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Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

Waiting for that idiot couple tag to show up one day. I'm digging this so much. I love these types of misunderstanding set ups and the pseudo incest is just the cherry on top!

Chikaon
Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013
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Miku is totally my type of Tsundere. So cute!

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

Hmmmm Pei Yu having a temporary living situation....so uhhh are signs pointing towards a roommates situation? :3

Chikaon
Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

I kinda just thought the tag was made just for Daphie since she's prone to giving us non yuri stuff at times lol.

Either way cute one shot

Exactly, I uploaded it and initially gave it no genre tag, then someone said "if it's two girls, it's yuri", so i added "yuri", but then i got dissed that i had been bamboozled, lol, so I removed it, but I wanted to be sure those who know me realize that this is not het, lol, you were right!

Happy you and a couple others are enjoying it!! <3

the tag actualy worked since I haven’t saw the yuri tag but the not het one made me check the one shot XD

loool me too. i was like wtf does "not het" mean, and i also saw it was scanalated by Daphie so i was even more curious hahahha

Chikaon
Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

I wish the cactus girl had more catcus references in her design to make it a lil clearer shes a plantgirl, but it was a cute one shot.

Chikaon
Ikoku Nikki discussion 10 Oct 18:49
Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

The complex love/hate relationship between Makio and her sis is probably my favorite part of this series. Minori is truly a tragic character and it just really pains me that they weren't able to come to this place of understanding each other while she was alive.

You gotta love how even at this stage she's just straight up "a do-over? Naw, it'd just end the same way".

Yeah I also believe in things staying the same during do-overs if you went back in time without hindsight. The catalyst to their problems was mainly their mother, so if she never changed, they wouldn't change either. I also think since the fallout was mostly Minori's fault for being so vicious to Makio so it'd have to be Minori that starts changing.

Makio was always just doing her own thing, even if it was extreme, such as never realizing how frail her sister was until well in her late teens, but it's just who she is. If Makio did go back in time with current memories I dunno what she would do different. Maybe offer more support? But support how? She wouldn't change who she was and start conforming when her freedom was what her sister was always jealous of. A 5 year age difference at that age is also really big and the power difference does come into play so Minori might not even be willing to listen to Makio.

The whole family is also really stubborn since we see Minori does change her mind about what she thought of Makio and kept up with her books, probably as a way to understand her little sister more. But even with all that she never reached out to apologize.

I think even if she were alive, it probably won't change much unless something big happened in their family that forces them together again (like this death). Heck Makino didn't see her niece for probably over 10 years. But having died just automatically cuts off the chance (even if is small) and it's sad to think about.

last edited at Oct 10, 2022 7:03PM

Chikaon
Ikoku Nikki discussion 10 Oct 15:07
Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

Damn this was a fuckin good chapter. The long awaited look into Minori and it definitely didn't disappoint. I like how every panel you see her in, you can feel the tiredness oozing off her, like how much damage having all those expectations placed on her did. I can't help but feel bad for her. Of course doesn't excuse any of her actions toward Makio, but I can sympathize. They already talked about this point many times before so we knew this, but I think this chapter finally humanizes her since we see her pov.

Lots of reveals like why Asa's mom got together with her dad. The fact that he was "just there" was a source of comfort. Someone who really had no strong opinions about anything was exactly what she needed in her life.

The complex love/hate relationship between Makio and her sis is probably my favorite part of this series. Minori is truly a tragic character and it just really pains me that they weren't able to come to this place of understanding each other while she was alive.

last edited at Oct 10, 2022 3:09PM

Chikaon
Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

Nico needs to get his ass into therapy right now. Man poor Yuuta, there's no way that kid is gonna grow up without any trauma from all this drama that has happened. I'm glad we're finally getting the full story of Michiru and Keiichi though.

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

The earring scene was really cute. I do think that Nakano does care for Miyako, but is just doing so in a really... unconventional...way....we'll see what's going on as we get more chapters

Chikaon
Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

I know this trope is used excessively in fiction, but I've yet to actually witness this in real life. Those guys would be verbally torn a few new ones if they tried that where I live. Is this really a thing anyone here has seen or experienced?

Definitely happens. This is a pretty good vid of a few incidences caught on camera https://youtu.be/8sM1mpS36K4. First 3 are in Japan. You can read the comments section for even more experiences from other people.

I remember when I visited Japan for vacation and even in the few days I was there I saw women (they were often alone) being harassed by men. It was a busy area that was full of promoters, but it's hard to tell if it was a worker or not though since they wore regular clothes. Either way looked like a pushy guy trying to talk with a girl who was clearly uncomfortable and just politely smiling/laughing to get away.

I haven't had it done personally to me in a long time since I'm pretty much a hermit nowadays, but man I remember a time few years ago when I was just getting off work as an emt (I was still in uniform) and was randomly hit on by a guy as I was walking to my car at 2am.

Common tropes are common for a reason.

last edited at Oct 9, 2022 9:40AM

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

Aw Narita is a good friend.

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

Whoopsie, back to nicknames already?

The biggest wtf that stood out to me is how in the hell is that tow truck driver gonna run someone over who was just standing next to the car he was called there for. She was standing so close to the car that if he hit her, he woulda hit the damn car too lmao

Like damn....we were about to get another isekai story

Song stood way out in the road, still, a tow driver should expect people to be there and not run them over.

But the thing is she doesn't look like she stood way out in the road. She's literally just standing next to Pei Yu by the car here. Could just be bad perspective drawing by the artist but yeah just made me wtf lol

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

The biggest wtf that stood out to me is how in the hell is that tow truck driver gonna run someone over who was just standing next to the car he was called there for. She was standing so close to the car that if he hit her, he woulda hit the damn car too lmao

Like damn....we were about to get another isekai story

last edited at Oct 8, 2022 10:58PM

Chikaon
SHY discussion 06 Oct 18:58
Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

It's been a long while since I caught up with this series, but now I'm like should I just wait for the anime? Hmmmm decisions decisions.....

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

Jing Xiu is being a little bit disingenuous in claiming she's just pointing out the contestants' strengths and weaknesses, she's been 100% critical with zero praise so far lol.

Haha I guess her praise is in her final score since she actually does score the contestants similarly to the "nice" judges. But yeah knowing how editing goes, they easily can give her an "evil edit" with how harsh her critique has been.

Chikaon
Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

Man talk about not reading the room...

Though I have to laugh at "maybe she wants to keep it platonic for now" even after that beautiful kiss scene in the previous chapter xD

last edited at Oct 5, 2022 8:44PM

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

Ah yes Makino's scummy-ness on full display this chapter

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

really generic start, but we'll see with more chapters. wished there was more of a hook for the end of the chapter....but i do wanna read the next chapter to see what this series really is about so i guess it did it's job lol

Chikaon
Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

https://twitter.com/_akiyamaharu/status/1574969638495977472?t=G4j_UMXHLJwCq4eMGSnjMw&s=19

Ah damn, Akiyama Haru just tweeted that this is gonna end with 2 volumes total so probably only 3 chapters left. Hopefully she can wrap everything up for an okay ending, but I don't really see how she could write one I'd be satisfied with since there seemed to be so much more to explore. It's a shame because the main story literally just started. I'm so sad right now

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

Lmfao everything is so ridiculous I'm looking forward to more. We must protect precious cinnamon roll Spica

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

I wish we had a YURIQLO here

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

Nice we got some wingwomen now

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

I'll still respond to Blastaar's comment though even if it doesn't apply to this series anymore. I think it's healthy to have everything in the open and to be honest with each other about everything that's happened pre-relationship and after. It accomplishes trust and lets both parties know what they're getting into and what to expect from the person they are dating. Because I completely forgot Sora did already reveal she had ulterior motives, it felt off to me since I thought one side apologized and acknowledged their side of the problems, but the other didn't. So this whole time I thought one side was being unfairly rewarded.

I still think this is much ado about nothing, both in this series and in others. This shibboleth of relationships being tainted by “ulterior motives” seems to be based on a highly abstract notion of “healthiness”—so what exactly counts as an “ulterior” motive? People enter into relationships (not just romantic, but also friendships, acquaintances, etc.) for all sorts of motives, and those motives habitually change as the people get to know each other.

One of the commonest tropes in yuri manga is that two people initially get together for reasons that change substantially as their relationship develops. Sure, if Ayaka had continued to be with Sora only because she was being blackmailed, that would be a problem. But that’s not at all what happens here, and while that apology may make you feel better about the story’s “healthiness,” I don’t see how would it affect their ongoing relationship if the apology had never happened at all.

Well I was talking about ulterior motives in relation to this story. Of course everyone has various degrees of "motives" for beginning any type of relationship, but in the case of THIS story, Sora's motive was to get UNCONSENSUAL physical and emotional attention from a crush Sora has been admiring for years from afar and said crush never even knew Sora existed until the blackmail situation.

I think that's a pretty huge fucking problem and red flag irl if it was never addressed and swept under the rug. I use "irl" because how their relationship has been handled is very realistic so it doesn't have the excuse of "it's just a manga"

Like without the apology or at least the other party finding out that "she used this fucked up situation to get closer to me", it just becomes another romanticized "I fell in love with my manipulator" type story. Because remember it wasn't just a simple "Hey I only pretended to need help with my studies as an excuse to spend time with you" type of motive, but straight up blackmail for physical/emotional "requests". Since everything after they had the talk was done so well and were correct ways of handling a relationship, missing this one thing was a glaring error in my brain. It felt they talked about and solved literally every problem except the biggest issue that began the series, that was then ignored and forgotten about. If written like this, it mixes in the message that Sora's behavior is ok since the relationship turned out fine in the end.

I had actually put "I personally prefer if everything was in the open and have everyone be honest with each other" in my previous post, but took out the "personally" because I thought this wasn't even an opinion, but a fact that open communication is great for a healthy relationship. Even if they are being open and honest about everything AFTER they get together, the pre-relationship is still a big part of a relationship and does affect things down the line since it directly involved both of them.

I think it's incorrect to say their relationship wouldnt change if Sora never apologized. For example if Sora never mentioned anything, but Ayaka found out eventually through other means, I think this would change the relationship dynamic. This is a major flaw that she discovered in the person she is dating. How she decides to then proceed with their relationship is up to her. Even if she just brushes it off like she did in the story, it at least gives her the power to decide what to do.

Would they still have the same ongoing relationship if Sora never revealed she had always wanted to be closer to Ayaka? Sure maybe, ignorance is bliss after all, but I wouldn't feel good about it as a reader who knows the whole story because Sora will just feel like a manipulator that got what she wanted and I'd have to deal with everyone praising that their relationship is cute and wholesome. (Which is how I felt and I guess is the whole reason I had that rant in the first place until I was reminded they already talked it out. Didn't realize this fact until I wrote out everything just now lol)

Anyway I should prob do a reread of this series now since I've been reading it wrong for the past 2 years

last edited at Sep 23, 2022 9:50PM

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

Blastaar said :

They're honest now that they're in a relationship. What would be accomplished by going back and "confessing" that they once had "ulterior motives"?

What's being rewarded is not the "messed up behavior" but the fact that they're confronting and dealing with their feelings as they developed.

I've been thinking for a while now that the Blackmail tag really only applies to the first couple volumes. Even if they're not "together" by the end of chapter 10, they've certainly moved beyond using each other dishonestly.

Ok see yeah I did completely forget about this scene since it was so long ago so thanks for reminding me.

I'll still respond to Blastaar's comment though even if it doesn't apply to this series anymore. I think it's healthy to have everything in the open and to be honest with each other about everything that's happened pre-relationship and after. It accomplishes trust and lets both parties know what they're getting into and what to expect from the person they are dating. Because I completely forgot Sora did already reveal she had ulterior motives, it felt off to me since I thought one side apologized and acknowledged their side of the problems, but the other didn't. So this whole time I thought one side was being unfairly rewarded.

Going back to reread that part in chapter 10, I think the reason why I forgot about this scene and why Ayaka's part stood out more in my subconsciousness was because Ayaka was really clear about how she worded her apology (plus most of the story is from her POV) versus Sora did acknowledge she wanted to be closer to Ayaka since middle school, but didn't outright say she had a crush. Then it all got overshadowed by the LETS BE FRIENDS!! ending lol.

last edited at Sep 23, 2022 3:28PM

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

Everything in this series lately has been really cute and wholesome but I still can't help but feel off about it. I actually prefer the beginning part since I thought it was more interesting than just pure fluff and messed up relationships are always fun, but I really don't like how everything messed up before is forgotten just cuz MC fell in love.

I really wished they addressed the blackmail thing and how Sora did have ulterior motives from the get go since she had a crush on Ayaka before they "properly" met. All those plot lines were kinda just brushed under the rug so I wished they sat down and had a proper convo about it with each other. Honesty and all that ya know. Without addressing the plot of the first half, it just romanticizes and rewards messed up behavior without acknowledging it was messed up.

Well the series is still ongoing so maybe they'll throw in a casual mention of it eventually (or they already did do that in a previous chapter and I forgot)

I also wanted to add, since there's some comparisons to the 100 days manga, I think I actually hold Lonely Girl to a stricter moral code than 100 Days. The 2nd fluffy half has all been about how to have a proper, healthy relationship, so it is actually more important for this series to have conversations about the blackmailing and ulterior motives. 100 Days I've accepted is pretty much ridiculous porn so I'm able to turn my brain off and not think too hard about it, although that series does have it's own set of issues.....

Edit: so i was reminded they already had a small talk a while back and i did forget, whoops ^^;;

last edited at Sep 23, 2022 2:29PM