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Well, if the translation is going for accuracy (in this case, trying to emulate the difference between Hakata-ben vs. regular Japanese and Scottish English vs. American English), I'd say the Scottish accent is serving its purpose. If the translation is aiming for readability (for non-native English speakers in particular - I'm positive that very few native speakers are unable to adapt to the Scottish accent), then the accent should be replaced. (I mean, seriously, how many native English speakers need a glossary for like, 6 words written out in Scottish?). And iirc, Nanami only speaks in Hakata-ben when she's drunk, thinking to herself, or talking to Kaede. Otherwise, she speaks regular Japanese.

In the end, I don't think this should be a decision that a group of maybe ~10 people on some forum should be making. Ultimately, it's up to the scanlators to decide if they want to preserve authenticity and accuracy over readability or not, especially because, well, we only know how like, 10 people at best feel about this, lol (out of, perhaps, a thousand or so non-bot views per release on this site). I don't think any of us get to make the call in the end.

... But that's just me. I'd personally be a little sad if Nanami was stripped of one of her only redeeming qualities ;( Justice for Hakata-ben! :')

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Seira
Killing Me! discussion 20 Jun 06:34
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Oh? Looks like Sugano Manami can draw yuri! COUGH COUGH AHEM

(Bless Yukiko art)

EDIT: Wait wait, was that picture of Saki taken after she was found by her parents? She's also looking the other way and seems like she's holding hands with something even though nothing shows up in the photo. Do vampires really not show up in photos, LOL.

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Seira
Citrus discussion 19 Jun 23:39
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Yeah I totally agree with you that what you describe is the likely scenario, as Matsuri has been like a Seer or Oracle from day 1 lol

It would only be what I said if there was a final plot twist in the series. Also because in chapter 37, Harumin tells Matsuri the following: https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/citrus_ch37#6. I think someone on Reddit mentioned in the raw she says something like "you are not always right".

That's such a minor scene, I don't believe it implies anything about Matsuri's perceptiveness. Also, if we are to assume that Matsuri has feelings for Harumin (and as a Harumi x Matsuri shipper, I sure hope so), she most likely has observed Harumin's behavior the most out of anybody and knows her best out of the rest of the cast members. I'm definitely willing to bet that she knew what the talk between Yuzu and Harumin was about in the latest chapter.

Also, here's what I would've translated the last two panels of page 5, and the first two of page 6 to (not much different than what's been released though, lol):

Matsuri: Personally, I thought he genuinely wanted to get along with me...
Matsuri: So, you know...

Harumi: Well... Everybody's different, and they all have their own ways of thinking.
Harumi: Besides, that's just your opinion, isn't it?

She doesn't say anything like "you are not always right."

Sighs. Well I don't know what to say, both my ships sunk in the same chapter damn it LOL HaruYuzu and HaruMatsu never gonna be a reality at this rate (if Harumin doesn't like Matsuri already, there is no way she will develop feelings for her by the end of the story in any satisfactory way). Guess I am here now only to see Mei get bitchslapped hard by Matsuri then, because she has turned into such a boring emo character that I also want revenge. I mean at least this one thing Saburouta has to give us.

Like, am I the only one who literally could not give a sh*t if Mei and Yuzu end up together? I don't know why, in the beginning of the story I really cared but after Mei's letter it was like a cold shower I never recovered from.

I'm still holding out for Harumi x Matsuri! I get this feeling we're going to get a time skip after Mei comes back or a time skip just so Mei can come back, and by then, hopefully Harumi will have fallen in love with Matsuri, LOL... Just typing that out made me a little sad. ;_;

Seira
Citrus discussion 19 Jun 21:18
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Yeah I totally agree with you that what you describe is the likely scenario, as Matsuri has been like a Seer or Oracle from day 1 lol

It would only be what I said if there was a final plot twist in the series. Also because in chapter 37, Harumin tells Matsuri the following: https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/citrus_ch37#6. I think someone on Reddit mentioned in the raw she says something like "you are not always right".

That's such a minor scene, I don't believe it implies anything about Matsuri's perceptiveness. Also, if we are to assume that Matsuri has feelings for Harumin (and as a Harumi x Matsuri shipper, I sure hope so), she most likely has observed Harumin's behavior the most out of anybody and knows her best out of the rest of the cast members. I'm definitely willing to bet that she knew what the talk between Yuzu and Harumin was about in the latest chapter.

Also, here's what I would've translated the last two panels of page 5, and the first two of page 6 to (not much different than what's been released though, lol):

Matsuri: Personally, I thought he genuinely wanted to get along with me...
Matsuri: So, you know...

Harumi: Well... Everybody's different, and they all have their own ways of thinking.
Harumi: Besides, that's just your opinion, isn't it?

She doesn't say anything like "you are not always right."

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2 chapters out of 7 volumes
Are you seriously arguing about something you haven't read
Someone who's read 7 volumes just made a statement, and you're going to argue that, without knowing anything of the circumstances and reasoning of the character? Are you absolutely fuckin serious

So she didnt date a dude and was going to happily marry him if he didnt dump her? She is open to herself about dating guys and girls. How is she not bisexual?

Whether or not she'd truly be happy with being in a relationship with a male, or if she'd truly love him, is still unconfirmed (speaking as someone who has only read the last 2 chapters). She mentions in chapter 1 that her goal from the get-go was to live an "ordinary" life as a woman (get a fulfilling career, marry a man, have kids, have grandkids, etc.), and after Yuuji asks if Nanami is a lesbian, there is a hint that she might be one (possibly from an incident in the past). In chapter 1, she is pretty fixated on the idea of living that ideal "ordinary" life, but Kae-chan indirectly and implicitly shows her that it's okay to stray from that path (and love girls, ayyy).

Furthermore, in chapter 1, Nanami reveals that she didn't visit her hometown because she didn't want to see Yuuji face-to-face. That's not exactly ideal, especially if they were planning to get married - so no, they wouldn't have been "happily" married to each other in the long run (or even in the short term, for that matter).

We also see throughout these two chapters that Nanami and the people around her are fixated on superficiality. Nanami wants to be the perfect, ideal woman (again, with a fulfilling career, happily married, stable family, all that jazz) on the surface, but her plans crumble when Yuuji steps out of her life and Kaede walks right into it. Her wanting a "boyfriend or girlfriend" is likely related to the fact that she still hasn't gotten over wanting to have the perfect lifestyle, but we are given no evidence that Nanami is actually into men. She just wants (or wanted) one to make herself look better.

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I, for one, welcome our new Scottish overlords.

Seira
Citrus discussion 19 Jun 19:06
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https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/citrus_ch39#31

I took a look at the raw for the page, and what Matsuri says on panel 3 is (more or less):

"You kept insisting that you weren't interested in anyone,
but just as I thought, it was Yuzu-chan, wasn't it..."

Just a small detail, I guess.

Wow, seriously? Damn. I don't understand, how come the translation doesn't show that? I always complain Saburouta is vague, but maybe it's the translations after all. I mean that basically settles the matter. So sad for Harumin :-(

I don’t ever read Citrus raws, so I’m not sure how the translation has been for the other chapters, but the line above specifically mentions “Yuzu-chan”, so I don’t even know how it came out so vague in the end product ( ̄▽ ̄)

So folks in Reddit are commenting something interesting.

Tthat we cannot be sure about whether Harumin likes Yuzu or not, because Matsuri didn't even hear the whole thing and it was vague anyway (as evidenced by Nene wanting to go closer so they could hear the whole convo).

But what DID for sure happen is that Matsuri jumped to the conclusion Harumin does likes Yuzu, and now might think Yuzu has already or is in the process of accepting Harumin's feelings. So she now sees Yuzu as a rival, which is why she mentioned that Yuzu is already "raising the flag of victory" (remember she sees love as a game). And she is plotting revenge, either because: (1) she thinks if Yuzu and Harumin are together, and so she is free to have revenge on Mei as a venting target for her frustration at not getting Harumin, or (2) because she thinks by pushing Mei and Yuzu to be together again, she can have a chance with Harumin.

My opinion as HaruminxMatsuri shipper: the plot twist here is that Harumin's face was sad because she likes Matsuri but due to her "on the fence" personality is not going to be out about it like Yuzu. It was a face of "damn, I don't have the guts to be this brave". Matsuri will try to nuke everything, end up getting a confession from Harumin and save YuzuMei inadvertently in the process :P

If this wasn't Citrus of all things, I'd be inclined to agree with you, LOL... But remember that Matsuri is some kind of super keen, ultra-observant hyper-genius. Ever since she was introduced, she has always been seemingly aware of everything going on beneath the surface, even if just vaguely. Most likely, she's always known that Harumi had (or has) romantic feelings for Yuzu. Nene wanted to get closer because she ISN'T an ultra-observant hyper-genius like Matsuri is, and ISN'T aware of anything that's going on. Hell, she most likely isn't even aware that something could be going on between Yuzu and Mei, even though the rest of her friends might've had an inkling about it.

Frankly, Matsuri sees everything like a game, due to her being an avid gamer, LOL. Matsuri is 99% already aware of the talk that Yuzu had with Harumi. The only way to get Harumi to make that kind of pained expression is by finding out that her love will never come true, and the only way to make that happen is if Yuzu told Harumi about Mei, which is exactly what happened. "Raising the flag of victory" is most likely referring to Yuzu, who now looks more confident in her ability to find Mei after confiding in Harumi. Basically, Yuzu's celebrating prematurely, as if she had already won the battle (to bring Mei back) just by talking it out with her best friend. Because of this newfound confidence instilled in Yuzu, Matsuri wonders what Yuzu's next move will be.

About Matsuri's "revenge" though... My guess is that Matsuri can hardly wait for Yuzu to bring Mei back so she can get her "revenge" (probably just a prank). I think this is her mischievous and subtle way of believing that Yuzu has the power to do so. This is probably her way of silently encouraging Yuzu's plan from the shadows. ("Bring her back so I can toy with her!" kind of scenario, maybe?)

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Seira
Citrus discussion 19 Jun 07:46
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https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/citrus_ch39#31

I took a look at the raw for the page, and what Matsuri says on panel 3 is (more or less):

"You kept insisting that you weren't interested in anyone,
but just as I thought, it was Yuzu-chan, wasn't it..."

Just a small detail, I guess.

Wow, seriously? Damn. I don't understand, how come the translation doesn't show that? I always complain Saburouta is vague, but maybe it's the translations after all. I mean that basically settles the matter. So sad for Harumin :-(

I don’t ever read Citrus raws, so I’m not sure how the translation has been for the other chapters, but the line above specifically mentions “Yuzu-chan”, so I don’t even know how it came out so vague in the end product ( ̄▽ ̄)

Seira
Citrus discussion 18 Jun 20:52
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https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/citrus_ch39#31

I took a look at the raw for the page, and what Matsuri says on panel 3 is (more or less):

"You kept insisting that you weren't interested in anyone,
but just as I thought, it was Yuzu-chan, wasn't it..."

Just a small detail, I guess.

Seira
Citrus discussion 18 Jun 01:01
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i bet mei's dad was screaming on the inside.


"You're gonna do WHAT with Mei?"

Seira
Citrus discussion 17 Jun 23:02
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It's funny to read the comments here honestly. People seem to be always complaining no matter what direction the story takes. Why not chillax and enjoy the arts, the fluff, the unnecessary drama (not as angsty as Kodama Naoko my fav of course) and just hope for a happy ending lmao. It's all about managing expectations ya know, and if it dissatisfies you so much, kindly look for another good manga or just draw yourself. (and before you jump at me all angry and defensive, please know that I probably share the same opinion as you on this manga. But hey, I am still reading and so are you)

Well, this is a forum, so anyone can say whatever they want in a respectable manner. I mean, what's the purpose of a discussion forum, if all of us just have one-sided opinions.

A sense of extremely creepy unity. (ㆀ˘・з・˘) pls love me

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Seira
Citrus discussion 17 Jun 21:52
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Citrus recap at the top of my head:

  • Yuzu and Mei meet.
  • Yuzu sees Mei smooching Amamiya-sensei.
  • She frees Mei and Amamiya is never seen or mentioned again.
  • Matsuri comes outta nowhere and makes Mei jealous.
  • Mei decides the best solution is to kiss Matsuri.
  • Matsuri blackmails Mei, but nothing ever comes of it, no one finds out she got smooched by Mei.
  • Oh, time to go on a school trip. Tachibana 1 & 2 appear. 1 seems to love Mei.
  • Yuzu is oblivious to Tachibana 1's feelings for Mei, and acts indecisively.
  • Tachibana 1 and Aihara 1 find out they both love Mei. Tachibana 1 confesses to Mei.
  • Mei decides the best solution is to say yes, but nothing comes of it and they go home, lol.
  • I think they're finally dating now, I'm not sure.
  • Nene & Harumi's sister appear.
  • Nene dyes her hair. Harumi's sister wants to lynch Yuzu & Nene unless Yuzu becomes the next StuCo pres.
  • Yuzu delivers an inspirational speech. Harumi's sister is okay with this. Never gets brought up again.
  • Yuzu has a job.
  • Yuzu meets Shirapon-senpai.
  • Shirapon-sensei loves Mei (why though), but backs off like 4 chapters later. Nothing really happens at this point.
  • They go on a trip. Cue the infamous incomplete sketches of the pages in one of the chapters.
  • Oh, Mei has a marriage lined up.
  • Mei decided that not telling Yuzu about it was the best idea.
  • Mei decides that even though things are not okay, she should run off and complete her duties as Aihara 2.
  • Mei cries and disappears.
  • Yuzu is sad for 4 chapters.
Seira
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There's some underlying meaning, beside botany, in this and this.

The girls are the flowers, obviously, And what the vice-president implies is some sort of supervision the girls are under in this "Garden Of Eden". I think the vice-president is probably someone who has given up because the one she loves (the president) can't be with her. But she doesn't want to move on, so she rejects Aoi and embrace the philosophy of protecting the status-quo, because if someone breaks it, it would mean her "sacrifice" is meaningless.

Anything unnecessary will be removed, or rejected. That's probably why Kohane is rejected when she wants to enter the gardening club: she disturbs the balance in the club.

It's very Japanese: the group protects the wa and the harmony continues, even if it's only on the surface. And the pests are removed.

Interesting! I was looking too deeply at the surface and hadn't actually considered that the girls could be flowers in this Garden of Eden (should've been obvious, ahh). I mean, the title is "Maidens in the Garden of Eden" (in German, supposedly). :P

Again, I've never read chapters 10-13, but I wonder if Rekka never intended to let Kohane join, or if something happened. I also wonder if Aoi will join the garden again if she finds out that Kohane has been rejected.

In any case, I wonder what Sayuri's "ideal garden" looks like, haha.

Seira
Killing Me! discussion 17 Jun 15:03
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LOL Chiharu fainted and Saki was stabbed in the arm and Miyoko just runs away like the Gingerbread Man.

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So it's like skipping through time with each chapter? This is gonna end with some graves.

Totally looking forward to when they turn 36, 46, 56, 66, and so on. :’)

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Seira
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For starters, I’d like to say I don’t condone sexual assault, but this is all taking place in a world that’s different than ours. Perhaps assault is viewed differently there, or taken lighter for whatever reason, or the girls have been conditioned to put on nothing but a pretty face in public, or Kohane & co. are simply just insane for tolerating it. People are reading too deeply into it if they think the “message” the author is sending is that assault is okay. For us, obviously it isn’t, but their world is different from ours and we know too little to be making assumptions.

Personally, I think the author was just trying to show the readers (and Kohane) that Aoi is super broken, and at the same time, super passionate and utterly mad for Rekka. Kohane realizes here that Aoi is beautiful for even being able to have these thoughts in the first place, and admires Aoi’s personal “garden” (even if it’s not something she’s necessarily on board with). And I feel like we might not have seen Kohane’s true feelings about the actual incident itself. Perhaps Sayuri has finally ended the silence with her recent confrontation.

Although, I understand that the assault can make people uncomfortable and drive them away from the series. There is nothing wrong with that at all. All I’m trying to say is that the message the author was getting across was not assault = okay. Perhaps Aoi’s intensity and brokenness were just executed really poorly, but I don’t think that should be a testament to the author’s moral compass.

Basically what Nya-chan said:

I tip my hat to the way the kindof sexual assault has been handled because, actually, it has not been hand-waved but integrated in the 3way relationship of Aoi x Kohane x Sayuri.

I can understand why some people don't like the idea of an assault not having consequences, but I'll just say that it's not that kind of story. The author isn't writing about rape. They are writing about complex relationships between girls in the context of a menless world.

EDIT: I wonder if there's a reason why everybody's pretending it's okay and like nothing ever happened. Never mind Aoi, Kohane and Sayuri, it seems like even Rekka is turning a blind eye to it. However, Kohane is aware that something is wrong and yet, everyone (including herself) seems to be so adamant on preserving the peace in the garden. Maybe everyone in the club has committed some kind of sin (excluding Kohane, because she's not a member of the club), but they're all choosing to be silent about it with each other. Or maybe the seven deadly sins? (Aoi = Lust, Sayuri = Greed? Wrath?, Rekka = unknown, maybe something to do with the president, Kanamori = Pride?, Ukyou & Momo = ... Gluttony?, Kohane = Envy? And maybe one for the president herself?)

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Seira
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Oops, I'm like, triple posting here, lol. Couldn't find the raws for chapters 10-13, but I read 14 & 15 on the Pixiv site, and...

(Image is from chapter 15, but not really a spoiler) So cute.

Lengthy summaries below, LOL.

Chapter 14:

Oof, Aoi x Kohane (platonic) bonding time in chapter 14. I don't know what happened in the chapters before this, so I'm guessing Aoi was ready to leave the club, but Kohane (who still hasn't joined) comforts her (she points out the "himawari" (sunflower) and "tachiaoi" (hollyhock) in the garden, both of which are spelled with Aoi's given name in kanji, and tells Aoi that her flowers have properly bloomed), reassures Aoi that she is very much so needed within the club, and tells her that ever since Aoi attacked her, Kohane made the realization that nothing would change by just sitting around and doing nothing.

Kohane essentially tells Aoi that there is meaning to her membership with the club: Aoi is the reason that Kohane is finally trying to make something out of her own hands and change for the better. Without Aoi, Kohane feels that she would've just been stuck in an indecisive limbo forever. After hearing this, Aoi thinks Kohane is selfish for coming up with such a reason that ties her down to the club, but is grateful nonetheless. Kohane suggests that they start over from the beginning. Aoi takes her hand and agrees.

Chapter 15:

Kohane actually wakes up on time for school, what a miracle. And the reason for this is out of excitement after finally being able to get along with Aoi. However, her mood is quickly destroyed by her atrocious test grades. In this scene, she points out that she and Sayuri's seats have been separated after the exams ended, so they have probably become more distant.

After class, Kohane finds Aoi standing right outside of her classroom door (causing Kohane to think: "No way. Did the Aimiya-senpai actually come here just for me?) Aoi, in standard tsundere fashion, asks Kohane if she was planning to go to the gardening club, and suggests that they go together (so Aoi can face Rekka, and Kohane can finally join). Kohane teases Aoi by asking if she was actually just too scared to go alone. Aoi responds to this by asking, "Sorry, did you say something? ( ᓀ ‸ ᓂ )"

Of course, Sayuri sees this and calls out to Kohane, worried that Aoi has coerced her into something again. However, Kohane clears things up by reassuring Sayuri that she and Aoi have actually just become friends. Sayuri asks why and how they even became friends after the "incident" (refer to chapter 4) like nothing ever happened, and she calls them weird for making up at all. Aoi responds by pointing out that Sayuri had been behaving similarly- just like nothing had ever happened at all- and calls her weird for doing so as well. The two of them tell each other (at the same time) that the other has no room to speak.

Kohane tries to calm them down, which causes Sayuri to realize she had shown an unsightly side of herself to Kohane, and runs off. Kohane is about to run after her when Aoi tells her not to do so until she's sure she knows how to tackle Sayuri's feelings, and that if Kohane spends all of her time chasing after people's backs, then she will never change. Aoi then apologizes to Kohane (in a tsundere fashion, of course) for that "incident", to which Kohane asks her to repeat it, since she didn't hear it properly. Embarrassed, Aoi storms off ahead of her towards the gardening club. Lagging behind, Kohane thinks to herself that everyone is kind of cruel, and that if they have something important to say, they should just suck it up and say it already.

When Kohane and Aoi get to the garden, Aoi is a nervous wreck when she sees Rekka. She clings onto Kohane's skirt, and is unable to formulate any words. Kohane tells Aoi to get her shit together and face her fears, but Aoi comes up with an excuse to run off and ends up pushing Kohane towards Rekka instead so she can deal with her business first. With Aoi gone, Kohane tells Rekka that she wants to join the gardening club for real now... but for some reason, Rekka formally declines the request, essentially stomping on Kohane's earlier plans in chapter 14.

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Seira
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Aoi sure is an interesting character huh. She seems to have OCD or some sort of personality disorder.

but I sure as heck ship Aoi x Kohane

Me too. Seeing more of Aoi's personality I feel more confident they are end game since Aoi seems to be obsessed with being perfect and Kohane, like Hanatsuka, is dirty and clumsy.

Maybe Kohane will eventually (metaphorically) fix up the broken garden that is Aoi. :^)

Seira
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Oof, chapter 8 page 13... I may be reading too much into it, but I sure as heck ship Aoi x Kohane.

"I was able to show her everything inside of me, but I'm sure (I like)"

Of course, that's after splicing up two different things going on at once.

Seira
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How sneaky, Nanoha. :^)

Can't wait for chapters 22 and 23 to come out.
what happened in chapter 22 and 23?!!

Nothing big, but I personally liked those chapters, haha. Although if you do want to know, they were flashbacks of how Chidori and Nanoha got together, and it’s really endearing.

Seira
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How sneaky, Nanoha. :^)

Can't wait for chapters 22 and 23 to come out.

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Fuck yeah it's college! I wish more series would take place in college man I'm so sick of high school. I hope this becomes a long running series or something

I can get behind a long run, as long isn't a one trick pony. Or a two trick pony as the case may be. I don't want to get 20, or 30 chapters in and all the author as done is filled the pages with manga clichés, while dangling the occasional ambiguous hint that there might be a yuri hookup at the end of the story ark rainbow.

inb4 (in college) a boy confesses to Shiori, who believes the only way to escape this "misunderstanding" is by getting rid of it altogether and decides to date him, and Kanoko is like "wtf" and out of heartbreak, dates another girl, which makes Shiori go "wtf" because she thought Kanoko would never love girls that way and they fight and ultimately make up, but some force of misfortune falls upon them and they are forced to separate indefinitely and then graduation comes around the corner, but they somehow meet one another again with both of them as OLs, except Kanoko's the CEO of this company and Shiori is just a lackey and Kanoko, who thought she'd never meet Shiori again, is happily in another relationship, meanwhile the rest of Shiori's half of the story is her finally trying to get over her first love and---

What cliches am I missing...?

ARGH! I DIDN'T SAY THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE ALL MANGA CLICHES! I SAID I HOPE IT DOESN'T TURN OUT TO BE! THANKS FOR THE SPOILERS! GEEZZE!
I've read to many manga where you get 30 chapters in and the MCs are still at the "We're just good friends" stage of the story, because the author as filled most of the chapters with hot spring trips and visits to sick friends.

Hot springs trips, visits to sick friends, beach trips, amusement park "dates", sports festivals, cultural festivals, moving away to another country to pursue their dreams, group study sessions, class field trips, training camps, camping in general, love polygon rivals coming in to stir up drama, "But we're both girls!", unwillingness to communicate, dishonesty with one's own feelings, somebody gets seriously ill or injured, etcetc... :(

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Fuck yeah it's college! I wish more series would take place in college man I'm so sick of high school. I hope this becomes a long running series or something

I can get behind a long run, as long isn't a one trick pony. Or a two trick pony as the case may be. I don't want to get 20, or 30 chapters in and all the author as done is filled the pages with manga clichés, while dangling the occasional ambiguous hint that there might be a yuri hookup at the end of the story ark rainbow.

inb4 (in college) a boy confesses to Shiori, who believes the only way to escape this "misunderstanding" is by getting rid of it altogether and decides to date him, and Kanoko is like "wtf" and out of heartbreak, dates another girl, which makes Shiori go "wtf" because she thought Kanoko would never love girls that way and they fight and ultimately make up, but some force of misfortune falls upon them and they are forced to separate indefinitely and then graduation comes around the corner, but they somehow meet one another again with both of them as OLs, except Kanoko's the CEO of this company and Shiori is just a lackey and Kanoko, who thought she'd never meet Shiori again, is happily in another relationship, meanwhile the rest of Shiori's half of the story is her finally trying to get over her first love and---

What cliches am I missing...?

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How in the world did she manage to attract so many girls? (though the one I don't really get is Yuri)

Ucchi’s initial disgust towards her very quickly turned into infatuation possibly because she ended up obsessing over Tomoko and thinking about her nonstop, and Yoshida’s kinda special in that she treats everyone the exact same way (although I doubt she’s attracted to Tomoko).

Meanwhile, Nemo’s always been low-key interested in Kuro, Yuri’s super happy she was able to befriend other people besides Mako and truly cherishes Tomoko and Yoshida (the only two other people she considers friends besides Mako, but she seemingly gets along better with Tomoko out of all of them due to their shared introverted traits), and Katou is just the super doting motherly type (probably thinking that “any friend of Hina’s is a friend of mine!”)

I think it’s sweet that Yuri has been able to more or less open up because of Tomoko. Even Mako notes that Yuri has been saying and doing things out of her normal character, and thinks it’s nice that Yuri was able to find somebody she could truly connect with. Through Mako’s eyes, we see that Tomoko brings about new sides to Yuri that not even she (Mako) has even seen before, despite being best friends, so I find that a little endearing. Whether or not Yuri (or any of these girls, for that matter) has romantic feelings for Tomoko remains unknown though :^)

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Can I shamefully ship Yuri x Nemo