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Es0teric
Their Story discussion 27 Jan 16:37
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Yeah saying "that night" makes quite the difference to "that evening" as evening implies there is still time left in that day. If the scene showed it looking like it was dusk then the strip wouldn't have felt so out of place. Guess we'll see.

Thanks for all your work though, on both this and "Beloved"

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Their Story discussion 27 Jan 16:19
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I was just pointing out why it wasn't a filler episode but yeah that is what i am thinking too. I also have a feeling that the whole "that night, she never turned up" may have been a slight mistranslation, It's not the first time something got lost in translation.

The Chinese says, 那天傍晚,孙璟没有出现. With perfect hindsight, we could change the tl a bit to say, "That nightfall, SJ did not appear" or even "Before sunset, SJ did not appear," but it sounds a bit awkward in English and even Chinese fans suspect Tanjiu dropped the ball a little bit and forgot about her mention of 傍晚. Especially since the latest strip doesn't show QT waiting until sun down. Oh well!

Thanks for clarifying that. "That evening" instead of "that nightfall" would have made more sense to me but then as you said it's still pretty light in the latest strip.

She has had a bit on her mind though from what i understand so i can see how she may have made a mistake.

Edit: In fact just using google "那天傍晚,孙璟没有出现" translates to "That evening, Sun Jing did not appear"

last edited at Jan 27, 2018 4:22PM

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Beloved L discussion 27 Jan 15:03
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It probably doesn't make a difference to some but the age gap in Leon The Professional and Beloved are quite different.

Leon spoiler Also in Leon it's an unrequited love, Mathilda has a crush on Leon but he doesn't really reciprocate those feelings. His actions are more fatherly than anything

last edited at Jan 27, 2018 3:48PM

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Their Story discussion 27 Jan 14:52
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This is the next time she is seeing her as QT has SJ's coat with her. They'll talk about it in the next few chapters i reckon.

QT had SJ's coat before the Christmas special and Mo's chapters as well, so I think SJ meeting QT at the sweet potato stand happens immediately after Mo stopped SJ. QT asks SJ if she was finished with her "business" and went on to passively scold SJ for making her wait in the cold.

If so, the earlier panel with QT saying Sun Jing never showed up, and implying she never heard from SJ, makes worrying over QT and SJ feel forced.

I'm guessing that SJ calmed Mo somehow and then texted QT saying she was held up over some "business", with business meaning talking to and rejecting Mo -- poor girl, I really feel for Mo.

I was just pointing out why it wasn't a filler episode but yeah that is what i am thinking too. I also have a feeling that the whole "that night, she never turned up" may have been a slight mistranslation, It's not the first time something got lost in translation.

last edited at Jan 27, 2018 2:53PM

Es0teric
Their Story discussion 27 Jan 04:55
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Man, I've been stressing like hell since last chapter thinking there was gonna be some ridiculous drawn out drama like citrus but it looks like it's gonna be fine, I can sleep easy tonight.

This was a filler chapter.

No it wasn't. It didn't have the "Extra Life" marker that filler chapters usually have.

You sure? If I just kissed my crush a few days ago I wouldn't just not talk about it the next time I meet them

This is the next time she is seeing her as QT has SJ's coat with her. They'll talk about it in the next few chapters i reckon.

last edited at Jan 27, 2018 4:57AM

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What I think is that Team Gaji planned Sungji and Sumin ending from the start, but when started developing Seju, they liked her more than Sungji.

I've always thought that too, especially going by interviews and Q&A's in the past.

last edited at Jan 24, 2018 2:55PM

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Es0teric Not sure what you're trying to say about the plot twist, but from the wdtfs description you've mentioned, it becomes clear that Sungji is the main character. Like you said, Seju is not even mentioned.

I was just trying to say that Seju and her relationship to Sumin was the plot twist.

last edited at Jan 23, 2018 9:32PM

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"Seongji joins a mobile game developer Hello Studio. From the crowd of reluctant, casual acquaintances, one person stands out. Direct, no-nonsense, and short-tempered, but occasionally the damsel - her team manager Sumin...Alluring artwork and a shocking plot twist!"

Pretend you have never read the story at all, nor even looked at the pictures. Then you'll see what the plot twist was and it's not shocking; that's just a very good sales pitch.

Yes, I did. But logic tells me from the premise, the paradoxical adjectives describing the team manager, that relationship will aboard these two(the subordinate and superior), the inevitable pairing, SuminxSeongji. So, where is the plot twist?

Notice how Seju and her relationships with Sumin is never mentioned at all in this blurb?

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"Seongji joins a mobile game developer Hello Studio. From the crowd of reluctant, casual acquaintances, one person stands out. Direct, no-nonsense, and short-tempered, but occasionally the damsel - her team manager Sumin...Alluring artwork and a shocking plot twist!"

Pretend you have never read the story at all, nor even looked at the pictures. Then you'll see what the plot twist was and it's not shocking; that's just a very good sales pitch.

last edited at Jan 23, 2018 1:36AM

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Nora89

There is another post in this forum about what is happening at Lezhin. I don't buy into your "they changed the end" theory but there is definitely some stuff going on in regards to author payments. Even SBS news are talking about the issue.

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darui

Yeah i don't see what the big deal was, your use of the the shorthand concrit was legitimate.

Looking forward to your translations.

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Anyone here played Butterfly Soup? Came across some Tumblr fanart and picked it up, and hot damn it was good stuff. It's cute and gay and has some of the most believably written dialogue I've seen in a VN. Also it's free!

Butterfly soup is great! Played it a couple of times. Hopefully she makes a sequel soon.

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yoonie0104

I do agree with you, was just giving some context as to what the artists may actually be complaining about.

Update for those who are interested

https://mobile.twitter.com/birries/status/939863733865558017

last edited at Dec 12, 2017 9:49PM

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I could be wrong but i believe the creators are complaining that they're not being payed properly for their work by Lezhin, going by the tweets from both Team Gaji and other creators on Lezhin. They also apparently have a blacklist of writers who speak out against them.

https://www1.president.go.kr/petitions/60721?page=25

This is a petition started by a former Lezhin artist asking the government to look into starting a tax investigation into Resin comics (Lezhin).

last edited at Dec 13, 2017 6:55AM

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haleyd16

Sometimes it's nice to look at the past, especially if it has happy memories.

Btw going by your avatar i'm assuming you are wanting to see what is happening with Seju in the present rather than the past?

last edited at Dec 9, 2017 2:30AM

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Happy start of Holiday panic everyone

Good thing internet shopping exists.

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Ah sorry no i didn't mean to imply that Their Story isn't "Yuri enough", just that not every chapter is about or contributes to the main couples romantic relationship. Not completely focusing on the main couples relationship has turned away some readers i noticed, even though the story has so many great attributes like Mophead and SJ's relationship. Which is why i tried to lower Nora's expectations a little.

On hind-site though I probably shouldn't have called the relationship a subplot though as that may have added to the misunderstanding :)

By the way Shoujo Ai is more an American term rather than Japanese

last edited at Nov 23, 2017 2:33AM

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LustGreed

Depends if you are going by Japanese or American definitions ;) Since neither of these are from Japan we should probably just call them GL stories.

yoonie0104

Yeah Their Story and SQ: Begin W/Your Name! are the other titles for Tamen De Gushi.
Now is a good time to start reading Their Story though as it's finally moving forward in the GL romance department.

last edited at Nov 22, 2017 9:27PM

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Es0teric

hahahah, thank you very much for the warning XDD I barely think of Fluttering Feeling as a yuri XDD too innocent to be one. Now that I am unemployed, I can get educated and read some more XDDD

I'd still recommend reading it as the dynamics between the characters is great and it's quite funny; just real slow in the Yuri developement.

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Nora89

I'll just point out that Their Story (Tamen de gushi) is more a slice of life with a Yuri subplot rather than a Yuri manwha straight out like Fluttering Feelings or WDTFS.

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You'd have more luck reading this entire thread to find the answer to that question.

I actually have read most or all of the posts here at one point or another; I was hoping for maybe a condensed now-that-it’s-over-and-the-ships-are-all-in-port version.

Ah, well good luck with that. I think a lot of it is more to do with the reader than anything else.

Understand the reader and you may understand their reasons.

last edited at Nov 18, 2017 3:37PM

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Blastaar

You'd have more luck reading this entire thread to find the answer to that question.

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So much vitrol for Sumin on here sometimes, often as much as there can be on the other threads for Seju lol

I don't think this thread has that many arguments between "blonde" and "pink" fans as someone mentioned earlier, I'd say its more "pink" and "black" fans having arguments/discussions.

last edited at Sep 20, 2017 6:08PM

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Though mostly was looking forward to your assessments (instead I found a lot of pages with paranoia and people getting all Spanish soap opera in here)

Now I'm curious about Spanish soap operas. This thread has been amusing lately, moreso than the actual Manwha.

last edited at Sep 17, 2017 11:43PM

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What people are thinking and what they say don't necessarily have the same timing.