained faithful to her yuri crush until the end of the series. Unfortunately, said crush also remained unrequited until the end of the series.

Also props to Negima for pairing off two of the harem candidates with each other (Konoka x Setsuna) and effectively making them an official couple by the end of the series. Then again, the harem was so large that removing two girls from it didn’t reduce its size that much. They even had a third girl to spare (Natsumi) for a second sidecouple.

Nene said:

Also, anyone who doesn’t like it now, stop complaining and wait for chapters 13-15. :)

Where did you find the raws up to chapter [ :< ]? I must know!!!

No thanks for defeating my spoiler tag. :<

Comic Walker has low-res versions of the first and current chapter up for free. Nothing in-between, so no, those chapters are currently not available unless you subscribe to their paid service.

yuri n wine said:

Ah a fellow boob whisperer, Blondie and I really are one. I knew it was futile, but I still got my hopes up for 2.5 seconds that Boob chan would take her bra off.

Minor spoiler: wait for chapter 4
Maybe your attention was elsewhere, but Boob-chan has a nice name: Harumi Hana.

Also, anyone who doesn’t like it now, stop complaining and wait for chapters 13-15. :)

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毛並み: offspring fur, hair

shadesofgreymoon said:

Once I finally got that figured out, I also discovered that I am demi, which makes female friendships "hard mode".

Thank you for writing that in a way that made me look up demi. You may now claim credit for the epiphany of a random stranger on the Internet.

More on topic, I’m really curious how this series will continue. I’m hoping for some positive development in the long run.