It kinda annoys me that if you showed this image to people, they would assume that the girls are on friendly terms because it's not enough "proof" to suggest anything romantic, but if one of the characters in the image were male, they would immediately assume them to be romantically involved. Whenever it's two individuals of the same gnder, so much more effort is made to comfirm or refute or demonstrate (if not platonic) the nature of their relationship, meanwhile a guy and a girl are immediately shipped together (because friendship is too complicated right people just can't keep their pants on).
Heteronormativity -_-
Faust
Jun 15, 2015 3:03PM
Sorry I'm still frustrated with Hibike Euphonium
ikase
Jun 15, 2015 3:48PM
^ I hear ya. We just gotta hang on till the very end
Omega Deuse
Jun 15, 2015 6:08PM
To be fair, with nothing else to go on, the odds suggest a hetero pairing is more likely to be romantic/sexual while a same sex pairing is more likely to be platonic (because the majority of people are heterosexual and, I suspect, people are more likely to have friends who are the same gender) and this will inform a viewer's assumptions. As such, an artist must go to extra lengths to overcome the base odds.
kickap00
Jun 15, 2015 7:55PM
I hear ya Faust, reminds me of Yurikuma Arashi
so I ask you again, is your love the real thing?
MaggsWithBaggs
Jun 16, 2015 12:39AM
^ Actually, the exact opposite happened to me and a friend of mine. She would come up at random times and hug me from behind, and when we'd mention each other's names, or asked where either of us were, people always asked if we were dating. WE EVEN HAD A SHIP NAME. People would always call me by the ship name instead of my real name. Even if we were standing close to each other, people were all like: Oh yeah, so hot, just fuck each other, oh wait, you guys already do. Jfc, couldn't even get a guy that year.
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ColonalCat
Jun 18, 2015 12:07AM
Funny that Faust's comment was done in cruel irony, but that point is true regardless.
There's a 'Philosophical' question that pisses me way the fuck off to eternity and back: "Can a man and woman be friends?" Like, the concept of gay is not new, people. The word "lesbian" itself comes from an island that way so full of 'em you were persecuted for not being one; an island the Greeks visited quite often. And if in that context the answer is "no", then there is no such thing as friends. I mean if you legitimately think that, then that question holds value, but it's going about asking it in such a convoluted and hashed-up way.
Nezchan
Jun 18, 2015 10:14AM
The word "lesbian" itself comes from an island that way so full of 'em you were persecuted for not being one; an island the Greeks visited quite often.
Wait, what? Where on earth did you hear that from? To the best of my knowledge, all we know for certain of the island of Lesbos, which is where the word lesbian comes from, is a few scraps of Sappho's poetry about the daily lives of girls who were left in her care to be educated. Some of that was love poetry directed at some of the girls, but nothing about it being a lesbian-only culture that had any power to persecute anyone. If anything, the suggestion is that it was more like an artist's retreat. Are you confusing it with the (highly apocryphal) stories of Amazon women killing male babies or something? I certainly can't find anything, reliable or not, which suggests that sort of thing happening on Lesbos in any case.
ColonalCat
Jun 18, 2015 6:22PM
^ I rushed the sentence and forgot nonverbals aren't a thing in text posts. No, you weren't persecuted for not being a lesbian. I was being facetious.
OJX
Aug 7, 2015 12:12PM
@Faust I understand your pain...
The left girl's expression reminds me of Mei from Citrus.. But I really <3 this, it hits me home.. Haruzo's art is great (Y)
Faust Jun 15, 2015 3:03PM
It kinda annoys me that if you showed this image to people, they would assume that the girls are on friendly terms because it's not enough "proof" to suggest anything romantic, but if one of the characters in the image were male, they would immediately assume them to be romantically involved. Whenever it's two individuals of the same gnder, so much more effort is made to comfirm or refute or demonstrate (if not platonic) the nature of their relationship, meanwhile a guy and a girl are immediately shipped together (because friendship is too complicated right people just can't keep their pants on).
Heteronormativity -_-
Faust Jun 15, 2015 3:03PM
Sorry I'm still frustrated with Hibike Euphonium
ikase Jun 15, 2015 3:48PM
^ I hear ya. We just gotta hang on till the very end
Omega Deuse Jun 15, 2015 6:08PM
To be fair, with nothing else to go on, the odds suggest a hetero pairing is more likely to be romantic/sexual while a same sex pairing is more likely to be platonic (because the majority of people are heterosexual and, I suspect, people are more likely to have friends who are the same gender) and this will inform a viewer's assumptions. As such, an artist must go to extra lengths to overcome the base odds.
kickap00 Jun 15, 2015 7:55PM
I hear ya Faust, reminds me of Yurikuma Arashi
so I ask you again, is your love the real thing?
MaggsWithBaggs Jun 16, 2015 12:39AM
^ Actually, the exact opposite happened to me and a friend of mine. She would come up at random times and hug me from behind, and when we'd mention each other's names, or asked where either of us were, people always asked if we were dating. WE EVEN HAD A SHIP NAME. People would always call me by the ship name instead of my real name. Even if we were standing close to each other, people were all like: Oh yeah, so hot, just fuck each other, oh wait, you guys already do. Jfc, couldn't even get a guy that year.
last edited at Jun 16, 2015 12:39AM
ColonalCat Jun 18, 2015 12:07AM
Funny that Faust's comment was done in cruel irony, but that point is true regardless.
There's a 'Philosophical' question that pisses me way the fuck off to eternity and back: "Can a man and woman be friends?" Like, the concept of gay is not new, people. The word "lesbian" itself comes from an island that way so full of 'em you were persecuted for not being one; an island the Greeks visited quite often. And if in that context the answer is "no", then there is no such thing as friends. I mean if you legitimately think that, then that question holds value, but it's going about asking it in such a convoluted and hashed-up way.
Nezchan Jun 18, 2015 10:14AM
Wait, what? Where on earth did you hear that from? To the best of my knowledge, all we know for certain of the island of Lesbos, which is where the word lesbian comes from, is a few scraps of Sappho's poetry about the daily lives of girls who were left in her care to be educated. Some of that was love poetry directed at some of the girls, but nothing about it being a lesbian-only culture that had any power to persecute anyone. If anything, the suggestion is that it was more like an artist's retreat. Are you confusing it with the (highly apocryphal) stories of Amazon women killing male babies or something? I certainly can't find anything, reliable or not, which suggests that sort of thing happening on Lesbos in any case.
ColonalCat Jun 18, 2015 6:22PM
^ I rushed the sentence and forgot nonverbals aren't a thing in text posts. No, you weren't persecuted for not being a lesbian. I was being facetious.
OJX Aug 7, 2015 12:12PM
@Faust I understand your pain...
The left girl's expression reminds me of Mei from Citrus.. But I really <3 this, it hits me home.. Haruzo's art is great (Y)